Discussion:
Tesco limit sale of Ibuprofen.
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Michael Chare
2006-01-12 19:41:11 UTC
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A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.

I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!

Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
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Michael Chare
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-12 19:47:30 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
I'm aware that there is a limit on the number of paracetamol tablets that
can be sold at one time, but I was not aware that it applied to ibuprofen
(and don't believe that it does).. I buy a generic ibuprofen (called
Cuprofen) from a local chemist. It is sold in various size packs including
bottles containing 96 tablets. On one occasion I went in and asked for three
such bottles. I wanted one for the house, one for the caravan, and one for
my father. The pharmacist did question me about my 'order' but after
satisfying himself that I wasn't about to do myself in, he sold me the three
bottles without quibble.

Kev
Michael Chare
2006-01-12 20:05:16 UTC
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Post by Uno Hoo!
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
I'm aware that there is a limit on the number of paracetamol tablets that
can be sold at one time, but I was not aware that it applied to ibuprofen
(and don't believe that it does).. I buy a generic ibuprofen (called
Cuprofen) from a local chemist.
Each Tesco packed of Ibuprofen contains 16 tablets and costs 35p. I just wanted
to buy 3 packets containing a total of 48 200mg tablets.

I will check out the Cuprofen, at my local chemists.

Frankly I think that imposing limits like this which can be so easily avoided is
silly, it just creates inconvenience.

Nembutal is what you want if your want to end your life. There is some state in
the US where you can get it quite legally without a prescription.
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Michael Chare
Peter Johnson
2006-01-13 16:32:31 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:05:16 -0000, "Michael Chare"
Post by Michael Chare
Frankly I think that imposing limits like this which can be so easily avoided is
silly, it just creates inconvenience.
They do reserve the right to limit quantities purchased, there's a
sign near the entrance in my local store, but that's usually to stop
bulk purcheses of special offers.
Derek ^
2006-01-12 21:13:20 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:47:30 -0000, "Uno Hoo!"
Post by Uno Hoo!
I'm aware that there is a limit on the number of paracetamol tablets that
can be sold at one time, but I was not aware that it applied to ibuprofen
(and don't believe that it does).. I buy a generic ibuprofen (called
Cuprofen) from a local chemist. It is sold in various size packs including
bottles containing 96 tablets. On one occasion I went in and asked for three
such bottles. I wanted one for the house, one for the caravan, and one for
my father. The pharmacist did question me about my 'order' but after
satisfying himself that I wasn't about to do myself in, he sold me the three
bottles without quibble.
Once visiting London with my wife + daughter + her schoolfriend, the
schoolfriend took sick with severe headache. Not knowing what might be
most effective I took 3 different formulations from the shelves at
Tesco Express at 10-00pm. The checkout assistant flatly refused to
sell us them until we had re-arranged ourselves in the queue to put
them through as 2 transactions.

Nowadays I buy them in the Walgreens in the USA on business trips. A
tub of 1,000 Ibuprofens is USD 16,

(worth about 80 quid in rip - off UK).

Aspirins USD 3.00 for 500. Buy one -get one free !

The same goes for topical steroid skin creams. A 2oz tube in Walgreens
for USD 6.50, in UK a tiny 1/2 oz tube for GBP 4.50 *and * have to
tell the pimply 16 year old where you are going to apply it. As if
people are going to tell the truth for all the world to hear in the
Pharmacy in middle of the TESCO's - IE It's for the crack in my arse!

What a load of cobblers.

Rip - off UK. You can say that again!

DG
Dave
2006-01-12 22:02:59 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:13:20 +0000, Derek ^
Post by Derek ^
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:47:30 -0000, "Uno Hoo!"
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Post by Derek ^
Nowadays I buy them in the Walgreens in the USA on business trips. A
tub of 1,000 Ibuprofens is USD 16,
(worth about 80 quid in rip - off UK).
Aspirins USD 3.00 for 500. Buy one -get one free !
The same goes for topical steroid skin creams. A 2oz tube in Walgreens
for USD 6.50, in UK a tiny 1/2 oz tube for GBP 4.50 *and * have to
tell the pimply 16 year old where you are going to apply it. As if
people are going to tell the truth for all the world to hear in the
Pharmacy in middle of the TESCO's - IE It's for the crack in my arse!
What a load of cobblers.
Rip - off UK. You can say that again!
DG
Saw an advert on U.S. tv last week for a KFC type place, 18 pieces of
chicken for $8.99 which is about £5.20!

