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Police kill 2 citizens "gangland execution style"
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Reporting
2005-09-16 06:49:03 UTC
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American police in Provo, Utah conduct a "gangland execution style" slaying
of Scott Biswell and his 23 year old girlfriend Kortni.

From http://thebackup.com/archives_newsdetail.asp?id=-773595255

8/13/2002 - Fugitive Couple Shot, Killed by Police

PROVO, Utah - Provo police officers attempting to arrest two fugitives
Sunday night shot and killed the couple when the man aimed a gun at them.

Scott Biswell, 31, died at the scene. Kortni Rae Grimm, 23, was taken to
Utah Valley Regional Medical Center, where she was pronounced dead a short
time later.

The pair had lengthy criminal records. Biswell was wanted on a $250,000
felony warrant for attacking and threatening to kill two women and a baby
because their car was blocking his vehicle earlier this month. Grimm was
wanted by West Valley City police on a $50,000 warrant for failure to appear
for a June 28, 2001, sentencing hearing on a child endangerment charge.

At around 8:30 p.m. Sunday, Utah County Major Crimes Task Force members
tracked the fugitives to the hotel at 40 W. 300 South, where they had been
staying. Three hours later, members of the Provo SWAT team fired a
flash-bang into the room, and then stormed through the door.

When Biswell pointed a .380-caliber semiautomatic pistol at police, several
officers opened fire.

"We believe that our officers responded appropriately to the threat of
deadly force with the information and facts that we now have," said Provo
Police Chief Craig Geslison.

The chief declined to say how many officers fired their weapons or how many
times the suspects were shot.

The officers involved in the shooting were placed on desk duty pending an
investigation by the Utah County Attorney's Office.
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The federal government didn't charge any of the policemen who gunned down
these two citizens. Michael Chertoff was in charge of all federal criminal
investigations, why didn't he open a big investigation into these killings,
as the Constitution demands? Simply because Scott supposedly said something
bad about Jews? Who cares, people say bad things about Christianity and
Islam too sometimes, this doesn't mean the police can go kill them.

Just because someone is thought to have said "Jews are wealthy" or repeated
something from the Internet about Jews, this doesn't mean those citizens
lose their rights under the law, and can be gunned down without a trial by
local American policemen.

Where's the federal grand jury in the police "gangland execution style"
slaying of Scott Biswell and his 23 year old girlfriend Kortni? Where's the
compensation to the families?

These policemen "claimed" Scott pulled a gun on them, well, the police can
shoot to disarm or shoot to stun. They don't have to shoot to kill. Plus,
why did they kill his 23 year old girlfriend Kortni too?

Police execution without a trial - Scott Biswell said the charges were false

FALSE ACCUSATIONS CAUSED POLICE TO KILL?
"Biswell, whose criminal history dates to 1991, was wanted on a $250,000
felony warrant for attacking and threatening to kill two women and a baby
because their car was blocking his vehicle at a West Valley apartment

(FALSE ACCUSATIONS BY PEOPLE PAID TO MAKE UP FAKE STORIES?)

earlier this month, police said.
Royce Biswell said her son told her the exchange was exaggerated, but he
predicted the altercation and resulting arrest warrant would prompt police
to eventually kill him, she said.
"He said, '[The woman involved in the incident] just gave me a death
warrant, because who are they going to believe?' "
Biswell first was sent to prison 11 years ago, authorities said, and had
been paroled eight times in nine years.
Biswell and Grimm had been living with Royce Biswell but traveled to
Provo because Biswell was afraid police would attempt to arrest him in front
of his children, who also lived there, his mother said.
Grimm had been fighting to stay away from drugs for some time, attending
Narcotics Anonymous meetings with friends in Salt Lake City, but returned to
Biswell after his release from prison, her friends said.
"She was not a bad person," said Shirley Jones of Payson, whose son
fathered a baby with Grimm. "She wasn't a leader-type, she was a led-type."
Records show Grimm was wanted on a $50,000 warrant for failure to appear
for a June 28, 2001, sentencing hearing after she pleaded guilty to a child
endangerment charge. An officer allegedly found methamphetamine near Grimm's
sleeping baby

(FALSE ACCUSATIONS BY PEOPLE PAID TO MAKE UP FAKE STORIES?)

on March 21, 2001, court documents say."

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bryan
2005-09-16 08:34:54 UTC
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Post by Reporting
American police in Provo, Utah conduct a "gangland execution style" slaying
of Scott Biswell and his 23 year old girlfriend Kortni.
From http://thebackup.com/archives_newsdetail.asp?id=-773595255
8/13/2002 - Fugitive Couple Shot, Killed by Police
PROVO, Utah - Provo police officers attempting to arrest two fugitives
Sunday night shot and killed the couple when the man aimed a gun at them.
well, duh.
dakeb
2005-09-16 10:37:15 UTC
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"The pair had lengthy criminal records. Biswell was wanted on a $250,000
felony warrant for attacking and threatening to kill two women and a baby
because their car was blocking his vehicle earlier this month. Grimm was
wanted by West Valley City police on a $50,000 warrant for failure to appear
for a June 28, 2001, sentencing hearing on a child endangerment charge."

