Discussion:
Masonic abuse of asbestos
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Warren Buckley
2011-04-21 14:53:01 UTC
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Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
You said it.

Question: Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?

Answer: Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
KIV11
2011-04-21 14:58:41 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Question: Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Answer:  Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
Aha, you forgot the old Ben & Jerry's asbestos cancer in a quart of
Cherry Garcia trick.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-21 16:17:05 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Aha, you forgot the old Ben & Jerry's asbestos
cancer in a quart of Cherry Garcia trick.
Question: Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?

Answer:  Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.

Maybe someone let out the truth?
F Murtz
2011-04-22 02:14:32 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Question: Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Answer: Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
Aha, you forgot the old Ben& Jerry's asbestos cancer in a quart of
Cherry Garcia trick.
This is a ridiculous thread, and by the way you can drink asbestos and
it wont give you asbestos related cancer.
The Todal
2011-04-21 16:40:53 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
You said it.
Question: Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Answer: Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
But asbestos-related lung cancer is very rare. And many sufferers are heavy
smokers which makes it doubtful whether asbestos was the cause of the lung
cancer.
Tom Accuosti
2011-04-21 17:33:54 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Warren Buckley
Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
You said it.
Question: Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Answer: Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
But asbestos-related lung cancer is very rare. And many sufferers are heavy
smokers which makes it doubtful whether asbestos was the cause of the lung
cancer.
Darn! So, you're saying that our insidious, secret methods may not have
worked at all?
--
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Warren Buckley
2011-04-21 19:25:14 UTC
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Post by Tom Accuosti
Darn! So, you're saying that our insidious,
secret methods may not have worked at all?
I take you seriously. I think you mean it. You may want people to think
you're joking, but I think you mean it.
Tom Accuosti
2011-04-21 19:36:28 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by Tom Accuosti
Darn! So, you're saying that our insidious,
secret methods may not have worked at all?
I take you seriously. I think you mean it. You may want people to think
you're joking, but I think you mean it.
Darn! So, you mean my insidious use of sarcasm might not have worked at all?
--
Tom Accuosti
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Exalted Keeper of the Secrets of Freemasonariansim
Grand Sovereign Pontiff and Secret Enquisitor
Ambassador to Zeta-Reticula

P.M., Friendship #33.3 AM&FM
Area 51, Atlantis
Warren Buckley
2011-04-21 19:52:36 UTC
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Post by Tom Accuosti
Darn! So, you mean my insidious use
of sarcasm might not have worked at all?
I think you were not being sarcastic. I think you mean it.
Tom Accuosti
2011-04-21 20:21:50 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by Tom Accuosti
Darn! So, you mean my insidious use
of sarcasm might not have worked at all?
I think you were not being sarcastic. I think you mean it.
Well, let's see. Does ice cream give you lung cancer?
_checks Magic 8-Ball_
Signs point to "No"

And there you have it.
--
Tom Accuosti
http://masonictao.com

Exalted Keeper of the Secrets of Freemasonariansim
Grand Sovereign Pontiff and Secret Enquisitor
Ambassador to Zeta-Reticula

P.M., Friendship #33.3 AM&FM
Area 51, Atlantis
Warren Buckley
2011-04-21 21:01:34 UTC
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Post by Tom Accuosti
Post by Warren Buckley
I think you were not being sarcastic. I think you mean it.
Well, let's see. Does ice cream give you lung cancer?
_checks Magic 8-Ball_
Signs point to "No"
And there you have it.
Ice-cream does not give one cancer, to the best of my knowledge.
Tom Accuosti
2011-04-21 21:48:54 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by Tom Accuosti
Post by Warren Buckley
I think you were not being sarcastic. I think you mean it.
Well, let's see. Does ice cream give you lung cancer?
_checks Magic 8-Ball_
Signs point to "No"
And there you have it.
Ice-cream does not give one cancer, to the best of my knowledge.
Which is why we don't give it to people when we want to give them
cancer. See how that works?
--
Tom Accuosti
http://masonictao.com

Exalted Keeper of the Secrets of Freemasonariansim
Grand Sovereign Pontiff and Secret Enquisitor
Ambassador to Zeta-Reticula

P.M., Friendship #33.3 AM&FM
Area 51, Atlantis
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 00:11:11 UTC
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Post by Tom Accuosti
Which is why we don't give it to people when
we want to give them cancer. See how that works?
Yes. I do think you are deadly serious.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 19:09:41 UTC
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Unfortunately, as proved in other threads,
you wouldn't know sarcasm if it fell out if
the sky, landed on your face and started wiggling.
So when Freemasons get caught telling the truth about their murder and
harassment, it's sarcasm?
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 18:56:41 UTC
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your vomit on that subject. Second i said no such thing. What
I said was either your mental illness of your low intelligence
has handicapped you when detecting nuances in the written word
and the inflection of the writer.
So, when Freemasons deny murdering anyone hated by just one of their
brethren, they're lying?
Warren Buckley
2011-04-27 03:35:20 UTC
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Freemasons don't murder doofus.
I thought Freemason Brother Harold Shipman was found guilty of multiple
murders.

I seem to recall Brother Shipman was active in Liberty Lodge for all the
difference it makes.
Again nice try but still no cigar!
Don't smoke.
hamilton
2011-04-27 13:13:46 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Freemasons don't murder doofus.
I thought Freemason Brother Harold Shipman was found guilty of multiple
murders.
I seem to recall Brother Shipman was active in Liberty Lodge for all the
difference it makes.
Again nice try but still no cigar!
Don't smoke.
I did not know there were masons in Liberty Ledge !!

