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"Academic": Phrases like "bring home the bacon" are offensive to animal-rights wackos
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Byker
2018-12-03 23:36:00 UTC
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Academic Claims Phrases Like ‘Bring Home The Bacon’ Will Go Out Of Fashion
To Avoid Offending Vegans

Phrases such as 'to flog a dead horse' could go the way of the dodo, she
says

By MILES DILWORTH
2 December 2018

The growing popularity of veganism could lead to a cull of meat and dairy
sayings, an academic has claimed.

Phrases such as 'bring home the bacon' and 'killing two birds with one
stone' will go out of fashion to avoid offending animal lovers, according to
Shareena Hamzah of Swansea University.

She cited guidance from Peta, the animal rights charity, which wants people
to replace expressions such as 'take the bull by the horns' with 'take the
flower by the thorns'.

Dr Hamzah said the influence of veganism will raise awareness of animal
cruelty and push people towards using less meaty metaphors.

'If veganism forces us to confront the realities of food's origins, then
this increased awareness will undoubtedly be reflected in our language and
literature,' she said.

'The increased awareness of vegan issues will filter through our
consciousness to produce new modes of expression.'

But Dr Hamzah said it was unlikely such phrases would be cut out of the
linguistic diet altogether, and their more sparing use could in fact
heighten their impact.

She said: 'The image of 'killing two birds with one stone' is, if anything,
made more powerful by the animal-friendly alternative of 'feeding two birds
with one scone'.'

Peta also wants to replace the phrase 'to flog a dead horse' with 'to feed a
fed horse'.

Likewise, 'more than one way to skin a cat' should become 'more than one way
to peel a potato', it says.

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The Marquis Saint Evremonde
2018-12-04 09:22:37 UTC
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Peta also wants to replace the phrase 'to flog a dead horse' with 'to feed a
fed horse'.
Likewise, 'more than one way to skin a cat' should become 'more than one way
to peel a potato', it says.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6452691/Academic-claims-phrases
-like-bring-home-bacon-fashion-avoid-offending-vegans.html
Whenever I go into the local Cats Protection League charity shop, I
remark casually to the old lady at the desk, "Bit cramped in here, isn't
it? In fact there's barely room to swing a cat."

And when driving around, I'm always looking out for a disused "Cats Eyes
Removed" road sign, so I can donate it to the shop.
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The Marquis Saint Evremonde
Incubus
2018-12-04 11:20:25 UTC
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Academic Claims Phrases Like ‘Bring Home The Bacon’ Will Go Out Of Fashion
To Avoid Offending Vegans
But are vegans oppressed enough to warrant such treatment? Most, like me, are
white and Middle Class and are therefore the oppressors...
Siri Cruise
2018-12-04 13:51:23 UTC
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Academic Claims Phrases Like ‘Bring Home The Bacon’ Will Go Out Of Fashion
To Avoid Offending Vegans
But are vegans oppressed enough to warrant such treatment? Most, like me, are
white and Middle Class and are therefore the oppressors...
Thank you. White middle class vegans--you're allowed to oppress them.

Can you smell the bacon, bacon, and bacon salad I'm holding next to my screen?
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An almond doesn't lactate. This post / \
Yet another supercilious snowflake for justice. insults Islam. Mohammed
Wally W.
2018-12-04 12:32:34 UTC
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Academic Claims Phrases Like ‘Bring Home The Bacon’ Will Go Out Of Fashion
To Avoid Offending Vegans
Phrases such as 'to flog a dead horse' could go the way of the dodo, she
says
By MILES DILWORTH
2 December 2018
The growing popularity of veganism could lead to a cull of meat and dairy
sayings, an academic has claimed.
Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.
Phrases such as 'bring home the bacon' and 'killing two birds with one
stone' will go out of fashion to avoid offending animal lovers, according to
Shareena Hamzah of Swansea University.
She cited guidance from Peta, the animal rights charity, which wants people
to replace expressions such as 'take the bull by the horns' with 'take the
flower by the thorns'.
... because how else would one wrestle a flower to the ground?
Dr Hamzah said the influence of veganism will raise awareness of animal
cruelty and push people towards using less meaty metaphors.
'If veganism forces us to confront the realities of food's origins,
Is there something wrong with food's origins?

To paraphrase Alf, "Salad isn't food, salad is what food eats."
then
this increased awareness will undoubtedly be reflected in our language and
literature,' she said.
'The increased awareness of vegan issues will filter through our
consciousness to produce new modes of expression.'
But Dr Hamzah said it was unlikely such phrases would be cut out of the
linguistic diet altogether, and their more sparing use could in fact
heighten their impact.
She said: 'The image of 'killing two birds with one stone' is, if anything,
made more powerful by the animal-friendly alternative of 'feeding two birds
with one scone'.'
Pure bullshit. Or do cat-huggers want to deny the origins of *used*
food?

