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Brexit PLOT: Is this stunning PROOF that Theresa May WANTED to lose crunch vote?
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MM
2018-12-05 18:37:24 UTC
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"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a particular
comment from one of the Tory rebels.

"Laura Kuenssberg pointed towards the possibility of Theresa May
wanting to lose the crunch vote over Dominic Grieve’s amendment, which
would allow for an amendable motion 21 days after a Government defeat
of the current Brexit deal. The BBC Political Editor referred to a
comment from one of the Tory rebels, which mentioned how they did not
receive a 'single call from the whips'. She also discussed how the
whips reacted to Mr Grieve’s amendment in comparison to the contempt
motion, which led to the publication of the Attorney General’s legal
advice. Speaking on Brexitcast, Ms Kuenssberg said: 'There will be
people who say, as ever, hmm maybe that’s what she wanted all along.'"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1054714/brexit-news-latest-vote-deal-theresa-may-dominic-grieve-amendment-legal-advice-contempt-uk

MM
Pamela
2018-12-05 19:12:00 UTC
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Post by MM
"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a particular
comment from one of the Tory rebels.
"Laura Kuenssberg pointed towards the possibility of Theresa May
wanting to lose the crunch vote over Dominic Grieve’s amendment, which
would allow for an amendable motion 21 days after a Government defeat
of the current Brexit deal. The BBC Political Editor referred to a
comment from one of the Tory rebels, which mentioned how they did not
receive a 'single call from the whips'. She also discussed how the
whips reacted to Mr Grieve’s amendment in comparison to the contempt
motion, which led to the publication of the Attorney General’s legal
advice. Speaking on Brexitcast, Ms Kuenssberg said: 'There will be
people who say, as ever, hmm maybe that’s what she wanted all along.'"
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1054714/brexit-news-latest-vote-deal-
theresa-may-dominic-grieve-amendment-legal-advice-contempt-uk
MM
Although the Express carries too many conspiracy theories for my liking,
this one may be true.

It might astonish naive observers that sometimes all in politics is not as
it seems. The shocked ones might find it useful to look at some old
episodes of "Yes Minister" for a quick education in how such things
actually work.

For example, by losing the vote which now permits Parliament to have the
last say in proposals for No Brexit, Theresa May has in fact weakened
Rees-Mogg and the ERG who were counting on their ability to hijack the
government process and force a No Deal without reference to Parliament.
Pamela
2018-12-05 19:17:54 UTC
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Post by Pamela
Post by MM
"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a particular
comment from one of the Tory rebels.
"Laura Kuenssberg pointed towards the possibility of Theresa May
wanting to lose the crunch vote over Dominic Grieve’s amendment,
which would allow for an amendable motion 21 days after a Government
defeat of the current Brexit deal. The BBC Political Editor referred
to a comment from one of the Tory rebels, which mentioned how they
did not receive a 'single call from the whips'. She also discussed
how the whips reacted to Mr Grieve’s amendment in comparison to the
contempt motion, which led to the publication of the Attorney
'There will be people who say, as ever, hmm maybe that’s what she
wanted all along.'"
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1054714/brexit-news-latest-
vote-deal- theresa-may-dominic-grieve-amendment-legal-advice-
contempt-uk
MM
Although the Express carries too many conspiracy theories for my
liking, this one may be true.
It might astonish naive observers that sometimes all in politics is
not as it seems. The shocked ones might find it useful to look at
some old episodes of "Yes Minister" for a quick education in how such
things actually work.
For example, by losing the vote which now permits Parliament to have
the last say in proposals for No Brexit, Theresa May has in fact
weakened Rees-Mogg and the ERG who were counting on their ability to
hijack the government process and force a No Deal without reference to
Parliament.
Instead of "No Brexit" I mean "No Deal". I need a cup of tea.
abelard
2018-12-05 19:33:02 UTC
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Post by Pamela
Post by MM
"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a particular
comment from one of the Tory rebels.
what is 'crunch' about it?
why would she put 2 years effort into something he didn't want to do?