http://www.libertylodgeministries.com/
Warren Buckley
2011-04-27 16:34:17 UTC
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Post by hamilton
Post by Warren Buckley
I thought Freemason Brother Harold Shipman was found guilty of multiple
murders.
I seem to recall Brother Shipman was active in Liberty Lodge for all the
difference it makes.
I did not know there were masons in Liberty Ledge !!
Have another look:

http://www.libertylodgerochdale.org/
Warren Buckley
2011-04-27 21:21:30 UTC
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Although the Pastor looks like a nice guy.
Everyone in England is nice, albeit British Freemasons are rather keen on
murder. We don't question if our Queen was born in Great Britain, unlike
those in the United States and, now, where was the Queen of Australia born?
Warren Buckley
2011-04-29 18:42:17 UTC
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We like a good spectical and since we don't
have royals it cool to see.
You don't go to Sweden when they have a royal wedding, only to Great
Britain, because, thanks to Freemasonry, Britannia waives the rules.
Good Queen Brenda of England, since you ask.
Never heard of her.
Brenda is Queen of the world.
I have been to Austrailia for my work.
nice place, good people, great surfing.
Where was Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard born?
David
2011-04-29 18:53:30 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:42:17 +0000 (UTC), Warren Buckley
Post by Warren Buckley
We like a good spectical and since we don't
have royals it cool to see.
You don't go to Sweden when they have a royal wedding, only to Great
Britain, because, thanks to Freemasonry, Britannia waives the rules.
Good Queen Brenda of England, since you ask.
Never heard of her.
Brenda is Queen of the world.
I have been to Austrailia for my work.
nice place, good people, great surfing.
Where was Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard born?
No idea, don't care. So long as she is capable of doing the job it
really doesn't matter to me. So far she seems almost capable although
to hear the Liberal Party carry on she is the worst thing to ever
happen. If she upsets them that much she can't be all bad.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-30 03:04:12 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Where was Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard born?
So long as she is capable of doing the job it really doesn't
matter to me. So far she seems almost capable although to hear
the Liberal Party carry on she is the worst thing to ever
happen. If she upsets them that much she can't be all bad.
Comrade :))

We're having a referendum on Thursday to decide if the UK should adopt the
Australian AV preferential system for UK national elections.

The 'yes' side claims AV will reduce corruption in UK politics.

The 'no' campaign responds with, "like in Australia?"

How's Rupert? But he's an American nowadays.
Aaron
2011-04-29 20:34:26 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:42:17 +0000 (UTC), Warren Buckley
<***@invalid.invalid.net> wrote:

Warren, you already admitted that the main cause for your paranoia
about Freemasonry was a lie: you do not have lung cancer. The rest of
your insane ramblings are meaningless.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-30 03:11:00 UTC
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Aaron <***@home.net> wrote in news:l38mr6hpsp33e34f0320stdfsg55t4t61g@
4ax.com:

Aaron it's so good to hear from you again.
Post by Aaron
Warren, you already admitted that the main cause for your
paranoia about Freemasonry was a lie: you do not have lung
cancer. The rest of your insane ramblings are meaningless.
I have said no such thing.

My main grievance against Freemasonry is blocking my access to medicine and
legal services, both of which are free in my country. This is important,
because when I ask for the block on my access to medicine and legal
services to be removed, I am not asking for money.
Warren Buckley
2011-05-04 02:40:53 UTC
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But is so fun to watch him try and worm out from under the pile
of BS he keeps dropping. Plus it's good practice for typing and
honing the rhetoric and logic.
You're getting desperate, Brother William Arnold.
Warren Buckley
2011-05-04 15:43:40 UTC
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OK and so what, I don't speak German either.
Mir ist nicht so dumm.
More usless information....
I was answering your question.
Then all that came there could pelt him with rocks 24x7x365.
Wasn't that long ago the US based NORAID was sponsoring terrorism in my
country.
In this at least we agree.
That is a disappointment.
Warren Buckley
2011-05-05 19:36:37 UTC
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What a dick!
I could do without your admiration.
ptk1071
2011-04-27 16:39:46 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Freemasons don't murder doofus.
I thought Freemason Brother Harold Shipman was found guilty of multiple
murders.
Well again an epic fail by Warren as Harold Shipman seems not to have
been a Freemasons at all. He was a British doctor however and were it
not for the fact that he killed himeslf in prison I would have
recommended you pay him a visit.
Post by Warren Buckley
I seem to recall Brother Shipman was active in Liberty Lodge for all the
difference it makes.
No such Lodge in all the UK. Thre are several in the US, although I am
sure you already know that Harold Shipman was a Brit, not a Yank.
Oh and I checked he does not appear on the rolls of those Grand
Lodges.
Post by Warren Buckley
Again nice try but still no cigar!
Don't smoke.
So again I say Warren, nice try but no cupie doll for you. I know you
say you don't smoke...yeah right...so I will elininate the sarcasm
from that.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-27 21:31:02 UTC
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Post by ptk1071
Post by Warren Buckley
I seem to recall Brother Shipman was active in
Liberty Lodge for all the difference it makes.
No such Lodge in all the UK.
Liberty Lodge #5573 Province of East Lancashire.

http://www.libertylodgerochdale.org/

Have a nice day.
Post by ptk1071
I know you say you don't smoke...yeah
right...so I will elininate the sarcasm
from that.
When we meet, as you promised, at JFK International Airport, you can tempt
me with the 200 duty free cigarettes I will bring as a present for you.

You'll be very welcome.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-29 04:42:38 UTC
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The salient fact you again overlook is that Harold Shipman is
no where listed on that Lodge's website. So again you fail.
http://www.libertylodgerochdale.org/

Where is the membership list for Liberty Lodge?
I don't smoke cigarettes, but the occasional cigar is always
welcome. brings some Cohiba's with you and we can talk.
Is Cohiba a cigar brand? I believe we can buy Cuban cigars in the UK, and
that it's lawful to import them into the US.
The day you step foot in JFK for the purpose
of meeting me pigs will fly....
For the purpose of meeting you: you'd be right. Especially as when one
returns, American visitors to the UK say one has not really visited the US
until one has been to the Mid-West.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-29 18:31:56 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Where is the membership list for Liberty Lodge?
Unpublished as it is a private organization stuipido!
So how can I prove that Brother Harold Shipman was a Freemason member of
Liberty Lodge, albeit Liberty to your mind means the freedom to go around
killing innocent people?
I suggest in your other posting elsewhere,
that you must go there in person and
ask. I am sure they will address your questions.
Then it's difficult to reproduce their answer for your benefit, isn't it?
Yes and technically yes.
US would do better allowing American culture to flood Cuba.
So I take it you will not be here
anytime soon. I figure as much...gutless turd.
Depends what you mean by soon. Also if you continue to insult me, would
not a meeting be inadvisable, especially given the Masonic predilection for
killing innocent people?

