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Faraday Tracing?
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Simon Dean
2003-09-26 09:42:34 UTC
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I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.

Presumably they'll need me to dish out my National Insurance Number to
them to confirm their records!

Of course, Im concerned in case it might be something to do with debt
collectors and assume its just me or something.

The company is registered on companies house, the letterlooks quite
professional, personally signed, but there's no website for them, and
little mention anywhere else on the internet of said company except for
a mention in something to with J Sainsbury's pension thing I think.

So erm, Im confused about trusting this company and disclosing personal
details.

Now, this company in question, is called Faraday Tracing Bureau Ltd.

Anyone got any info?

Cheers
Simon
Andy R
2003-09-26 10:01:03 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Presumably they'll need me to dish out my National Insurance Number to
them to confirm their records!
Of course, Im concerned in case it might be something to do with debt
collectors and assume its just me or something.
The company is registered on companies house, the letterlooks quite
professional, personally signed, but there's no website for them, and
little mention anywhere else on the internet of said company except for
a mention in something to with J Sainsbury's pension thing I think.
So erm, Im confused about trusting this company and disclosing personal
details.
Now, this company in question, is called Faraday Tracing Bureau Ltd.
If they're genuine they should accept your concerns. Perhaps suggest to
them that you give them the first, third and fifth characters from your NI
number and by return they should send you the second, fourth and sixth
characters from the one on the policy they have. If you both agree on the
characters then they obviously already have your NI number and you've
nothing to lose then by giving them the rest of it.

Rgds

Andy R
Simon Dean
2003-09-26 10:39:56 UTC
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Post by Andy R
If they're genuine they should accept your concerns. Perhaps suggest to
them that you give them the first, third and fifth characters from your NI
number and by return they should send you the second, fourth and sixth
characters from the one on the policy they have. If you both agree on the
characters then they obviously already have your NI number and you've
nothing to lose then by giving them the rest of it.
I had that same idea to be honest.

Cheers
Simon
Take a Walk
2003-09-26 10:54:57 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
Post by Andy R
If they're genuine they should accept your concerns. Perhaps suggest to
them that you give them the first, third and fifth characters from your NI
number and by return they should send you the second, fourth and sixth
characters from the one on the policy they have. If you both agree on the
characters then they obviously already have your NI number and you've
nothing to lose then by giving them the rest of it.
I had that same idea to be honest.
Cheers
Simon
Oh-ho, just found reference to Faraday Tracing on a C.S.A. list!
Any kids out there that you might not know about!

www.csa.uk.com (very slow site)
Take a Walk
2003-09-26 11:07:10 UTC
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Post by Take a Walk
Oh-ho, just found reference to Faraday Tracing on a C.S.A. list!
Any kids out there that you might not know about!
www.csa.uk.com (very slow site)
Panic partly over, CSA is Credit Services Association -its just taken 10
mins for the front page to come up.

Bu I would be very suspiciuous of them, I would say they want you for
money not the reverse.

Going back to CSA, when they phone they never say CSA, they always say
they are from the 'Dept of Work and Pensions' sneaky gits.
Simon Dean
2003-09-26 11:47:44 UTC
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Post by Take a Walk
Post by Take a Walk
Oh-ho, just found reference to Faraday Tracing on a C.S.A. list!
Any kids out there that you might not know about!
www.csa.uk.com (very slow site)
Panic partly over, CSA is Credit Services Association -its just taken 10
mins for the front page to come up.
CSA indeed. You had me really scared for a second.
Post by Take a Walk
Bu I would be very suspiciuous of them, I would say they want you for
money not the reverse.
Sadly, or not, it was for another Mr Dean born in 1961. Anybody?

So, preserved here in Google Groups archive, Im guessing that Faraday
Tracing can be trusted. Unless the paranoia in me takes over and leads
me to think that maybe they've been browsing Google Groups for this post...

Thanks to everyone for their advice. Sadly it wasn't needed. I was
hoping there was some long lost relative. Ne'er mind.

Cheers
Simon
Simon Dean
2003-09-26 11:50:30 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
Sadly, or not, it was for another Mr Dean born in 1961. Anybody?
Yeah,first question was, "were you born in 1961?" "me? no. 1977."
"Oh,sorry for troubling you".

Cya
Simon
dg
2003-09-26 10:01:46 UTC
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Well the logical first question is - did you take out this insurance?

If not, then its's nothing to do with you, and not worth disclosing details
for.

If it is yours, get in touch with the insurers direct.

dg
Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Presumably they'll need me to dish out my National Insurance Number to
them to confirm their records!
Of course, Im concerned in case it might be something to do with debt
collectors and assume its just me or something.
The company is registered on companies house, the letterlooks quite
professional, personally signed, but there's no website for them, and
little mention anywhere else on the internet of said company except for
a mention in something to with J Sainsbury's pension thing I think.
So erm, Im confused about trusting this company and disclosing personal
details.
Now, this company in question, is called Faraday Tracing Bureau Ltd.
Anyone got any info?
Cheers
Simon
Simon Dean
2003-09-26 10:39:28 UTC
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Post by dg
Well the logical first question is - did you take out this insurance?
They dont say what it is.

As far as I know, I have no insurance or policy. Im 26, had a
stakeholder pension plan a couple years back, but they know my info.
Post by dg
If not, then its's nothing to do with you, and not worth disclosing details
for.
Its that unknown aspect that has been wondering.
Post by dg
If it is yours, get in touch with the insurers direct.
Can't I dont know who they are. At the back of my mind there's a thought
that there could be some relative somewhere... but I dont know.

Cheers
Simon
dg
2003-09-26 14:28:30 UTC
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Precisely.

