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Fidel Castro is Dead
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Phi
2016-11-26 07:53:25 UTC
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Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.

A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.

Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.

But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.

Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.

After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.

Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.

He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.

He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.

Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
burfordTjustice
2016-11-26 12:01:25 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
The Todal
2016-11-26 23:20:00 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
A dead Fidel Castro and a living Donald Trump? You are fucking joking.
Vidcapper
2016-11-27 08:19:07 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
A dead Fidel Castro and a living Donald Trump? You are fucking joking.
Why - we *know* what Castro did, whereas anything about what Trump will
do is just speculation.
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
pullgees
2016-11-27 08:26:35 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
A dead Fidel Castro and a living Donald Trump? You are fucking joking.
Oh how the left lionise communist butchers who hate free speach and want to control every aspect of peoples lives. And why not it's the only way any Marxist ideology can work.
The Todal
2016-11-27 12:44:19 UTC
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Post by burfordTjustice
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
A dead Fidel Castro and a living Donald Trump? You are fucking joking.
Oh how the left lionise communist butchers who hate free speach and want to control every aspect of peoples lives. And why not it's the only way any Marxist ideology can work.
Oh how the right like to pretend that they care about civil liberties
and detention without trial and waterboarding, whenever we're talking
about communist countries rather than the good ole redneck US of A.

And why not, it's the only thing that props up capitalism.
pullgees
2016-11-27 13:38:01 UTC
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Post by burfordTjustice
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
A dead Fidel Castro and a living Donald Trump? You are fucking joking.
Oh how the left lionise communist butchers who hate free speach and want to control every aspect of peoples lives. And why not it's the only way any Marxist ideology can work.
Oh how the right like to pretend that they care about civil liberties
and detention without trial and waterboarding, whenever we're talking
about communist countries rather than the good ole redneck US of A.
And why not, it's the only thing that props up capitalism.
But it doesn't prop up our system it undermines it. But Communism can't survive without suppressing the masses. If you haven't learned that by now you are severely blinkered and would have served well as one of Stalin's "useful idiots".
The Todal
2016-11-28 12:17:50 UTC
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Post by burfordTjustice
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
A dead Fidel Castro and a living Donald Trump? You are fucking joking.
Oh how the left lionise communist butchers who hate free speach and want to control every aspect of peoples lives. And why not it's the only way any Marxist ideology can work.
Oh how the right like to pretend that they care about civil liberties
and detention without trial and waterboarding, whenever we're talking
about communist countries rather than the good ole redneck US of A.
And why not, it's the only thing that props up capitalism.
But it doesn't prop up our system it undermines it. But Communism can't survive without suppressing the masses. If you haven't learned that by now you are severely blinkered and would have served well as one of Stalin's "useful idiots".
Democracy also suppresses the masses. It tolerates slightly more freedom
of speech but is perfectly capable of revoking all rights and punishing
those who dissent. If you haven't learned that by now, it doesn't matter
at all because so long as you behave yourself you won't be arrested.

http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2003/10/07/usa-patriot-act-violates-our-civil-liberties/
pullgees
2016-11-28 13:53:23 UTC
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Post by burfordTjustice
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 07:53:25 -0000
Post by Phi
has died,
The world is a little bit better now.
A dead Fidel Castro and a living Donald Trump? You are fucking joking.
Oh how the left lionise communist butchers who hate free speach and want to control every aspect of peoples lives. And why not it's the only way any Marxist ideology can work.
Oh how the right like to pretend that they care about civil liberties
and detention without trial and waterboarding, whenever we're talking
about communist countries rather than the good ole redneck US of A.
And why not, it's the only thing that props up capitalism.
But it doesn't prop up our system it undermines it. But Communism can't survive without suppressing the masses. If you haven't learned that by now you are severely blinkered and would have served well as one of Stalin's "useful idiots".
Democracy also suppresses the masses. It tolerates slightly more freedom
of speech but is perfectly capable of revoking all rights and punishing
those who dissent. If you haven't learned that by now, it doesn't matter
at all because so long as you behave yourself you won't be arrested.
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2003/10/07/usa-patriot-act-violates-our-civil-liberties/
When you use the phrase "slightly more freedom" it demonstrates your real admiration for a communist state such as Cuba and how you seek to mollify the repression of the Cuban people by a dictator who lived in luxury while his people lived in dire poverty and faced the harshest of treatment for dissent. But never mind they were just "flaws.
pullgees
2016-11-26 14:08:52 UTC
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Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.
A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.
Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.
But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.
Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.
After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.
Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.
He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.
He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.
Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
A major player that almost caused WW3.
harry
2016-11-27 08:05:34 UTC
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Post by Phi
Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.
A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.
Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.
But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.
Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.
After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.
Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.
He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.
He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.
Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
pullgees
2016-11-27 08:21:17 UTC
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Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.
A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.
Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.
But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.
Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.
After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.
Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.
He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.
He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.
Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Handsome Jack
2016-11-27 11:49:08 UTC
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A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US
soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Turkey has hosted NATO missile bases since the 1950s, at a time it had a
*land* border with the USSR. Strangely enough it wasn't accused of
trying to start Armageddon.