Let us all hope the Cate and Wills marriage does not turn sour, so you will
not have an excuse for killing the Duchess of Cambridge.
David
2011-04-29 18:51:13 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:31:56 +0000 (UTC), Warren Buckley
Post by Warren Buckley
Post by Warren Buckley
Where is the membership list for Liberty Lodge?
Unpublished as it is a private organization stuipido!
So how can I prove that Brother Harold Shipman was a Freemason member of
Liberty Lodge, albeit Liberty to your mind means the freedom to go around
killing innocent people?
I suggest in your other posting elsewhere,
that you must go there in person and
ask. I am sure they will address your questions.
Then it's difficult to reproduce their answer for your benefit, isn't it?
You are the one raising the question. The answer would be for your
benefit not ours.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-30 02:57:07 UTC
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Post by David
You are the one raising the question.
The answer would be for your benefit not ours.
So, you don't need me to prove, to your satisfaction, what almost everyone
else seems to know, that Brother Lord Jeffrey Archer is a Freemason, and
Brother Harold Shipman was a Freemason?
Warren Buckley
2011-05-04 06:52:14 UTC
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You cannot prove any of this because it is UNTRUE,
that is the point your brainless twit!
So you cannot prove Harold Shipman was never a Freemason because that is
untrue?

Of which Lodge is Metropolitan police constable, Simon Harwood, a member?
Al you need do is produce a name of a member who either
verified or denied your claim. This is not rocket science...
Reproducing a written response is much clearer, unfortunately Freemasonry
does not respond to enquiries.
Matter of fact if you did follow through
for once in your life and met the challenge
I would have at least a modicum of respect for you.
I have a sister in the eastern US.

Why would anyone want your respect? Are you trying to frighten me away
from the US?
[ . . . ] killing the Duchess of Cambridge.
You are quite the nut aren't you. It's almost
laughable if your weren't so pathetic.
That the British killed Princess Diana, after she divorced Prince Charles
and gave birth to an illegitimate child, is the majority view in Great
Britain. In fairness, Diana did predict her own murder.
Warren Buckley
2011-05-04 15:58:53 UTC
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I did not make the claim, you did twit, so I have
to prove nothing, you do. Don't you get it?
I thought you said, "Well again an epic fail by Warren as Harold Shipman
seems not to have been a Freemasons at all."

Since you cannot prove the above, it follows, by your logic, that the above
must be untrue, and therefore Harold Shipman seems to have been a
Freemason.
I am sorry for her that she's related to you.
I'd rather have her than you.
I could care less about you or yours.
Is that what you intended to say?
On the contrary, I am inviting you
to a face to face if you have the guts.
Why should I need guts to meet you?
The majority view?? I doubt that.
Come to Britain and ask. Diana was very popular. It's not unknown for
members of the English royal family to kill their former wives.
hamilton
2011-05-04 18:57:39 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Since you cannot prove the above, it follows, by your logic, that the above
must be untrue, and therefore Harold Shipman seems to have been a
Freemason.
By your logic, the Pope must be a Freemason as well.

He has not stated that his is NOT a Freemason, so he must be.

You Christian leader is a Freemason, there I said it.

Now, prove me wrong.

h

PS: The pastor of your church is a Freemason as well.
Warren Buckley
2011-05-05 01:30:34 UTC
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Post by hamilton
By your logic, the Pope must be a Freemason as well.
The Pope seems to spend a lot of time supporting child sex abusers and we
know how much Freemasons love to love children.
Post by hamilton
PS: The pastor of your church is a Freemason as well.
Who is this?
Warren Buckley
2011-05-05 19:25:57 UTC
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So the Pope actually forced him to inhale asbestos and then
make some wacko claim that he was poisoned?? Interesting.
Why don't you ask the child murderer Freemason Brother Gerard Patrick
McCann, as he claims he is a Roman Catholic adherent of The Pope?
hamilton
2011-05-05 19:42:41 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
So the Pope actually forced him to inhale asbestos and then
make some wacko claim that he was poisoned?? Interesting.
Why don't you ask the child murderer Freemason Brother Gerard Patrick
McCann, as he claims he is a Roman Catholic adherent of The Pope?
Desperate are we ??
Warren Buckley
2011-05-06 08:50:50 UTC
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Post by hamilton
Desperate are we ??
Is this a reference to Freemason Brother Harold Shipman, of Liberty Lodge #
5573, killing himself the day before his birthday in order to preserve his
pension for his widow and protect the Masonic Grand Charity from having to
support his wife?
hamilton
2011-05-06 12:30:04 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by hamilton
Desperate are we ??
Is this a reference to Freemason Brother Harold Shipman, of Liberty Lodge #
5573, killing himself the day before his birthday in order to preserve his
pension for his widow and protect the Masonic Grand Charity from having to
support his wife?
Yes, I see you are desperate.

Boo, hoo, hoo.
Warren Buckley
2011-05-06 13:10:47 UTC
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Post by hamilton
Yes, I see you are desperate.
Is this a reference to Freemason Brother Harold Shipman, of Liberty Lodge #
5573, killing himself the day before his birthday in order to preserve his
pension for his widow and protect the Masonic Grand Charity from having to
support his wife?

I notice that elsewhere on this NG, the Masonic membership of murderer
Freemason Brother Harold Shipman is confirmed.

Warren Buckley
2011-05-05 19:33:49 UTC
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Yeah and what this is a suprise to you?
Do you claim you know the Masonic status of Brother Harold Shipman or not?
You made the claim so you must prove your case.
Not the BBC who claimed, on the evening of the guilty verdict, that Brother
Harold Shipman was a member of the Masonic Liberty Lodge?
Not a one ever said they believe Dianna was
killed by the monarchy.
Freemason told me the masonry always executes people who divorce Freemasons
and Princess Diana, to make matters worse, gave Brother Prince Charles an
illegitimate child.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-21 19:23:22 UTC
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Post by The Todal
But asbestos-related lung cancer is very rare.
Indeed, but in Great Britain we have this terminal illness called Natural
Causes, so it's difficult to tell.