Girlfriend bought 750 Ibuprofen for about $7.83, then another 500 for
about $4, then another 500 pain relievers for about $3 (jeeez that's a
lot of headaches!) I always stock up on gillette mach3 blades aswell.

Bastard rip-off UK

Dave
Mr X
2006-01-13 07:56:02 UTC
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Post by Dave
I always stock up on gillette mach3 blades aswell.
I use those. How much do you pay in $?
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Mr X
Dave
2006-01-13 18:14:10 UTC
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Post by Mr X
Post by Dave
I always stock up on gillette mach3 blades aswell.
I use those. How much do you pay in $?
$20 for a pack of 12

Dave
Mr X
2006-01-14 12:15:01 UTC
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Post by Dave
Post by Mr X
Post by Dave
I always stock up on gillette mach3 blades aswell.
I use those. How much do you pay in $?
$20 for a pack of 12
Thanks!
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Mr X
Mike
2006-01-14 17:11:27 UTC
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Post by Dave
Post by Mr X
Post by Dave
I always stock up on gillette mach3 blades aswell.
I use those. How much do you pay in $?
$20 for a pack of 12
Bloody Hell! I stopped buying razor blades when the rip-off merchants
put the price up to a farthing each!
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Mike
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-14 18:39:20 UTC
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Post by Dave
Post by Mr X
Post by Dave
I always stock up on gillette mach3 blades aswell.
I use those. How much do you pay in $?
$20 for a pack of 12
Bloody Hell! I stopped buying razor blades when the rip-off merchants put
the price up to a farthing each!
I agree! A good Braun electric may cost £70 - but then gives (virtually)
free shaves for many years! (And without the additional cost of foam/gel!!)

Kev
Mr X
2006-01-17 15:33:02 UTC
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Post by Mike
Bloody Hell! I stopped buying razor blades when the rip-off merchants
put the price up to a farthing each!
So what do you use, then? Or do you have a beard?
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Mr X
Mike
2006-01-17 16:41:07 UTC
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Post by Mr X
Post by Mike
Bloody Hell! I stopped buying razor blades when the rip-off merchants
put the price up to a farthing each!
So what do you use, then? Or do you have a beard?
A "full set". Why waste money hacking off bits of your body if
they're just going to grow back? ;)
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Mike
Mike Ross
2006-01-13 00:01:26 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:13:20 +0000, Derek ^
<***@miniac.demon.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>
Post by Derek ^
Nowadays I buy them in the Walgreens in the USA on business trips. A
tub of 1,000 Ibuprofens is USD 16,
(worth about 80 quid in rip - off UK).
Aspirins USD 3.00 for 500. Buy one -get one free !
The same goes for topical steroid skin creams. A 2oz tube in Walgreens
for USD 6.50, in UK a tiny 1/2 oz tube for GBP 4.50 *and * have to
tell the pimply 16 year old where you are going to apply it. As if
people are going to tell the truth for all the world to hear in the
Pharmacy in middle of the TESCO's - IE It's for the crack in my arse!
What a load of cobblers.
Rip - off UK. You can say that again!
True.

On the other hand, every time I fly back to the UK (I live in USA now)
I stock up on Sominex (cuz the US formulation is crap compared to the
Brit one), and codeine (which is isn't available at all in the USA -
without a prescription anyway). Get some suspicion when buying large
quantities of codeine, but when I explain and show my US green card
the pharmacist tends to nod understanding - I'm evidently far from
alone in doing this!

Mike
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'As I walk along these shores
I am the history within'
Mr X
2006-01-13 07:56:03 UTC
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Post by Mike Ross
I stock up on Sominex
What is that for, Mike? Insomnia?
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Mr X
Mike Ross
2006-01-13 12:14:02 UTC
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Post by Mr X
Post by Mike Ross
I stock up on Sominex
What is that for, Mike? Insomnia?
Yes... with two kids at baby/toddler stage, wife sometimes finds it
useful!