Because *they* were *good* missiles. They were peace-loving missiles.
Kind to animals and generous to the poor. The sort of missiles that
Jesus would have been happy to fire off.
--
Jack
The Todal
2016-11-27 12:47:59 UTC
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A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US
soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Turkey has hosted NATO missile bases since the 1950s, at a time it had a
*land* border with the USSR. Strangely enough it wasn't accused of
trying to start Armageddon.
Because *they* were *good* missiles. They were peace-loving missiles.
Kind to animals and generous to the poor. The sort of missiles that
Jesus would have been happy to fire off.
Well said.

Imagine if the Soviets had said "remove your missiles from Turkish soil
or we'll launch nukes at you". What would have happened then?

To avoid thermonuclear war, the sensible people always have to back down
when confronted by trigger-happy madmen.
pullgees
2016-11-27 13:41:14 UTC
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A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US
soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Turkey has hosted NATO missile bases since the 1950s, at a time it had a
*land* border with the USSR. Strangely enough it wasn't accused of
trying to start Armageddon.
Because *they* were *good* missiles. They were peace-loving missiles.
Kind to animals and generous to the poor. The sort of missiles that
Jesus would have been happy to fire off.
Well said.
Imagine if the Soviets had said "remove your missiles from Turkish soil
or we'll launch nukes at you". What would have happened then?
To avoid thermonuclear war, the sensible people always have to back down
when confronted by trigger-happy madmen.
Just apologist clap trap. The US did remove it's missiles from Turkey.
harry
2016-11-27 16:56:48 UTC
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A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US
soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Turkey has hosted NATO missile bases since the 1950s, at a time it had a
*land* border with the USSR. Strangely enough it wasn't accused of
trying to start Armageddon.
Because *they* were *good* missiles. They were peace-loving missiles.
Kind to animals and generous to the poor. The sort of missiles that
Jesus would have been happy to fire off.
Well said.
Imagine if the Soviets had said "remove your missiles from Turkish soil
or we'll launch nukes at you". What would have happened then?
To avoid thermonuclear war, the sensible people always have to back down
when confronted by trigger-happy madmen.
Just apologist clap trap. The US did remove it's missiles from Turkey.
As part of a deal to remove the nukes from Cuba.
Handsome Jack
2016-11-27 17:02:36 UTC
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A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US
soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Turkey has hosted NATO missile bases since the 1950s, at a time it had a
*land* border with the USSR. Strangely enough it wasn't accused of
trying to start Armageddon.
Because *they* were *good* missiles. They were peace-loving missiles.
Kind to animals and generous to the poor. The sort of missiles that
Jesus would have been happy to fire off.
Well said.
Imagine if the Soviets had said "remove your missiles from Turkish soil
or we'll launch nukes at you". What would have happened then?
To avoid thermonuclear war, the sensible people always have to back down
when confronted by trigger-happy madmen.
Just apologist clap trap. The US did remove it's missiles from Turkey.
Yes, about a year *after* the Russians removed theirs from Cuba (or
rather after they agreed not to put any there). So the USA's (and
Turkey's) behaviour in terms of war-mongering was *worse* than the
USSR's or Cuba's, when any objective attempt is made to understand
events.

But of course being objective takes a little thought. Much easier to
think with your spinal cord and chant "apologist, apologist."
--
Jack
pullgees
2016-11-27 18:39:01 UTC
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A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US
soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Turkey has hosted NATO missile bases since the 1950s, at a time it had a
*land* border with the USSR. Strangely enough it wasn't accused of
trying to start Armageddon.
Because *they* were *good* missiles. They were peace-loving missiles.
Kind to animals and generous to the poor. The sort of missiles that
Jesus would have been happy to fire off.
Well said.
Imagine if the Soviets had said "remove your missiles from Turkish soil
or we'll launch nukes at you". What would have happened then?
To avoid thermonuclear war, the sensible people always have to back down
when confronted by trigger-happy madmen.
Just apologist clap trap. The US did remove it's missiles from Turkey.
Yes, about a year *after* the Russians removed theirs from Cuba (or
rather after they agreed not to put any there). So the USA's (and
Turkey's) behaviour in terms of war-mongering was *worse* than the
USSR's or Cuba's, when any objective attempt is made to understand
events.
But of course being objective takes a little thought. Much easier to
think with your spinal cord and chant "apologist, apologist."
--
Jack
Todal though is attempting as always to find excuses for the excesses of Communists states and yes he is an apologist, of the Ken Livingstone ilk. I'm not sure what your stance is on Castro, but it seems you think the missile crisis was nothing to do with him at all.
The Todal
2016-11-28 12:21:46 UTC
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Todal though is attempting as always to find excuses for the excesses of Communists states and yes he is an apologist, of the Ken Livingstone ilk. I'm not sure what your stance is on Castro, but it seems you think the missile crisis was nothing to do with him at all.
I have never attempted to find excuses for the excesses of Communist
states.