The recent Tomlinson (?) case in Central London is a good example.
Publication of the video lead to all sorts of revisions from the original
Natural Causes.
Post by The Todal
And many sufferers are heavy smokers which makes it doubtful
whether asbestos was the cause of the lung cancer.
FWIW, I don't smoke.
The Todal
2011-04-22 08:58:21 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by The Todal
But asbestos-related lung cancer is very rare.
Indeed, but in Great Britain we have this terminal illness called Natural
Causes, so it's difficult to tell.
The recent Tomlinson (?) case in Central London is a good example.
Publication of the video lead to all sorts of revisions from the original
Natural Causes.
Post by The Todal
And many sufferers are heavy smokers which makes it doubtful
whether asbestos was the cause of the lung cancer.
FWIW, I don't smoke.
If you have cancer caused by asbestos, you will be entitled to a large sum
in compensation. Have you made a claim yet?
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 09:06:47 UTC
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Post by The Todal
If you have cancer caused by asbestos, you will be entitled
to a large sum in compensation. Have you made a claim yet?
No. How do I make a claim?

Not quite sure anyone with asbestos related illness can come to Great
Britain and get "a large sum," whatever the Daily Mail may say, but we'll
see.
The Todal
2011-04-22 10:29:43 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by The Todal
If you have cancer caused by asbestos, you will be entitled
to a large sum in compensation. Have you made a claim yet?
No. How do I make a claim?
You see a solicitor and you explain where you were exposed to asbestos.
There may also be a right to claim large sums from the Department for Work
and Pensions aka the DSS.
Post by Warren Buckley
Not quite sure anyone with asbestos related illness can come to Great
Britain and get "a large sum," whatever the Daily Mail may say, but we'll
see.
First, you need to explain when and where and by whom you were exposed to
asbestos.
hamilton
2011-04-22 12:30:46 UTC
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Post by The Todal
First, you need to explain when and where and by whom you were exposed to
asbestos.
This I would enjoy seeing.

Warren telling a lie to a government official.

This would be fraud !!

Good luck Warren, the boys will love having you in the showers.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 19:16:02 UTC
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Post by hamilton
Warren telling a lie to a government official.
Freemason Brother Lord Jeffrey Archer served five years in prison for
perjury.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 19:13:22 UTC
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Post by The Todal
You see a solicitor and you explain
where you were exposed to asbestos.
Freemasonry blocks its victims access to legal services.

I am not alone in making such claims about Freemason Brother Keith Exford
and his Affinity Sutton Homes Group.
hamilton
2011-04-22 12:28:11 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by The Todal
If you have cancer caused by asbestos, you will be entitled
to a large sum in compensation. Have you made a claim yet?
No. How do I make a claim?
You doctor should have that information.

Your doctor should have reported it to the health services.


Or, do you have a doctor ?

Maybe the truth is finally coming out !

You made all this up,

You are a lair !!
Post by Warren Buckley
Not quite sure anyone with asbestos related illness can come to Great
Britain and get "a large sum," whatever the Daily Mail may say, but we'll
see.
hamilton
2011-04-22 02:03:13 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by Warren Buckley
Question: Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
But asbestos-related lung cancer is very rare. And many sufferers are heavy
smokers which makes it doubtful whether asbestos was the cause of the lung
cancer.
WELL this is the cause !!!

Warren is a life long smoker that wants to prove that it was not _his_
fault.

If its not his fault, the social safety net will pay for his treatment
for the rest of his life. (how ever short that will be.)

If he had to blame himself, well he's toast.

So Warren, how many years have you smoked ?

(remember, your a self-professed Christian, so tell the truth )

You are from England, and the whole world knows how much they (you) like
your fags.

Have you given your doctors this same story, are they buying it?

Sad, so sad.

Well, that OK, a few years and Warren will be gone and that will be one
less burden on the system !

h
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 08:25:13 UTC
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Post by hamilton
Warren is a life long smoker that wants
to prove that it was not _his_ fault.
I'm not a smoker.
hamilton
2011-04-22 12:25:01 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by hamilton
Warren is a life long smoker that wants
to prove that it was not _his_ fault.
I'm not a smoker.
IF this is true, you don't have cancer from asbestos.

You may have cancer, but asbestos is not the cause.

Your simple answers to complex question brings up
"why not answer the questions ?"
"What are you trying to hide ?"

Does your doctors believe that you have cancer ?
Does your doctors believe that you got it from asbestos ?

Are you will to prove these by allowing your doctor to release your
records ?

h
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 19:21:52 UTC
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Post by hamilton
Post by Warren Buckley
I'm not a smoker.
IF this is true, you don't have cancer from asbestos.
How did you manage to reach that conclusion?
Post by hamilton
Your simple answers to complex question brings up
"why not answer the questions ?"
"What are you trying to hide ?"
Why not apply Occam's razor, and give priority to the simple answers?
Aaron
2011-04-23 12:46:35 UTC
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Post by hamilton
Post by Warren Buckley
Post by hamilton
Warren is a life long smoker that wants
to prove that it was not _his_ fault.
I'm not a smoker.
IF this is true, you don't have cancer from asbestos.
You may have cancer, but asbestos is not the cause.
Your simple answers to complex question brings up
"why not answer the questions ?"
"What are you trying to hide ?"
Does your doctors believe that you have cancer ?
Does your doctors believe that you got it from asbestos ?
Are you will to prove these by allowing your doctor to release your
records ?
h
Warren has already admitted that, after testing him, his doctors do
not believe that he has cancer. He has attempted to use public funded
lawyers to file law suits asking the court to force doctors to treat
him for cancer, and the lawyers have refused. So, he imagines a
conspiracy because to him that seems more probable than him not having
cancer.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-23 12:55:40 UTC
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Aaron <***@home.net> wrote in news:tai5r6tk4e8s4hoqm34e89umrivtm4j3qj@
4ax.com:

Well it's nice to hear from Grand Master Aaron again.
Post by Aaron
Warren has already admitted that, after testing him,
his doctors do not believe that he has cancer.
That's not true.
Post by Aaron
So, he imagines a conspiracy because to him that seems
more probable than him not having cancer.
When you say that anyone being harassed by Freemasons is deluded, you make
harassment by Freemasons lawful. What's the difference?
unknown
2011-04-22 10:43:57 UTC
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Post by The Todal
And many sufferers are heavy
smokers which makes it doubtful whether asbestos was the cause of the lung
cancer.
No, that's hogwash. It may work in a court where one can expect every
participant to be profoundly ignorant of oncology and epidemiology but
the chances of confusing asbestosis with a smoking related disease are
nil.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 19:26:26 UTC
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[ . . . ] the chances of confusing asbestosis with a
smoking related disease are nil.
Thanks for that.
The Todal
2011-04-22 19:38:33 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
And many sufferers are heavy
smokers which makes it doubtful whether asbestos was the cause of the lung
cancer.
No, that's hogwash. It may work in a court where one can expect every
participant to be profoundly ignorant of oncology and epidemiology but
the chances of confusing asbestosis with a smoking related disease are
nil.
No, it isn't hogwash, but thanks for the input anyway.

A person may have asbestosis - caused, of course, by asbestos - and may also
be a heavy smoker, and may develop lung cancer. You cannot say, as a
scientific fact, that the asbestos will then be the cause of the lung
cancer. Or at least, the causation will often be doubtful and may depend on
how severe the asbestosis is, and even then the experts will really be
guessing.
unknown
2011-04-22 22:24:07 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
No, that's hogwash. It may work in a court where one can expect every
participant to be profoundly ignorant of oncology and epidemiology but
the chances of confusing asbestosis with a smoking related disease are
nil.
No, it isn't hogwash, but thanks for the input anyway.
Yes it is hogwash.
Post by The Todal
A person may have asbestosis - caused, of course, by asbestos - and may also
be a heavy smoker, and may develop lung cancer. You cannot say, as a
scientific fact, that the asbestos will then be the cause of the lung
cancer.
You seem to be labouring under the mistaken impression that
mesothelioma, small-cell lung carcinoma and non small-cell lung
carcinoma are the same disease and are, somehow impossible to
distinguish. There is no causal link between mesothelioma and tobacco
smoking. There is a causal link between mesothelioma and exposure to
asbestos.
Post by The Todal
Or at least, the causation will often be doubtful and may depend on
how severe the asbestosis is, and even then the experts will really be
guessing.
No, that's the sort of bollocks that lawyers spout in order to get their
corporate client that failed to implement adequate protection for their
workers off the hook.
The Todal
2011-04-23 08:14:57 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
No, that's hogwash. It may work in a court where one can expect
every participant to be profoundly ignorant of oncology and
epidemiology but the chances of confusing asbestosis with a smoking
related disease are nil.
No, it isn't hogwash, but thanks for the input anyway.
Yes it is hogwash.
Post by The Todal
A person may have asbestosis - caused, of course, by asbestos - and
may also be a heavy smoker, and may develop lung cancer. You cannot
say, as a scientific fact, that the asbestos will then be the cause
of the lung cancer.
You seem to be labouring under the mistaken impression that
mesothelioma, small-cell lung carcinoma and non small-cell lung
carcinoma are the same disease and are, somehow impossible to
distinguish.
I haven't said that at all. I didn't even mention mesothelioma. We were
discussing lung cancer. They are quite different diseases.
Post by unknown
There is no causal link between mesothelioma and tobacco
smoking. There is a causal link between mesothelioma and exposure to
asbestos.
Absolutely right, unquestionably. I don't like arguing when we agree on all
points.
Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Or at least, the causation will often be doubtful and may depend on
how severe the asbestosis is, and even then the experts will really
be guessing.
No, that's the sort of bollocks that lawyers spout in order to get
their corporate client that failed to implement adequate protection
for their workers off the hook.
No, it's all about medical evidence.And the Helsinki criteria.
unknown
2011-04-24 19:19:03 UTC
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Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
No, that's hogwash. It may work in a court where one can expect
every participant to be profoundly ignorant of oncology and
epidemiology but the chances of confusing asbestosis with a smoking
related disease are nil.
No, it isn't hogwash, but thanks for the input anyway.
Yes it is hogwash.
Post by The Todal
A person may have asbestosis - caused, of course, by asbestos - and
may also be a heavy smoker, and may develop lung cancer. You cannot
say, as a scientific fact, that the asbestos will then be the cause
of the lung cancer.
You seem to be labouring under the mistaken impression that
mesothelioma, small-cell lung carcinoma and non small-cell lung
carcinoma are the same disease and are, somehow impossible to
distinguish.
I haven't said that at all. I didn't even mention mesothelioma. We were
discussing lung cancer. They are quite different diseases.
Mesothelioma is a lung cancer. The plurae are as much part of the lungs
as the alveoli or the bronchus.
Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
There is no causal link between mesothelioma and tobacco
smoking. There is a causal link between mesothelioma and exposure to
asbestos.
Absolutely right, unquestionably. I don't like arguing when we agree on all
points.
Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Or at least, the causation will often be doubtful and may depend on
how severe the asbestosis is, and even then the experts will really
be guessing.
No, that's the sort of bollocks that lawyers spout in order to get
their corporate client that failed to implement adequate protection
for their workers off the hook.
No, it's all about medical evidence.And the Helsinki criteria.
The Helsinki criteria have always seemed to me to be corporate
arse-covering. I've a low opinion of the asbestos industry, I have been
too closely linked to it, and have seen too many people die from it to
regard is as other than a cynical bunch of money grubbers who, when
their practices were exposed in Canada then the UK, simply moved
production to the third world and lowered safety standards despite
knowing that the product they were making killed both consumers and
workers.

Anyway, that apart and "like whatever". There are three forms of lung
cancer associated with asbestos, mesothelioma, small-cell and non
small-cell carcinomas. Of these it is only small-cell that is
ambiguously associated with both smoking and asbestos exposure. And even
for this case it is clear that smoking exacerbates the risk that results
from exposure to asbestos.