Mike
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http://www.corestore.org
'As I walk along these shores
I am the history within'
Xmas
2006-01-13 16:28:32 UTC
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Post by Mike Ross
On the other hand, every time I fly back to the UK (I live in USA now)
I stock up on Sominex (cuz the US formulation is crap compared to the
Brit one), and codeine (which is isn't available at all in the USA -
without a prescription anyway).
FYI Mike, I think that diphenhydramine (the active ingredient in Nytol)
is still sold OTC in the States as an antihistamine. Benadryl if I
remember correctly. 50mg of that knocks me out like a treat, though it
does leave me feeling a bit groggy the next day. Worth trying if your
Sominex stocks run out!

xmas
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-13 10:44:45 UTC
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Post by Derek ^
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:47:30 -0000, "Uno Hoo!"
Post by Uno Hoo!
I'm aware that there is a limit on the number of paracetamol tablets that
can be sold at one time, but I was not aware that it applied to ibuprofen
(and don't believe that it does).. I buy a generic ibuprofen (called
Cuprofen) from a local chemist. It is sold in various size packs including
bottles containing 96 tablets. On one occasion I went in and asked for three
such bottles. I wanted one for the house, one for the caravan, and one for
my father. The pharmacist did question me about my 'order' but after
satisfying himself that I wasn't about to do myself in, he sold me the three
bottles without quibble.
Once visiting London with my wife + daughter + her schoolfriend, the
schoolfriend took sick with severe headache. Not knowing what might be
most effective I took 3 different formulations from the shelves at
Tesco Express at 10-00pm. The checkout assistant flatly refused to
sell us them until we had re-arranged ourselves in the queue to put
them through as 2 transactions.
Nowadays I buy them in the Walgreens in the USA on business trips. A
tub of 1,000 Ibuprofens is USD 16,
(worth about 80 quid in rip - off UK).
Aspirins USD 3.00 for 500. Buy one -get one free !
The same goes for topical steroid skin creams. A 2oz tube in Walgreens
for USD 6.50, in UK a tiny 1/2 oz tube for GBP 4.50 *and * have to
tell the pimply 16 year old where you are going to apply it. As if
people are going to tell the truth for all the world to hear in the
Pharmacy in middle of the TESCO's - IE It's for the crack in my arse!
What a load of cobblers.
Rip - off UK. You can say that again!
True - but a lot of people are stupid enough to allow themselves to be
ripped off. I buy bottles of 96 Cuprofen for £3.99. Nurofen, the 'branded'
ibuprofen, costs about four times as much. More people buy branded drugs
than generics however - despite the fact that the ingredients are identical!

Kev
Peter McLelland
2006-01-13 11:11:50 UTC
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Post by Uno Hoo!
Post by Derek ^
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:47:30 -0000, "Uno Hoo!"
Post by Uno Hoo!
I'm aware that there is a limit on the number of paracetamol tablets that
can be sold at one time, but I was not aware that it applied to ibuprofen
(and don't believe that it does).. I buy a generic ibuprofen (called
Cuprofen) from a local chemist. It is sold in various size packs including
bottles containing 96 tablets. On one occasion I went in and asked for three
such bottles. I wanted one for the house, one for the caravan, and one for
my father. The pharmacist did question me about my 'order' but after
satisfying himself that I wasn't about to do myself in, he sold me the three
bottles without quibble.
Once visiting London with my wife + daughter + her schoolfriend, the
schoolfriend took sick with severe headache. Not knowing what might be
most effective I took 3 different formulations from the shelves at
Tesco Express at 10-00pm. The checkout assistant flatly refused to
sell us them until we had re-arranged ourselves in the queue to put
them through as 2 transactions.
Nowadays I buy them in the Walgreens in the USA on business trips. A
tub of 1,000 Ibuprofens is USD 16,
(worth about 80 quid in rip - off UK).
Aspirins USD 3.00 for 500. Buy one -get one free !
The same goes for topical steroid skin creams. A 2oz tube in Walgreens
for USD 6.50, in UK a tiny 1/2 oz tube for GBP 4.50 *and * have to
tell the pimply 16 year old where you are going to apply it. As if
people are going to tell the truth for all the world to hear in the
Pharmacy in middle of the TESCO's - IE It's for the crack in my arse!
What a load of cobblers.
Rip - off UK. You can say that again!
True - but a lot of people are stupid enough to allow themselves to be
ripped off. I buy bottles of 96 Cuprofen for £3.99. Nurofen, the 'branded'
ibuprofen, costs about four times as much. More people buy branded drugs
than generics however - despite the fact that the ingredients are identical!
To be fair ( I know why should I) in the US you will find that brand name
drugs such as Nurofen get far more shelf space than the store generic
despite the fact they cost twice as much. If you really want a shock try
buying aspirin in Germany where it is still a patent protected drug, that
actually makes the branded versions in the UK look remarkably cheap.

As to cost differences in the US the differences seem to be falling, and
whilst we still lose out where suppliers use lower costs from the Far East
to boost margins where US organisations use lower pricing to boost sales,
some of the difference is simply down to the much lower costs of doing
business in the US.