"killing two birds" is about eliminating multiple problems with
minimal resources.

"feeding two birds" uses resources and the birds remain, and possibly
breed.

Points (a gold star, and possibly an invitation to a group hug) for
rhyming, but none for preserving the meaning of the phrase.
Peta also wants to replace the phrase 'to flog a dead horse' with 'to feed a
fed horse'.
Again, no points for preserving the meaning of the phrase.
Likewise, 'more than one way to skin a cat' should become 'more than one way
to peel a potato', it says.
No, it *should* not.
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Incubus
2018-12-04 12:38:01 UTC
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Now wait just a cotton-pickin' minute…
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Academic Claims Phrases Like ‘Bring Home The Bacon’ Will Go Out Of Fashion
To Avoid Offending Vegans
Phrases such as 'to flog a dead horse' could go the way of the dodo, she
says
By MILES DILWORTH
2 December 2018
The growing popularity of veganism could lead to a cull of meat and dairy
sayings, an academic has claimed.
Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.
I sometimes wonder if all these proposed changes to what we say are there to
distract us from the real issues. While people are busy focussing on all the
thin end of the wedges, the real problems are overlooked.
STO...
2018-12-04 12:47:45 UTC
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Post by Byker
Now wait just a cotton-pickin' minute…
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Academic Claims Phrases Like ‘Bring Home The Bacon’ Will Go Out Of Fashion
To Avoid Offending Vegans
Phrases such as 'to flog a dead horse' could go the way of the dodo, she
says
By MILES DILWORTH
2 December 2018
The growing popularity of veganism could lead to a cull of meat and dairy
sayings, an academic has claimed.
Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.
Post by Byker
Phrases such as 'bring home the bacon' and 'killing two birds with one
stone' will go out of fashion to avoid offending animal lovers, according to
Shareena Hamzah of Swansea University.
She cited guidance from Peta, the animal rights charity, which wants people
to replace expressions such as 'take the bull by the horns' with 'take the
flower by the thorns'.
... because how else would one wrestle a flower to the ground?
Post by Byker
Dr Hamzah said the influence of veganism will raise awareness of animal
cruelty and push people towards using less meaty metaphors.
'If veganism forces us to confront the realities of food's origins,
Is there something wrong with food's origins?
To paraphrase Alf, "Salad isn't food, salad is what food eats."
Post by Byker
then
this increased awareness will undoubtedly be reflected in our language and
literature,' she said.
'The increased awareness of vegan issues will filter through our
consciousness to produce new modes of expression.'
But Dr Hamzah said it was unlikely such phrases would be cut out of the
linguistic diet altogether, and their more sparing use could in fact
heighten their impact.
She said: 'The image of 'killing two birds with one stone' is, if anything,
made more powerful by the animal-friendly alternative of 'feeding two birds
with one scone'.'
Pure bullshit. Or do cat-huggers want to deny the origins of *used*
food?
"killing two birds" is about eliminating multiple problems with
minimal resources.
"feeding two birds" uses resources and the birds remain, and possibly
breed.
Points (a gold star, and possibly an invitation to a group hug) for
rhyming, but none for preserving the meaning of the phrase.
Post by Byker
Peta also wants to replace the phrase 'to flog a dead horse' with 'to feed a
fed horse'.
Again, no points for preserving the meaning of the phrase.
Post by Byker
Likewise, 'more than one way to skin a cat' should become 'more than one way
to peel a potato', it says.
No, it *should* not.
Post by Byker
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In the United States they have a RIGHT to feel offended.... But they
don't have a RIGHT to NOT be offended.