If someone presents with mesothelioma, non small-cell carcinoma or
small-cell carcinoma with associated plueral plaques and has a history
of asbestos exposure then it is clear that the cause of the carcinoma
was asbestos. That leaves only some cases of small-cell carcinoma that
may be doubtful.

Whereas it is clear that smoking in the absence of asbestos exposure can
lead to small-cell carcinoma that has no link to asbestos, it is also
clear that the occupational exposure to asbestos with or without
exposure to tobacco smoke also causes small-cell carcinoma but at a much
higher rate than in the absence of asbestos. The companies wriggle off
the hook on there claim of ambiguous causation. Yet the shifty, lying
bastards know damn well that their abysmal safety standards have
resulted in countless cases of lung cancer and that asbestos multiplied
the risk of contracting lung cancer by approximately 16 fold in smokers
and closer to 100 fold in non-smokers.

The companies knew from the 1930s onwards that their product caused
cancer - they simply suppressed the research done by their own staff in
order to avoid having to make payments to the diseased and their
dependents.
The Todal
2011-04-24 20:17:31 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
No, that's hogwash. It may work in a court where one can expect
every participant to be profoundly ignorant of oncology and
epidemiology but the chances of confusing asbestosis with a smoking
related disease are nil.
No, it isn't hogwash, but thanks for the input anyway.
Yes it is hogwash.
Post by The Todal
A person may have asbestosis - caused, of course, by asbestos - and
may also be a heavy smoker, and may develop lung cancer. You cannot
say, as a scientific fact, that the asbestos will then be the cause
of the lung cancer.
You seem to be labouring under the mistaken impression that
mesothelioma, small-cell lung carcinoma and non small-cell lung
carcinoma are the same disease and are, somehow impossible to
distinguish.
I haven't said that at all. I didn't even mention mesothelioma. We were
discussing lung cancer. They are quite different diseases.
Mesothelioma is a lung cancer. The plurae are as much part of the lungs
as the alveoli or the bronchus.
I very much doubt that any physician specialising in diseases of the chest
and lungs would describe mesothelioma as a form of lung cancer. They prefer
precision to terms which the layman can understand.

However, the point is perhaps academic. Mesothelioma is a form of cancer
which can be distinguished from other forms of cancer quite easily (though
sometimes only at autopsy) and is almost invariably associated with asbestos
inhalation. Any insurance company trying to argue that the most likely cause
was environmental exposure rather than inhalation from a particular known
source would be wasting his time, as the recent cases of Willmore and
Sienciewicz in the Supreme Court established.
Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
There is no causal link between mesothelioma and tobacco
smoking. There is a causal link between mesothelioma and exposure to
asbestos.
Absolutely right, unquestionably. I don't like arguing when we agree on all
points.
Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Or at least, the causation will often be doubtful and may depend on
how severe the asbestosis is, and even then the experts will really
be guessing.
No, that's the sort of bollocks that lawyers spout in order to get
their corporate client that failed to implement adequate protection
for their workers off the hook.
No, it's all about medical evidence.And the Helsinki criteria.
The Helsinki criteria have always seemed to me to be corporate
arse-covering. I've a low opinion of the asbestos industry, I have been
too closely linked to it, and have seen too many people die from it
From asbestosis and mesothelioma, presumably.

to
Post by unknown
regard is as other than a cynical bunch of money grubbers who, when
their practices were exposed in Canada then the UK, simply moved
production to the third world and lowered safety standards despite
knowing that the product they were making killed both consumers and
workers.
Who in particular? Cape Asbestos, perhaps? Turner and Newall? They made
the asbestos products but nowadays the vast majority of victims were exposed
not in factories and not when manufacturing asbestos products, but when
working as plumbers, carpenters and electricians. And the people being sued
are not asbestos manufacturers or at least only rarely. They are usually
building contractors, shopfitters, local councils, gas companies, water
companies. It isn't very fair to characterise them all as evil.
Post by unknown
Whereas it is clear that smoking in the absence of asbestos exposure can
lead to small-cell carcinoma that has no link to asbestos, it is also
clear that the occupational exposure to asbestos with or without
exposure to tobacco smoke also causes small-cell carcinoma but at a much
higher rate than in the absence of asbestos. The companies wriggle off
the hook on there claim of ambiguous causation.
They wriggle off the hook very rarely. Asbestos claims are generally very
easy for a claimant to win.

It is quite difficult to find reported cases about asbestos-related lung
cancer. Badger v Ministry of Defence was one.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2005/2941.html

The MoD to their credit admitted liability and the main argument was whether
the victim's history of smoking amounted to contributory negligence. The
judge found that it did. The judgment makes interesting reading. Few people
are aware that Enoch Powell was one of the first voices of authority to warn
the public of the link between smoking and lung cancer. But the doctors are
quite sure that smoking cannot cause mesothelioma, as distinct from lung
cancer.
Post by unknown
Yet the shifty, lying
bastards know damn well that their abysmal safety standards have
resulted in countless cases of lung cancer and that asbestos multiplied
the risk of contracting lung cancer by approximately 16 fold in smokers
and closer to 100 fold in non-smokers.
The companies knew from the 1930s onwards that their product caused
cancer - they simply suppressed the research done by their own staff in
order to avoid having to make payments to the diseased and their
dependents.
And all that is probably true, but the real culprits are dead or insolvent
or have pocketed their profits and disappeared. The legacy of disease is now
the responsibility of the organisations I mentioned above, not least the
local authorities. Anyone who contracts mesothelioma is asked to list the
employers who exposed him to asbestos and if there is a local authority
among those employers, it will be the local authority that gets sued and has
to pay the compensation, because the others will usually be long gone.
unknown
2011-04-25 00:31:50 UTC
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Post by The Todal
I very much doubt that any physician specialising in diseases of the chest
and lungs would describe mesothelioma as a form of lung cancer. They prefer
precision to terms which the layman can understand.
You're wrong, and I'm not a layman.
Aaron
2011-04-24 16:06:20 UTC
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Post by unknown
Post by The Todal
Post by unknown
No, that's hogwash. It may work in a court where one can expect every
participant to be profoundly ignorant of oncology and epidemiology but
the chances of confusing asbestosis with a smoking related disease are
nil.
No, it isn't hogwash, but thanks for the input anyway.
Yes it is hogwash.
Post by The Todal
A person may have asbestosis - caused, of course, by asbestos - and may also
be a heavy smoker, and may develop lung cancer. You cannot say, as a
scientific fact, that the asbestos will then be the cause of the lung
cancer.
You seem to be labouring under the mistaken impression that
mesothelioma, small-cell lung carcinoma and non small-cell lung
carcinoma are the same disease and are, somehow impossible to
distinguish. There is no causal link between mesothelioma and tobacco
smoking. There is a causal link between mesothelioma and exposure to
asbestos.
Post by The Todal
Or at least, the causation will often be doubtful and may depend on
how severe the asbestosis is, and even then the experts will really be
guessing.
No, that's the sort of bollocks that lawyers spout in order to get their
corporate client that failed to implement adequate protection for their
workers off the hook.
None of that has any connection to Warren Buckley's claims since his
doctors have stated that despite his fears, he does not have lung
cancer.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-24 16:43:33 UTC
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Post by Aaron
None of that has any connection to Warren Buckley's
claims since his doctors have stated that despite
his fears, he does not have lung cancer.
That's a falsehood, Grand Master Aaron of Holbrook, wherever that is.