Peter
Cheeky
2006-01-15 09:37:31 UTC
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:11:50 -0000, "Peter McLelland"
Post by Peter McLelland
To be fair ( I know why should I) in the US you will find that brand name
drugs such as Nurofen get far more shelf space than the store generic
despite the fact they cost twice as much. If you really want a shock try
buying aspirin in Germany where it is still a patent protected drug, that
actually makes the branded versions in the UK look remarkably cheap.
Also bear in mind that ibuprofen in the US is weaker than in the UK -
maximum of 200mg/tab compared to the 400mg/tab you can get here. Had
to take over a couple of tubs to a relative last time I went over.
Dontcha
2006-01-16 11:26:11 UTC
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Post by Cheeky
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:11:50 -0000, "Peter McLelland"
Post by Peter McLelland
To be fair ( I know why should I) in the US you will find that brand name
drugs such as Nurofen get far more shelf space than the store generic
despite the fact they cost twice as much. If you really want a shock try
buying aspirin in Germany where it is still a patent protected drug, that
actually makes the branded versions in the UK look remarkably cheap.
Also bear in mind that ibuprofen in the US is weaker than in the UK -
maximum of 200mg/tab compared to the 400mg/tab you can get here. Had
to take over a couple of tubs to a relative last time I went over.
Couldn't they just have taken 2 at a time? ;o)
Ian Stirling
2006-01-12 19:45:37 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Because they want chronic mild pain sufferers to come in every couple of
days of course.
Malcolm Stewart
2006-01-12 19:50:45 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Michael Chare
It's to stop you topping yourself.
There are similar restrictions on other products. When I said to the
pharmacist that they couldn't stop me going elsewhere, she shrugged her
shoulders. I think it also explains why so many drugs are now supplied in
blister packs (remember the small brown bottles of a few decades ago?) -
anything to give you time to reconsider your decision.
--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm
Just Another Legal Fan
2006-01-13 18:22:11 UTC
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Post by Malcolm Stewart
It's to stop you topping yourself.
There are similar restrictions on other products.
A depressed person previously could go into a chemist and buy 100
Paracetamol and drop the lot as soon as they got outside the shop.
Often people do not realise just how dangerous Paracetamol is. It can
seldom be fully flushed from a system and damage is almost certain
after an overdose. It strips human organs and is a very nasty way to go
that the depressed person simply did not know would happen.

By restricting the amount allowed to be sold in one go this gives the
depressed person valuable time to think again or seek help as they have
to go from shop to shop to get enough to do themselves damage.

It's not ideal but it helps.

Dave
"nightjar" .uk.com>
2006-01-12 20:10:39 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Legislation (I think due to an EU Directive) sets a maximum number of pain
killers that may be sold in one transaction without the supervision of a
qualified pharmacist. I suspect Tesco may even have breached those rules by
selling you two packets.

Ibuprofen has been linked to an increase in heart disease for those at risk.
It also should not be taken with aspirin, nor should it be taken for
prolonged periods. A pharmacist would know this, would ask relevant
questions and would give advice suitable to the patient. A checkout operator
in Tescos would not.

Colin Bignell
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-12 20:22:28 UTC
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Post by "nightjar" .uk.com>
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Legislation (I think due to an EU Directive) sets a maximum number of pain
killers that may be sold in one transaction without the supervision of a
qualified pharmacist. I suspect Tesco may even have breached those rules
by selling you two packets.
Ibuprofen has been linked to an increase in heart disease for those at
risk. It also should not be taken with aspirin, nor should it be taken for
prolonged periods. A pharmacist would know this, would ask relevant
questions and would give advice suitable to the patient. A checkout
operator in Tescos would not.
The only painkillers affected by the legislation are paracetamol and
salicylates (aspirin). There is no legislative restriction on the sale of
ibuprofen.

Kev
The Electric Fan Club
2006-01-13 08:59:46 UTC
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Post by Uno Hoo!
The only painkillers affected by the legislation are paracetamol and
salicylates (aspirin). There is no legislative restriction on the sale of
ibuprofen.
Do you have a reference for that? Ibuprofen has only relatively recently
been descheduled as available from a pharmacist only.