what is wrong with parliament taking responsibility for what is their
duty?
Post by Pamela
Post by MM
"Laura Kuenssberg pointed towards the possibility of Theresa May
wanting to lose the crunch vote over Dominic Grieve’s amendment, which
would allow for an amendable motion 21 days after a Government defeat
of the current Brexit deal. The BBC Political Editor referred to a
comment from one of the Tory rebels, which mentioned how they did not
receive a 'single call from the whips'. She also discussed how the
whips reacted to Mr Grieve’s amendment in comparison to the contempt
motion, which led to the publication of the Attorney General’s legal
advice. Speaking on Brexitcast, Ms Kuenssberg said: 'There will be
people who say, as ever, hmm maybe that’s what she wanted all along.'"
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1054714/brexit-news-latest-vote-deal-
theresa-may-dominic-grieve-amendment-legal-advice-contempt-uk
MM
Although the Express carries too many conspiracy theories for my liking,
this one may be true.
It might astonish naive observers that sometimes all in politics is not as
it seems. The shocked ones might find it useful to look at some old
episodes of "Yes Minister" for a quick education in how such things
actually work.
For example, by losing the vote which now permits Parliament to have the
last say in proposals for No Brexit, Theresa May has in fact weakened
Rees-Mogg and the ERG who were counting on their ability to hijack the
government process and force a No Deal without reference to Parliament.
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Ian Jackson
2018-12-05 20:16:00 UTC
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Post by Pamela
Post by MM
"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a particular
comment from one of the Tory rebels.
"Laura Kuenssberg pointed towards the possibility of Theresa May
wanting to lose the crunch vote over Dominic Grieve’s amendment, which
would allow for an amendable motion 21 days after a Government defeat
of the current Brexit deal. The BBC Political Editor referred to a
comment from one of the Tory rebels, which mentioned how they did not
receive a 'single call from the whips'. She also discussed how the
whips reacted to Mr Grieve’s amendment in comparison to the contempt
motion, which led to the publication of the Attorney General’s legal
advice. Speaking on Brexitcast, Ms Kuenssberg said: 'There will be
people who say, as ever, hmm maybe that’s what she wanted all along.'"
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1054714/brexit-news-latest-vote-deal-
theresa-may-dominic-grieve-amendment-legal-advice-contempt-uk
MM
Although the Express carries too many conspiracy theories for my liking,
this one may be true.
It might astonish naive observers that sometimes all in politics is not as
it seems. The shocked ones might find it useful to look at some old
episodes of "Yes Minister" for a quick education in how such things
actually work.
For example, by losing the vote which now permits Parliament to have the
last say in proposals for No Brexit, Theresa May has in fact weakened
Rees-Mogg and the ERG who were counting on their ability to hijack the
government process and force a No Deal without reference to Parliament.
Liam Fox is claiming that MPs could "steal Brexit from the British
people". I can only assume that Parliament is actually asserting its
lost sovereignty.
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Ian
Pamela
2018-12-05 20:34:35 UTC
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Post by Ian Jackson
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Post by MM
"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a
particular comment from one of the Tory rebels.
"Laura Kuenssberg pointed towards the possibility of Theresa May
wanting to lose the crunch vote over Dominic Grieve’s amendment,
which would allow for an amendable motion 21 days after a Government
defeat of the current Brexit deal. The BBC Political Editor referred
to a comment from one of the Tory rebels, which mentioned how they
did not receive a 'single call from the whips'. She also discussed
how the whips reacted to Mr Grieve’s amendment in comparison to
the contempt motion, which led to the publication of the Attorney
General’s legal advice. Speaking on Brexitcast, Ms Kuenssberg
said: 'There will be people who say, as ever, hmm maybe that’s
what she wanted all along.'"
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1054714/brexit-news-
latest-vote-deal-theresa-may-dominic-grieve-amendment-
legal-advice-contempt-uk
MM
Although the Express carries too many conspiracy theories for my
liking, this one may be true.
It might astonish naive observers that sometimes all in politics is
not as it seems. The shocked ones might find it useful to look at
some old episodes of "Yes Minister" for a quick education in how such
things actually work.
For example, by losing the vote which now permits Parliament to have
the last say in proposals for No Brexit, Theresa May has in fact
weakened Rees-Mogg and the ERG who were counting on their ability to
hijack the government process and force a No Deal without reference to
Parliament.
Liam Fox is claiming that MPs could "steal Brexit from the British
people". I can only assume that Parliament is actually asserting its
lost sovereignty.
Liam Fox has made some pretty cuckoo statements in the last couple of
days and that is certainly one of them.

We can add them to his claim that a post-Brexit trade deal will be "the
easiest in human history".

Just think, the nation's defences were once in the hands of this man.
Shitsack Moishe Goldberg
2018-12-05 19:32:23 UTC
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Post by MM
"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a particular
comment from one of the Tory rebels.
Kuenssberg, Kuenssberg...is jewish, this name?
The Peeler
2018-12-05 20:26:30 UTC
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Post by MM
"THERESA May could have wanted to lose the vote on the amendment
tabled by Dominic Grieve, which all but rules out a no-deal exit,
speculates BBC Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg, citing a particular
comment from one of the Tory rebels.
Kuenssberg, Kuenssberg...is jewish, this name?
"Shitsack Moishe Goldberg" - is a psychiatric case, this poster? <BG>
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