Violent criminals got killed.

Sounds like a result to me.
Gaz
2005-09-16 12:23:33 UTC
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Post by dakeb
"The pair had lengthy criminal records. Biswell was wanted on a $250,000
felony warrant for attacking and threatening to kill two women and a baby
because their car was blocking his vehicle earlier this month. Grimm was
wanted by West Valley City police on a $50,000 warrant for failure to appear
for a June 28, 2001, sentencing hearing on a child endangerment charge."
Violent criminals got killed.
Sounds like a result to me.
Anyone else noticed how, over the last few years, we keep getting obscure
news items about american politics or society posted to the group, with
by-lines that seem to have little to do with the story, or at best a gross
distortion, usually blaming Bush for some failure or other. I wonder if I
should set up a newsgoup filter for:

bush
neocon
fascist
iraq
isreal
halliburton
republicans
oil companies

It might cut down the traffic

Gaz
f***@gmail.com
2005-09-16 15:23:09 UTC
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Bush is a neocon fascist who invaded Iraq to satisfy powerful
republicans - ie his father - and Israel who wanted revenge for
Saddams's SCUD attacks.
Most of the profits of the invasion have went to large oil companies
and those involved in oil services and military logistics such as
Halliburton.

**** BUT THATS THE TRUTH ******
Gaz
2005-09-16 17:58:19 UTC
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Post by f***@gmail.com
Bush is a neocon fascist who invaded Iraq to satisfy powerful
republicans - ie his father - and Israel who wanted revenge for
Saddams's SCUD attacks.
Most of the profits of the invasion have went to large oil companies
and those involved in oil services and military logistics such as
Halliburton.
**** BUT THATS THE TRUTH ******
Thanks for proving my point.

Gaz
Fat Freddy's Cat
2005-09-16 18:01:25 UTC
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Post by f***@gmail.com
Most of the profits of the invasion have went to large oil companies
Is that the same european and american oil companies that actually designed
and built the **entire** Iraqi oil infrastrcture, only to have it
nationalised (read stolen) by Saddam a couple of decades ago?

g.
Phineas Phreak
2005-09-16 22:15:08 UTC
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Post by Fat Freddy's Cat
Post by f***@gmail.com
Most of the profits of the invasion have went to large oil companies
Is that the same european and american oil companies that actually designed
and built the **entire** Iraqi oil infrastrcture, only to have it
nationalised (read stolen) by Saddam a couple of decades ago?
A bit like Nasser when he nationalised the Suez Canal back in 1956.
Post by Fat Freddy's Cat
g.
Fat Freddy's Cat
2005-09-16 13:21:40 UTC
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Post by Reporting
American police in Provo, Utah conduct a "gangland execution style" slaying
of Scott Biswell and his 23 year old girlfriend Kortni.
gangland slaying conjures (for me anyway) the deliberate and cold-bloodied
execution of a person or people, normally unarmed, bound up etc.,

not, the shooting of 2 dangerous criminals who decide they'll 'have a go' by
pointing a gun at armed police.

maybe its just me though,
g.
Alex
2005-09-16 14:55:49 UTC
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Post by Fat Freddy's Cat
Post by Reporting
American police in Provo, Utah conduct a "gangland execution style" slaying
of Scott Biswell and his 23 year old girlfriend Kortni.
gangland slaying conjures (for me anyway) the deliberate and cold-bloodied
execution of a person or people, normally unarmed, bound up etc.,
not, the shooting of 2 dangerous criminals who decide they'll 'have a go' by
pointing a gun at armed police.
maybe its just me though,
I agree totally - the mother of a friend of mine went away to a Maltese
hotel to recuperate after nervous problems but shortly after arrival was
told to assemble with other guests in the dining room as one other guest had
been found in his room bound, gagged, with a flour sack over his head, and
shot in the back of the neck. Needless to say the r & r she was looking for
did not materialise!
Fergus O'Rourke
2005-09-19 11:04:46 UTC
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"Reporting" <***@no.spam.net> wrote in message news:zVtWe.24334$***@trndny03...
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- Provo police officers attempting to arrest two fugitives
Post by Reporting
Sunday night shot and killed the couple when the man aimed a gun at them.
Scott Biswell, 31, died at the scene. Kortni Rae Grimm, 23, was taken to
Utah Valley Regional Medical Center, where she was pronounced dead a short
time later.
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Jays, first Colombia, now Utah, those Provos are everywhere !

But at least they now seem to be participating in policing !

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