I know of no supermarket that will allow the sale of Ibuprofen in quantities
greater than 32, and even my local Boots still refers the sale of larger
quantities to the pharmacist.
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-13 10:38:43 UTC
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Post by The Electric Fan Club
Post by Uno Hoo!
The only painkillers affected by the legislation are paracetamol and
salicylates (aspirin). There is no legislative restriction on the sale of
ibuprofen.
Do you have a reference for that? Ibuprofen has only relatively recently
been descheduled as available from a pharmacist only.
I know of no supermarket that will allow the sale of Ibuprofen in
quantities greater than 32, and even my local Boots still refers the sale
of larger quantities to the pharmacist.
I regularly buy bottles of Cuprofen (which is a generic ibuprofen)
containing 96 tablets! They are on sale at P Williams chemists. Certainly,
when I buy those bottles, the sales assistant will hold the bottle up so the
pharmacist can see what she is selling - but he just gives the nod and into
the bag it goes!

Kev
Peter McLelland
2006-01-13 11:03:37 UTC
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Post by Uno Hoo!
Post by The Electric Fan Club
Post by Uno Hoo!
The only painkillers affected by the legislation are paracetamol and
salicylates (aspirin). There is no legislative restriction on the sale of
ibuprofen.
Do you have a reference for that? Ibuprofen has only relatively recently
been descheduled as available from a pharmacist only.
I know of no supermarket that will allow the sale of Ibuprofen in
quantities greater than 32, and even my local Boots still refers the sale
of larger quantities to the pharmacist.
I regularly buy bottles of Cuprofen (which is a generic ibuprofen)
containing 96 tablets! They are on sale at P Williams chemists. Certainly,
when I buy those bottles, the sales assistant will hold the bottle up so the
pharmacist can see what she is selling - but he just gives the nod and into
the bag it goes!
Exactly a pharmacist controlled sale. I can do the same in any chemist when
a pharmacist is on duty, but there is no pharmacist on duty in Tesco hence
the limit.

Peter
Mr X
2006-01-13 12:36:01 UTC
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Post by Peter McLelland
but there is no pharmacist on duty in Tesco hence
the limit.
Maybe not in your local Tesco's but many Tesco's have in-house
pharmacists
--
Mr X
David Hearn
2006-01-16 20:45:13 UTC
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Post by Mr X
Post by Peter McLelland
but there is no pharmacist on duty in Tesco hence
the limit.
Maybe not in your local Tesco's but many Tesco's have in-house
pharmacists
And you can buy more then 32 over the counter via the pharmacist's
counter in Tesco (and paid for there and then). In fact, behind the
counter, the boxes are in 32's, rather than the 16's on the normal shelving.

D
PeteM
2006-01-12 21:12:09 UTC
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Post by "nightjar" .uk.com>
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Legislation (I think due to an EU Directive) sets a maximum number of pain
killers that may be sold in one transaction without the supervision of a
Nothing to do with EU, it's a DoH regulation.
--
PeteM
AlanG
2006-01-12 20:22:39 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0000, "Michael Chare"
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
The law stops them selling painkillers in quantities of more than 32
to any one customer at any one time. Introduced by Alan Milburn. One
unintended consequence was pharmacists were barred from selling packs
of 100 quarter strength aspirin to heart disease sufferers. The man is
a complete fuckwit.

Each time you go into a supermarket buy a couple of boxes of
paracetamol or aspirin. Only 16 to 20 pence. very soon you will have a
couple of hundred doses and the chemists and tescos can FOAD.
Michael Chare
2006-01-12 20:35:31 UTC
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Post by AlanG
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0000, "Michael Chare"
The law stops them selling painkillers in quantities of more than 32
to any one customer at any one time. Introduced by Alan Milburn. One
unintended consequence was pharmacists were barred from selling packs
of 100 quarter strength aspirin to heart disease sufferers. The man is
a complete fuckwit.
Clearly! There are an increasing number of stupid laws which just make life
awkward for the normal person.
--
Michael Chare
Mike
2006-01-12 21:48:37 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:35:31 -0000, "Michael Chare"
Post by Michael Chare
Post by AlanG
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0000, "Michael Chare"
The law stops them selling painkillers in quantities of more than 32
to any one customer at any one time. Introduced by Alan Milburn. One
unintended consequence was pharmacists were barred from selling packs
of 100 quarter strength aspirin to heart disease sufferers. The man is
a complete fuckwit.
Clearly! There are an increasing number of stupid laws which just make life
awkward for the normal person.
I just buy bottles of 1000 when I visit New York. There are no namby
pamby limits there.