Not much of a surprise that Freemasons abuse privacy when they repeat
falsehoods so often.
David
2011-04-24 16:59:49 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 16:43:33 +0000 (UTC), Warren Buckley
Post by Warren Buckley
Post by Aaron
None of that has any connection to Warren Buckley's
claims since his doctors have stated that despite
his fears, he does not have lung cancer.
That's a falsehood, Grand Master Aaron of Holbrook, wherever that is.
Not much of a surprise that Freemasons abuse privacy when they repeat
falsehoods so often.
As said by the master of falsehoods, Warren Buckley.

Aaron is not a Grand Master.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-24 17:13:45 UTC
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Post by David
As said by the master of falsehoods, Warren Buckley.
I try hard to tell the truth.
Post by David
Aaron is not a Grand Master.
You mean Freemasonry does have some quality control? You have a lot of
utter filth in Freemasonry, for example Freemason Brother Keith Exford
(CEO, Affinity Homes Group) and Freemason Brother Rod Dadak (Lawyer, Lewis
Silkin, London), but maybe that's the start of a very long journey?
KIV11
2011-04-24 19:11:43 UTC
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 You have a lot of utter filth in Freemasonry, for example Freemason Brother Keith Exford
(CEO, Affinity Homes Group) and Freemason Brother Rod Dadak (Lawyer, Lewis
Silkin, London), but maybe that's the start of a very long journey?
You can contact Rod Dadak directly at: ***@lewissilkin.com

I'm sure he would be happy to correspond with you since you seem to be
dealing in his area of business expertise.

As his biography states:: "I advise on all defamation issues – libel,
slander and malicious falsehood – and also on privacy and
confidentiality problems. In short, everything which concerns
reputation protection is the field in which I operate. This includes
anything published in the media which includes newspapers, magazines
and broadcasting, and also material on the internet, as well as
“domestic” defamation. Regulatory complaints are also handled in
relation to the PCC (print media) and also to Ofcom (broadcasting)."
Warren Buckley
2011-04-24 20:05:06 UTC
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Brother Rod Dadak as he's a Freemason.
KIV11
2011-04-24 20:13:57 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Brother Rod Dadak as he's a Freemason.
I have no clue as to his being a Freemason or not. I'm sure, if you
had the courage to contact him directly, he would be able to tell you
if what you assume is correct or not.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-24 20:18:39 UTC
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Post by KIV11
I have no clue as to his being a Freemason or not.
You do now: Freemason Brother Rod Dadak.
KIV11
2011-04-24 20:29:57 UTC
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Post by KIV11
I have no clue as to his being a Freemason or not.
You do now:  Freemason Brother Rod Dadak.
According to you and your mysterious Masonic friend. Send the man an e-
mail and end your suposition forever.
KIV11
2011-04-24 20:31:39 UTC
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Post by KIV11
I have no clue as to his being a Freemason or not.
You do now:  Freemason Brother Rod Dadak.
So you must really be a Grand Master yourself, making Masons "at
sight", Quite an accomplishment, congratulations.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-24 23:10:34 UTC
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Post by KIV11
So you must really be a Grand Master yourself, making
Masons "at sight", Quite an accomplishment, congratulations.
Wish I was, but Brother Rod Dadak is a Freemason and partner in the Lewis
Silkin London law firm, so you can ask him.
KIV11
2011-04-25 00:45:06 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by KIV11
So you must really be a Grand Master yourself, making
Masons "at sight", Quite an accomplishment, congratulations.
Why would I ask him anything, I could care less whether he is a
Freemason or not? You are the one who is obsessed with his fraternal
status. If you have a question, you can solve your own problem,
contact the man.
Post by Warren Buckley
Wish I was, but Brother Rod Dadak is a Freemason and partner in the Lewis
Silkin London law firm, so you can ask him.
So, now the truth comes out, you said you wish you were a Freemason.
What happened, did you apply for membership and get blackballed?
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 01:02:51 UTC
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Post by KIV11
So, now the truth comes out,
you said you wish you were a Freemason.
Yes, I've been telling you the truth. Freemason membership would stop your
Masonic harassment, wouldn't it?
Post by KIV11
What happened,
did you apply for membership and get blackballed?
Never applied.
KIV11
2011-04-25 01:17:27 UTC
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Post by KIV11
So, now the truth comes out,
you said you wish you were a Freemason.
Yes, I've been telling you the truth.  Freemason membership would stop your
Masonic harassment, wouldn't it?
Post by KIV11
What happened,
did you apply for membership and get blackballed?
Never applied.
Don't believe you.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 01:45:21 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Post by Warren Buckley
Never applied.
Don't believe you.
I have never applied to be a Freemason.