Are you now or have you ever been dyslexic?
pullgees
2016-11-28 13:58:10 UTC
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Todal though is attempting as always to find excuses for the excesses of Communists states and yes he is an apologist, of the Ken Livingstone ilk. I'm not sure what your stance is on Castro, but it seems you think the missile crisis was nothing to do with him at all.
I have never attempted to find excuses for the excesses of Communist
states.
Are you now or have you ever been dyslexic?
Well you just have above. The thing is you have such admiration for the "revolutionary hero" you have developed a blind spot. Has it even occurred to you why Castro out lasted seven US presidents?
Handsome Jack
2016-11-28 14:53:07 UTC
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Todal though is attempting as always to find excuses for the
excesses of Communists states and yes he is an apologist, of the Ken
Livingstone ilk. I'm not sure what your stance is on Castro, but it
seems you think the missile crisis was nothing to do with him at all.
I have never attempted to find excuses for the excesses of Communist
states.
Are you now or have you ever been dyslexic?
Well you just have above. The thing is you have such admiration for the
"revolutionary hero" you have developed a blind spot. Has it even
occurred to you why Castro out lasted seven US presidents?
Largely because the CIA's many attempts to murder him all failed.
--
Jack
The Todal
2016-11-28 16:26:12 UTC
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Todal though is attempting as always to find excuses for the excesses of Communists states and yes he is an apologist, of the Ken Livingstone ilk. I'm not sure what your stance is on Castro, but it seems you think the missile crisis was nothing to do with him at all.
I have never attempted to find excuses for the excesses of Communist
states.
Are you now or have you ever been dyslexic?
Well you just have above.
Rubbish. I haven't made "excuses" for any "excesses". You're inventing
stuff.
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The thing is you have such admiration for the "revolutionary hero" you have developed a blind spot. Has it even occurred to you why Castro out lasted seven US presidents?
I don't admire Castro and never have done. I have been indifferent to
him. He hasn't featured much in any political discussions in the UK. Of
course, in the USA they have an obsession with Castro because for all
their military might they couldn't depose him from office. They cocked
up the Bay of Pigs putsch, and their embargo on Cuban cigars was
generally evaded by rich Americans.

Let's not pretend that America was motivated by compassion for the
ordinary Cubans. America is never motivated by compassion. It is
motivated by the need to control its neighbours so that they do what
America wants.

I'm willing to feel sorry for the citizens of Cuba, of course. But what
does that achieve? Nobody with any brain was ever suggesting that there
should be a Coalition of the Willing to invade Cuba. No, let's focus on
improving the United States of America, a country where black people get
shot when a police officer is annoyed with them, where black people are
more likely to go to prison or be executed than white people, and where
American criminal law attorneys can't be bothered to put forward a
proper defence and sometimes fall asleep in court, safe in the knowledge
that they can't be sued by a client who is serving 99 years in gaol or
has been executed by the state.