Mike.
--
Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem
David Hearn
2006-01-16 20:48:58 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
Post by AlanG
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0000, "Michael Chare"
The law stops them selling painkillers in quantities of more than 32
to any one customer at any one time. Introduced by Alan Milburn. One
unintended consequence was pharmacists were barred from selling packs
of 100 quarter strength aspirin to heart disease sufferers. The man is
a complete fuckwit.
Clearly! There are an increasing number of stupid laws which just make life
awkward for the normal person.
How long does it normally take you to get through 32 paracetomol then?
Most drugs say that after 3-4 days of taking the drugs you should see a
doctor.

And if it saves one life, was it worth the occasional inconvenience?

Don't forget - if there's a pharmacist there, you can buy more than 32.

D
PeteM
2006-01-12 21:24:04 UTC
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Post by AlanG
The law stops them selling painkillers in quantities of more than 32
to any one customer at any one time. Introduced by Alan Milburn. One
unintended consequence was pharmacists were barred from selling packs
of 100 quarter strength aspirin to heart disease sufferers. The man is
a complete fuckwit.
Each time you go into a supermarket buy a couple of boxes of
paracetamol or aspirin. Only 16 to 20 pence. very soon you will have a
couple of hundred doses and the chemists and tescos can FOAD.
Oddly enough this behaviour is exactly what the legislation was designed
to prevent.

It's not that the legislators hoped to stop suicidal people buying the
stuff and going home to take it. They know they can't stop that. What
they *do* hope to avoid is ordinary non-suicidal people (especially
parents of teenagers) stockpiling the stuff at home.

The theory - and there is actually evidence to support it - is that many
self-poisoning suicides happen like this. Somebody is sitting at home
depressed and thinking of suicide. She goes to the bathroom cabinet. If
she finds it full of paracetamol, she takes the lot and tops herself.
But if there's only one or two packets in there, she just takes that.
After a few minutes she feels so much better that she decides not to
kill herself after all.

It sounds silly, but this really is the way it works much of the time.

The crazy thing is that the legislation actually *encourages*
stockpiling. I myself do exactly what Alan does. I have a large family
and it is a real pain when three or four of us have colds and we keep
running out of aspirin because the corner pharmacist won't sell us as
much as we need. So I buy some every time I go to Asda. I must have a
couple of dozen packets of aspirin in my cupboard.
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PeteM
Derek ^
2006-01-12 22:15:48 UTC
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Post by PeteM
The theory - and there is actually evidence to support it - is that many
self-poisoning suicides happen like this. Somebody is sitting at home
depressed and thinking of suicide. She goes to the bathroom cabinet. If
she finds it full of paracetamol, she takes the lot and tops herself.
But if there's only one or two packets in there, she just takes that.
After a few minutes she feels so much better that she decides not to
kill herself after all.
It sounds silly, but this really is the way it works much of the time.
It would sound more convincing if it didn't make the medicines 8 (?)
times as expensive, and therefore 20x as profitable. By pure
co-incidence, of course.

What's their justification for doing the same thing with skin cream
then?
Post by PeteM
The crazy thing is that the legislation actually *encourages*
stockpiling. I myself do exactly what Alan does. I have a large family
and it is a real pain when three or four of us have colds and we keep
running out of aspirin because the corner pharmacist won't sell us as
much as we need.
It's not recommended to administer Aspirin to kids under 12. (May now
be 16).

http://www.thearc.org/faqs/reyes.html

How nasty is that?

Has it been addressed by banning and restrictions?

Nope.
Post by PeteM
So I buy some every time I go to Asda. I must have a
couple of dozen packets of aspirin in my cupboard.
DG
Trent SC
2006-01-12 21:56:53 UTC
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Post by AlanG
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
The law stops them selling painkillers in quantities of more than 32
to any one customer at any one time. Introduced by Alan Milburn. One
unintended consequence was pharmacists were barred from selling packs
of 100 quarter strength aspirin to heart disease sufferers. The man is
a complete fuckwit.
Alan Milburn may or may not be a fuckwit, but (as has been stated elsewhere
in this thread) the regulation exclude a sale under the supervision of a
qualified pharmacist. You are perfectly able to try it out for yourself: go
into a supermarket and try to buy 100 Œ-strength aspirin tablets, then
repeat the experiment in Boots.
Mike
2006-01-12 22:45:58 UTC
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Post by Trent SC
Alan Milburn may or may not be a fuckwit, but (as has been stated elsewhere
in this thread) the regulation exclude a sale under the supervision of a
qualified pharmacist. You are perfectly able to try it out for yourself: go
into a supermarket and try to buy 100 ¼-strength aspirin tablets, then
repeat the experiment in Boots.
Are you quite sure about that? I use a mixture of aspirin and codeine
for a type of migraine and Boots seem to be the only pharmacy that
sells this combination OTC. When this legislation came into force,
Boots retained the same bottle size but reduced the quantity inside
the bottle from 100 to 32 and they refuse to sell me more than one
bottle, even when I'm served by the pharmacist. If I'm entitled to
buy (say) four bottles in one transaction, I'd appreciate a reference
to the leglislation and I'll wave it under their noses.