You have not taken out any insurance, so you have no dealings with any
insurance company, so you have no reason to respond.

Just give them your address and ask them to forward it to the insurers to
contact you direct.

dg
Post by Simon Dean
Post by dg
Well the logical first question is - did you take out this insurance?
They dont say what it is.
As far as I know, I have no insurance or policy. Im 26, had a
stakeholder pension plan a couple years back, but they know my info.
Post by dg
If not, then its's nothing to do with you, and not worth disclosing details
for.
Its that unknown aspect that has been wondering.
Post by dg
If it is yours, get in touch with the insurers direct.
Can't I dont know who they are. At the back of my mind there's a thought
that there could be some relative somewhere... but I dont know.
Cheers
Simon
DaveK
2003-09-26 10:08:12 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Sounds like one of those outfits that tell you could be the recipient of a
large bequest from your long lost relative. All you have to do is send them
a fee to disclose details.
DaveK.
Simon Dean
2003-09-26 10:37:55 UTC
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Post by DaveK
Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Sounds like one of those outfits that tell you could be the recipient of a
large bequest from your long lost relative. All you have to do is send them
a fee to disclose details.
Faraday Tracing, appears to be related to Argosy Faraday? But I could be
wrong.

I wonder how much it would be, and if would be worth it?

Cheers
Simon
Peter Crosland
2003-09-26 13:27:29 UTC
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Post by DaveK
Sounds like one of those outfits that tell you could be the recipient of a
large bequest from your long lost relative. All you have to do is send them
a fee to disclose details.
DaveK.
Don't be too cynical about them! A friend of mine has just received around
twenty grand from a reputable firm of tracing agents. OK they took a
reasonable fee particularly as he had no idea of the existence of the money.
This was from an estate of a long dead and distant relative. There was
considerable dialogue with them to establish who he was and it was not until
the other family members had been located that he actually got the money.
Well worth the wait though!
AndrewR
2003-09-26 10:18:11 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Contact the pension/insurance company, and ask them if it's legit?

Andrew
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Simon Dean
2003-09-26 10:36:54 UTC
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Post by AndrewR
Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Contact the pension/insurance company, and ask them if it's legit?
That could be difficult. They didn't disclose who they were, and to my
knowledge, I have nothing setup. At least nothing I can remember. Im
only 26... but I suppose a relative might have been thoughtful at some
point... I have no idea!

Cheers
Simon
scoob
2003-09-26 10:54:47 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
Post by AndrewR
Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Contact the pension/insurance company, and ask them if it's legit?
That could be difficult. They didn't disclose who they were, and to my
knowledge, I have nothing setup. At least nothing I can remember. Im
only 26... but I suppose a relative might have been thoughtful at some
point... I have no idea!
Cheers
Simon
There are a few businesses registered (or were) at the same address:

Bridgeman Perry & Co Accountants
and
Manorgate Building and Joinery Ltd (trade contractors) (Dissolved)

Dunno if that helps you at all. Thats from one of those Dun and Bradstreet
databases - no sign of the Trace bureau

Although they do have Data protection license along with two other places:
http://www.dpr.gov.uk/cgi-bin/dpr98-search.pl?source=DPR&Fieldname=&Fieldaddress=&Fieldpostcode=SM1+4DA&Fieldsubdiv=&Fieldactivities=&Fieldregistration=&begin=0&number=20&.submit.x=60&.submit.y=10

Top idea about giving a few details from your NI number though.

Scoob
Anthony R. Gold
2003-09-26 11:52:58 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
Of course, Im concerned in case it might be something to do with debt
collectors and assume its just me or something.
If you're hiding from your creditors then you'd better keep your head down
and let any unclaimed bequests, policies and pensions go someone else :-)

Tony
Simon Dean
2003-09-26 12:01:29 UTC
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Post by Anthony R. Gold
Post by Simon Dean
Of course, Im concerned in case it might be something to do with debt
collectors and assume its just me or something.
If you're hiding from your creditors then you'd better keep your head down
and let any unclaimed bequests, policies and pensions go someone else :-)
I know it was a joke... but far from it, Im not hiding... I just hate
creditors... I always feel that I'd make an agreement with them, then
they'd start demanding more, and more, and more, and start making out
you owe more than you actually do...

Cya
Simon
Paul C. Dickie
2003-09-27 03:32:57 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
Now, this company in question, is called Faraday Tracing Bureau Ltd.
Anyone got any info?
http://snurl.com/2hhe

Look at the fifth purpose for keeping records:

<quote>
PURPOSE 5

Debt Administration and Factoring
Purpose Description:

The tracing of consumer and commercial debtors and the collection on
behalf of creditors. The purchasing of trade debts, including rentals
and instalment credit payments, from business.
<unquote>
--
< Paul >
Joan Mercer
2003-09-29 00:06:56 UTC
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Post by Simon Dean
I got a letter from some tracing company, who say they're working on
behalf of a large pension or insurance company in regards to a policy
that someone of my name has with them, and they only have a date of
birth and insurance number.
Presumably they'll need me to dish out my National Insurance Number to
them to confirm their records!
Of course, Im concerned in case it might be something to do with debt
collectors and assume its just me or something.
The company is registered on companies house, the letterlooks quite
professional, personally signed, but there's no website for them, and
little mention anywhere else on the internet of said company except for
a mention in something to with J Sainsbury's pension thing I think.
So erm, Im confused about trusting this company and disclosing personal
details.
Now, this company in question, is called Faraday Tracing Bureau Ltd.
Anyone got any info?
Tell 'em to piss off, unless they're offering you something in return...




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