Go on, tell me that these points are "excuses" for the excesses of
Communist Cuba.
pullgees
2016-11-28 22:09:17 UTC
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Todal though is attempting as always to find excuses for the excesses of Communists states and yes he is an apologist, of the Ken Livingstone ilk. I'm not sure what your stance is on Castro, but it seems you think the missile crisis was nothing to do with him at all.
I have never attempted to find excuses for the excesses of Communist
states.
Are you now or have you ever been dyslexic?
Well you just have above.
Rubbish. I haven't made "excuses" for any "excesses". You're inventing
stuff.
Post by pullgees
The thing is you have such admiration for the "revolutionary hero" you have developed a blind spot. Has it even occurred to you why Castro out lasted seven US presidents?
I don't admire Castro and never have done. I have been indifferent to
him. He hasn't featured much in any political discussions in the UK. Of
course, in the USA they have an obsession with Castro because for all
their military might they couldn't depose him from office. They cocked
up the Bay of Pigs putsch, and their embargo on Cuban cigars was
generally evaded by rich Americans.
Let's not pretend that America was motivated by compassion for the
ordinary Cubans. America is never motivated by compassion. It is
motivated by the need to control its neighbours so that they do what
America wants.
I'm willing to feel sorry for the citizens of Cuba, of course. But what
does that achieve? Nobody with any brain was ever suggesting that there
should be a Coalition of the Willing to invade Cuba. No, let's focus on
improving the United States of America, a country where black people get
shot when a police officer is annoyed with them, where black people are
more likely to go to prison or be executed than white people, and where
American criminal law attorneys can't be bothered to put forward a
proper defence and sometimes fall asleep in court, safe in the knowledge
that they can't be sued by a client who is serving 99 years in gaol or
has been executed by the state.
Go on, tell me that these points are "excuses" for the excesses of
Communist Cuba.
Absolutely they are. All you have done is tried put Castro in a better light by scouring for faults in the USA. It's an old ploy used by enemies of a state and was used by the Soviet Union, a favourite line of propaganda in the cold war. BTW I don't believe your abnegation on Castro.
pullgees
2016-11-27 13:34:15 UTC
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A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US
soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
Turkey has hosted NATO missile bases since the 1950s, at a time it had a
*land* border with the USSR. Strangely enough it wasn't accused of
trying to start Armageddon.
Because *they* were *good* missiles. They were peace-loving missiles.
Kind to animals and generous to the poor. The sort of missiles that
Jesus would have been happy to fire off.
--
Jack
I didn't say Castro was the cause of the Cuban Missile Crisis, he was though a major contributor.
harry
2016-11-27 16:55:19 UTC
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Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.
A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.
Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.
But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.
Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.
After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.
Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.
He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.
He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.
Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
The USA deployed nuclear weapons in Turkey.
So, hardly surprising the USSR deployed similar in Cuba.
pullgees
2016-11-27 18:27:34 UTC
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Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.
A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.
Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.
But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.
Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.
After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.
Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.
He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.
He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.
Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
The USA deployed nuclear weapons in Turkey.
So, hardly surprising the USSR deployed similar in Cuba.
Again I'm not arguing that, doesn't alter the fact that Castro was a major participant in that crisis.
harry
2016-11-29 07:46:00 UTC
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Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.
A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.
Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.
But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.
Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.
After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.
Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.
He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.
He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.
Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
The USA deployed nuclear weapons in Turkey.
So, hardly surprising the USSR deployed similar in Cuba.
Again I'm not arguing that, doesn't alter the fact that Castro was a major participant in that crisis.
But the USA was worse. Much worse.
Interference/invasion of virtually every nearby country plus the Middle East.
And it was all to support the rich American elite.
pullgees
2016-11-29 08:12:25 UTC
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Fidel Castro, the Cuban revolutionary leader who built a communist state on
the doorstep of the United States and for five decades defied U.S. efforts
to topple him, has died, Cuban television said on Saturday. He was 90.
A lawyer who became a Marxist guerrilla, Fidel Castro survived numerous
assassination plots by US intelligence services including one extraordinary
plan to poison his cigar.
Castro - rarely seen in public without his trademark military fatigues and
cap - was famous for long rambling speeches filled with historical
references.
But despite the fact these speeches would often drag on for hours, thousands
would turn out to hear their leader.
Born in Biran, Cuba, into a wealthy farming family, he was educated at
Jesuit schools before studying law at the University of Havana.
After working as a lawyer for three years, he planned to stand for
Parliament in 1952, but the Government was overthrown in a coup staged by
General Fulgenco Batista.
Castro accused the US-backed Batista of violating the constitution and led
an attack on his Moncada Barracks in the Oriente province.
He was taken prisoner and jailed for 15 years, but was released in a general
amnesty in 1955 before going into exile in Mexico and the US.
He later returned to Cuba with just 12 men, including Argentinian-born
revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara, and fought a guerrilla battle against
Batista's forces before eventually toppling him in 1959.
Within months he had embraced the former Soviet Union and fallen out with
the US, seizing American-owned property and companies in Cuba.
A major player that almost caused WW3.
That was Kennedy.
So Castro who deployed Russian nuclear weapons 90miles away fron US soil was not a major player in what was almost amageddon?
The USA deployed nuclear weapons in Turkey.
So, hardly surprising the USSR deployed similar in Cuba.
Again I'm not arguing that, doesn't alter the fact that Castro was a major participant in that crisis.
But the USA was worse. Much worse.
Interference/invasion of virtually every nearby country plus the Middle East.
And it was all to support the rich American elite.
Rearing away from Castro discussion, yes America and Russia had many proxy wars and third world meddling.
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