In the City, there are four Boots within a 100 yard radius, so I just
do the rounds!

Mike.
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2006-01-13 00:09:30 UTC
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Post by AlanG
Each time you go into a supermarket buy a couple of boxes of
paracetamol or aspirin. Only 16 to 20 pence. very soon you will have a
couple of hundred doses and the chemists and tescos can FOAD.
The easiest way to get a quantity of any of the painkillers is to buy a
retail sales pack from a cash & carry, usually 20 packs of 16, where there
is no limit on how many you can buy.

Colin Bignell
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-13 10:41:58 UTC
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Post by AlanG
Each time you go into a supermarket buy a couple of boxes of
paracetamol or aspirin. Only 16 to 20 pence. very soon you will have a
couple of hundred doses and the chemists and tescos can FOAD.
The easiest way to get a quantity of any of the painkillers is to buy a
retail sales pack from a cash & carry, usually 20 packs of 16, where there
is no limit on how many you can buy.
On a recent visit to Makro I noticed such bulk packs on the shelves - but
then also noticed a sign stating that the sales of such items were
restricted to customers holding specific trade cards (ie pharmacists)

Kev
AlanG
2006-01-13 19:57:46 UTC
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Post by AlanG
Each time you go into a supermarket buy a couple of boxes of
paracetamol or aspirin. Only 16 to 20 pence. very soon you will have a
couple of hundred doses and the chemists and tescos can FOAD.
The easiest way to get a quantity of any of the painkillers is to buy a
retail sales pack from a cash & carry, usually 20 packs of 16, where there
is no limit on how many you can buy.
Only works if you have an account at a cash and carry.
Need a checkable business address to get one.
"nightjar" .uk.com>
2006-01-14 16:12:09 UTC
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The easiest way to get a quantity of any of the painkillers is to buy a
retail sales pack from a cash & carry, usually 20 packs of 16, where there
is no limit on how many you can buy.
Only works if you have an account at a cash and carry.
Need a checkable business address to get one.
IME, most people seem to either have one or know someone who has.

Colin Bignell
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-14 18:40:50 UTC
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Post by "nightjar" .uk.com>
The easiest way to get a quantity of any of the painkillers is to buy a
retail sales pack from a cash & carry, usually 20 packs of 16, where there
is no limit on how many you can buy.
Only works if you have an account at a cash and carry.
Need a checkable business address to get one.
IME, most people seem to either have one or know someone who has.
But as I have already pointed out, certainly in Makro, it is not sufficient
to have an account with them - it has to be a certain type of account - ie a
pharmacy account. 'Normal' account holders cannot purchase drugs in bulk.

Kev
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But as I have already pointed out, certainly in Makro, it is not
sufficient to have an account with them - it has to be a certain type of
account - ie a pharmacy account. 'Normal' account holders cannot purchase
drugs in bulk.
Except that it is Makro I buy them from and I have a normal account.

Colin Bignell
Uno Hoo!
2006-01-15 10:00:07 UTC
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Post by Uno Hoo!
But as I have already pointed out, certainly in Makro, it is not
sufficient to have an account with them - it has to be a certain type of
account - ie a pharmacy account. 'Normal' account holders cannot purchase
drugs in bulk.
Except that it is Makro I buy them from and I have a normal account.
Well all I can say is that that should not be happening. The notice on the
'drug' shelves is very clear. It may be that check-out operators are not
enforcing it - but the rule is there!

Kev
AlanG
2006-01-15 08:54:24 UTC
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The easiest way to get a quantity of any of the painkillers is to buy a
retail sales pack from a cash & carry, usually 20 packs of 16, where there
is no limit on how many you can buy.
Only works if you have an account at a cash and carry.
Need a checkable business address to get one.
IME, most people seem to either have one or know someone who has.
Not me.