Do you think everyone is a liar and are you judging by your own standards?
KIV11
2011-04-25 12:18:21 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by KIV11
Post by Warren Buckley
Never applied.
Don't believe you.
I have never applied to be a Freemason.
Do you think everyone is a liar and are you judging by your own standards?
Just taking an example from your play book!
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 15:19:18 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Just taking an example from your play book!
You don't like people reminding you that Freemasonry is a murderous hobby.
David
2011-04-25 00:12:46 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 20:05:06 +0000 (UTC), Warren Buckley
Post by Warren Buckley
Brother Rod Dadak as he's a Freemason.
How do you know?
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 00:54:53 UTC
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Post by David
Post by Warren Buckley
Brother Rod Dadak as he's a Freemason.
How do you know?
A Freemason told me.
David
2011-04-25 09:23:38 UTC
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 00:54:53 +0000 (UTC), Warren Buckley
Post by Warren Buckley
Post by David
Post by Warren Buckley
Brother Rod Dadak as he's a Freemason.
How do you know?
A Freemason told me.
Which Freemason told you? How do you know he is a Freemason and of
what Lodge is he a member?
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 11:45:03 UTC
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Post by David
How do you know he is a Freemason and of
what Lodge is he a member?
How do you verify that someone is a Freemason?
KIV11
2011-04-25 12:19:29 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by David
How do you know he is a Freemason and of
what Lodge is he a member?
How do you verify that someone is a Freemason?
Ask to see his dues card and then ask him which lodge he belongs to.
That's pretty simple stuff, even for you.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 15:22:55 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Ask to see his dues card and then ask him which lodge he belongs to.
Please may I see your dues card and which lodge do you belong to?
KIV11
2011-04-25 16:14:56 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by KIV11
Ask to see his dues card and then ask him which lodge he belongs to.
Please may I see your dues card and which lodge do you belong to?
Sure, hop on a plane and I'll meet you at JFK International Airport.
I'll be the one with a Masonic pin in my lapel.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 19:05:20 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Sure, hop on a plane and I'll meet you at JFK International Airport.
Looking forward to it. Is it okay if we until Fall because I don't like
the hot weather in my own country?
Post by KIV11
I'll be the one with a Masonic pin in my lapel.
I'll need a bit more than that to identify you.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-25 18:58:54 UTC
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Travel to where I live and I would be happy to show
you mine and tell you my Lodge.
Where do you live?
Can't wait to see you in person.
You don't know me. When I give a fireside talk, the fire goes out.
David
2011-04-25 21:50:35 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Post by Warren Buckley
Post by David
How do you know he is a Freemason and of
what Lodge is he a member?
How do you verify that someone is a Freemason?
Ask to see his dues card and then ask him which lodge he belongs to.
That's pretty simple stuff, even for you.
No dues cards in England. That is an American invention.
Warren Buckley
2011-04-26 00:04:01 UTC
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Post by David
No dues cards in England. That is an American invention.
Maybe Freemasons in England, maybe Europe, have fewer standards than in
Australia and the US?
unknown
2011-04-24 19:19:03 UTC
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Post by Aaron
None of that has any connection to Warren Buckley's claims since his
doctors have stated that despite his fears, he does not have lung
cancer.
I have bugger all interest in Warren Buckley or any of his claims. He
seems to be a complete fruit loop.
Tom Accuosti
2011-04-21 17:31:00 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
You said it.
Yes, I did.
Problem?


Zim: "I put the fires out."
Red Tallest: "You made them worse."
Zim: "Worse? Or *better*?"
--
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Warren Buckley
2011-04-21 19:27:55 UTC
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Post by Tom Accuosti
Post by Warren Buckley
Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
You said it.
Yes, I did.
You said the reason "Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung
cancer" is "it works much better than giving them ice cream."
Post by Tom Accuosti
Problem?
You're not joking, are you?
hamilton
2011-04-22 02:05:57 UTC
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Post by Warren Buckley
Post by Tom Accuosti
Post by Warren Buckley
Why do Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung cancer?
Because it works much better than giving them ice cream.
You said it.
Yes, I did.
You said the reason "Freemasons use asbestos to give their victims lung
cancer" is "it works much better than giving them ice cream."
Post by Tom Accuosti
Problem?
You're not joking, are you?
You are believing, aren't you.

Sad, so, so sad.

h
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 08:27:25 UTC
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Post by hamilton
You are believing, aren't you.
Yes.
Post by hamilton
Sad, so, so sad.
This is Masonic values in action, isn't it? Freemasons don't believe in
charity.
Derek G.
2011-04-22 11:57:39 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC), Warren Buckley
Post by Warren Buckley
Post by hamilton
You are believing, aren't you.
Yes.
Post by hamilton
Sad, so, so sad.
This is Masonic values in action, isn't it? Freemasons don't believe in
charity.
Except they do.

Lodges raise money and contribute and in addition a commitment to
making personal contributions is to all intents and purposes
compulsory.

As an example, lodges have contributed to the cost of lifeboats etc
for the direct benefit of the community in general.

Derek G
Warren Buckley
2011-04-22 19:42:45 UTC
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Post by Derek G.
As an example, lodges have contributed to the cost of lifeboats
etc for the direct benefit of the community in general.
You made me laugh.

The UK's RNLI - Royal National Lifeboat Institution - is a Freemason
controlled charity, see Martin Short's Inside the Brotherhood (further
secrets of the Freemasons), page 611.

"In 1980 Grand Lodge gave £300,000 to the Royal National Lifeboat
Institution to build a lifeboat. The Duchess of Kent was duly launched in
1982 by the Duchess of Kent. It was no coincidence that the RNLI President
is England's Grand Master, the Duke of Kent."

As a teenager, I worked in a "club" adjacent to the North Sea. During the
winter we hosted "functions," parties for local businesses. The most
expensive of these was the British RNLI, Royal National Lifeboat
Institution.

I vowed then and there never to give any money to this so-called charity.
So it did not come as much of a surprise to learn that RNLI is a Masonic
organisation and, obviously, as I am being harassed by Freemasons, no RNLI
boat will ever save my life. Contrary to popular belief, Freemasons like to
keep their "charity" in house, which means they only give to Masonic
"charities."
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