If someone is offended it's their perception that is the problem so they
can continue to be offended or they can decide that what ever it is
doesn't offend them, it's simply their own decision.
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That's Karma
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-12-04 13:20:04 UTC
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Fire the proton torpedoes-Then BeamMeUpScotty-There's NO sign of
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Now wait just a cotton-pickin' minute…
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Academic Claims Phrases Like ‘Bring Home The Bacon’ Will Go Out Of Fashion
To Avoid Offending Vegans
Phrases such as 'to flog a dead horse' could go the way of the dodo, she
says
By MILES DILWORTH
2 December 2018
The growing popularity of veganism could lead to a cull of meat and dairy
sayings, an academic has claimed.
Some people clearly have too much time on their hands.
Post by Byker
Phrases such as 'bring home the bacon' and 'killing two birds with one
stone' will go out of fashion to avoid offending animal lovers, according to
Shareena Hamzah of Swansea University.
She cited guidance from Peta, the animal rights charity, which wants people
to replace expressions such as 'take the bull by the horns' with 'take the
flower by the thorns'.
... because how else would one wrestle a flower to the ground?
Post by Byker
Dr Hamzah said the influence of veganism will raise awareness of animal
cruelty and push people towards using less meaty metaphors.
'If veganism forces us to confront the realities of food's origins,
Is there something wrong with food's origins?
To paraphrase Alf, "Salad isn't food, salad is what food eats."
Post by Byker
then
this increased awareness will undoubtedly be reflected in our language and
literature,' she said.
'The increased awareness of vegan issues will filter through our
consciousness to produce new modes of expression.'
But Dr Hamzah said it was unlikely such phrases would be cut out of the
linguistic diet altogether, and their more sparing use could in fact
heighten their impact.
She said: 'The image of 'killing two birds with one stone' is, if anything,
made more powerful by the animal-friendly alternative of 'feeding two birds
with one scone'.'
Pure bullshit. Or do cat-huggers want to deny the origins of *used*
food?
"killing two birds" is about eliminating multiple problems with
minimal resources.
"feeding two birds" uses resources and the birds remain, and possibly
breed.
Points (a gold star, and possibly an invitation to a group hug) for
rhyming, but none for preserving the meaning of the phrase.
Post by Byker
Peta also wants to replace the phrase 'to flog a dead horse' with 'to feed a
fed horse'.
Again, no points for preserving the meaning of the phrase.
Post by Byker
Likewise, 'more than one way to skin a cat' should become 'more than one way
to peel a potato', it says.
No, it *should* not.
Post by Byker
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In the United States they have a RIGHT to feel offended.... But they
don't have a RIGHT to NOT be offended.
If someone is offended it's their perception that is the problem so they
can continue to be offended or they can decide that what ever it is
doesn't offend them, it's simply their own decision.
I believe it's a clash of American vs. European principles - Liberty vs.
Civility. Or something like that.
Joe
2018-12-04 13:37:49 UTC
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I believe it's a clash of American vs. European principles - Liberty
vs. Civility. Or something like that.
No, not all Americans are complete nutters, though I think the ones who
are put ours to shame. Don't anyone ever suggest a Nutter Olympics...
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Joe
Byker
2018-12-04 17:54:29 UTC
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I believe it's a clash of American vs. European principles
Maybe dog meat would sound more palatable if it was sold as "Phydeaux":

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Byker
2018-12-04 17:54:18 UTC
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Is there something wrong with food's origins?
Coming to a restaurant near you: https://tinyurl.com/y8nu6p2t
Mr. B1ack
2018-12-04 18:37:00 UTC
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Is there something wrong with food's origins?
Coming to a restaurant near you: https://tinyurl.com/y8nu6p2t
ByKKKer gets sucked in by fake news once again. His *own source* proves it.

So what are the origins of this story? A press release from Tokyo
Sewage, perhaps? Oh no, why rely on credible, traceable information
when you can go directly to YouTube and find a 2-minute video that
vaguely resembles a news report, of sorts. The video takes place in
Professor Ikeda’s lab. It shows him concocting the dubious meat
substitute, and includes an interview with the seemingly earnest
scientist complete with complex sciency diagrams and white lab coats. At
first viewing, it seems legit. Watch more closely though, and you’ll
spot labels on a fridge and packets of the fecal meat that literally
read SHIT BURGER – an indication that something fishy is going on. Watch
even more closely and it gets increasingly dubious. The end of the video
features footage of the façade of a building with a banner across the
front. One is led to believe that this is where the poop is being
transformed into, um, dinner. Why then, is the text on the banner in
Chinese not Japanese?

According to Salon, all the news sites relied solely on this YouTube
video for their source material. It was uploaded first by “ahscotty” in
October 2010, then uploaded again in April 2011 by “ill318,” this time
titled “Solution to the Global Food Crisis- Let them eat TURD BURGERS”.
In June, the blog Inhabitat picked up the story, which was then re-
written by Digital Trends. A syndicated version of the piece was
published by Yahoo- and the story took off like wildfire.

This is why YouTube is *NEVER* a valid supporting source for any claim made
in Usenet. If you want to post a link to YouTube because you think the
video is interesting or entertaining, that's fine; but it is never
acceptable as supporting documentation for a claim.

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