I used to buy large quantities of cooking oil (100s litres). Tried our
local cash and carry and all they would supply was the cooking oil and
only on and order on company headed notepaper.
Michael Chare
2006-01-14 01:52:06 UTC
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Post by AlanG
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0000, "Michael Chare"
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
The law stops them selling painkillers in quantities of more than 32
to any one customer at any one time. Introduced by Alan Milburn. One
unintended consequence was pharmacists were barred from selling packs
of 100 quarter strength aspirin to heart disease sufferers. The man is
a complete fuckwit.
Tesco have now told me that the law restricts the sale of paracetamol.

Their restriction of the sale of Ibuprofen is their own idea.

I bet you can buy several bottles of whisky - but then they would make more
profit!
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Michael Chare
Bystander
2006-01-12 20:21:45 UTC
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Sale of common painkillers is restricted through the checkouts. Larger packs
and quantities are sold through the pharmacy where the sale is checked by a
qualified pharmacist. Simple as that - nothing to do with a Tesco stitch-up.
Mr X
2006-01-12 21:37:02 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
My local Tesco's are the same. They apply it to Aspirins as well as
Paracetamol's

I believe this is due to Government regulations, part of the ever-
increasing nanny state
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M. J. Powell
2006-01-12 22:43:42 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Medical article in the Times today by a doctor said that they can cause
liver damage in some people.

Mike
Michael Chare
2006-01-13 01:33:12 UTC
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Post by M. J. Powell
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Medical article in the Times today by a doctor said that they can cause
liver damage in some people.
The journalist has clearly read the instructions in a Tesco's packet!
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Michael Chare
M. J. Powell
2006-01-13 14:33:35 UTC
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Post by Michael Chare
Post by M. J. Powell
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose
this
Post by M. J. Powell
Post by Michael Chare
limit?
Medical article in the Times today by a doctor said that they can cause
liver damage in some people.
The journalist has clearly read the instructions in a Tesco's packet!
Repeat: By a doctor.

Mike
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M.J.Powell
Ross Hall
2006-01-13 16:29:53 UTC
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The limit is partly emposed by best practice, partly by guidelines
(Department of Health and their college) on distribution of pain
killers.

If you went in to a local chemists and bought a large quantity of PKs
the pharmacist (if worth his salt) would question you about the
what/why/wherefore. Provided you were not in an "at risk" group of
people (e.g those at risk of kidney failure / addiction / etc) you
should get a reasonable order.

If the Pharmacist was suspicious they might limit your purchase. This
is to limit their exposure (e.g. so they don't get seen as being the
people who sold you 1,000 pills to top yourself, or to feed an
additiction), but, yes, to make it more inconvenient for you to buy
such quantities. The reasoning behind this is basically that without
prescription, a 3-5 day supply should be sufficient to see you to a
Doctor's appointment. (If I remember rights, 2 packets of 32 Ibuprofen
should be enough to see you through 6 days at maximum dose).

Bottom line is don't feel upset or offened. If you need more than 2
packets in a week you need to talk to a doctor - and yes, most
pharmacists will sell a prescription of ibuprofen at retail price
rather than the 6-quid-odd price of the prescription charge.



R
mike
2006-01-15 14:07:04 UTC
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0000, "Michael Chare"
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Last week Lloyds chemist refused to sell me 2 bottles of Night
Nurse(cough mixture)-*it's against the law*.What law??
AlanG
2006-01-15 18:34:00 UTC
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Post by AlanG
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:41:11 -0000, "Michael Chare"
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
Last week Lloyds chemist refused to sell me 2 bottles of Night
Nurse(cough mixture)-*it's against the law*.What law??
Probably get them struck off the pharmacutical register. There was a
tabloid scare about people being addicted to cough medicines. This
sounds like a knee jerk reaction to it.
e_svoboda
2006-01-16 14:52:33 UTC
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"Michael Chare" <
Post by Michael Chare
A branch of Tesco's would only sell me a maximum of 2 packets of their Ibuprofen
at any one time.
I've not known them refuse to sell anything before!
Would they be following any government laws or guidelines when they impose this
limit?
es;
Yes, they are implementing "guidelines" - over-the-counter sale of several
drugs is now limited to two boxes of 16 tablets (this includes Ibuprofen)
HOWEVER
if the same shop has a pharmacy, a qualified pharmacist can sell you up-to
100 tablets of the same product - if s/he is satisfied with your reason....

These "guidelines" are for idiots on a checkout.
You can buy 32 aspirins (at 300 mg) only
You can buy 32 Paracetamol only etc
I buy an item which is a mixture of two drugs (Aspirin 300mg and Paracetamol
200mg) because I know this helps me - these too are restricted to 32 tablets
only (but are factually a double doze)

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