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Freemason police officer guilty of sexual grooming
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Pilotiin
2011-07-06 03:22:03 UTC
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Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls. Brother
Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.

A Freemason police sergeant has been found guilty of raping two young
girls 36 years ago when he was babysitting them.

Brother Paul Greig of Armadale, 51, denied raping the sisters at a house
in West Lothian between 1974 and 1975.

The Lothian and Borders Freemason police officer had also denied
indecent behaviour with the girls over the same period.

A jury at the High Court in Edinburgh returned a majority verdict on two
charges of rape and two of indecent practices against the girls.

Brother Paul Greig will be sentenced on 10 August.

One of his victims was aged between eight and nine and the other between
six and seven at the time.

Victims 'terrified'

Giving evidence during a week-long trial, the women, now in their 40s,
described how Brother Greig threatened them that if they told anyone
what was happening their dad would go to jail and they would be sent to
a home.

Despite being bathed and put in their pyjamas by their mother before she
left, the women said Freemason Greig would give them another bath and
then sexually abused and raped them.

The women said they had been terrified.

The offences were not reported to the police until January 2010.

In his closing address to the jury, Advocate Depute Andrew Stewart QC
said a delay in reporting such matters did not mean the women were
lying.

Research showed that many victims of sexual assault did not do so either
because of threats or because they felt they would not be believed.

Daughter in tears

Masonic Defence advocate, Brother Tommy Ross, said that because of the
36-year delay in the allegations being made to the police there was no
medical or scientific evidence and the account given to the police was
"total invention".

The girls' mother in her evidence, he said, had found the girls in bed
when she returned home and nothing was said. Neither had neighbours
heard any screaming.

Brother Paul Greig, now a married Freemason with a grown-up son and
daughter, joined the police force in 1993 and has been suspended from
duty since January 2010.

In his evidence, Brother Paul Greig swore on the Bible in Masonic form
and said he could only recollect babysitting the girls on two occasions.
The allegations against him, he said, were absolutely untrue.

When the jury's verdict was announced, his wife and daughter burst into
tears and when judge, Lord Kinclaven remanded Freemason Brother Paul
Greig in custody for reports.

When it was ordered he be placed on the Sex Offenders Register, his
daughter cried out: "Dad, Dad, Dad. Oh my God".

While Brother Paul Greig is in prison, the Freemason Grand Charity
http://grandcharity.org/ will care his wife and the dependents of all
Freemasons in prison.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, god of the Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-06 05:38:11 UTC
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Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls. Brother
Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.
< rubbish snipped>

Sorry, all incorrect.
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 07:31:05 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls.
Brother Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.
< rubbish snipped>
Sorry, all incorrect.
How do you know?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
sutartsorric
2011-07-06 08:07:27 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls.
Brother Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.
< rubbish snipped>
Sorry, all incorrect.
How do you know?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
I suppose that perverts and kiddie fiddlers have to find another naive
profession now that the priesthood has tightened up its security, so
why not the police? After all, they are above the law so there is no
chance of being prosecuted.
Richard McKenzie
2011-07-06 08:36:22 UTC
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Post by sutartsorric
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls.
Brother Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.
< rubbish snipped>
Sorry, all incorrect.
How do you know?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
I suppose that perverts and kiddie fiddlers have to find another naive
profession now that the priesthood has tightened up its security, so
why not the police? After all, they are above the law so there is no
chance of being prosecuted.
There is still teaching
Big J
2011-07-06 09:20:38 UTC
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Post by Richard McKenzie
Post by sutartsorric
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls.
Brother Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.
< rubbish snipped>
Sorry, all incorrect.
How do you know?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
I suppose that perverts and kiddie fiddlers have to find another naive
profession now that the priesthood has tightened up its security, so
why not the police? After all, they are above the law so there is no
chance of being prosecuted.
There is still teaching
Nurseries would be best. Kids too young to know what's going on etc.
Nigel Oldfield
2011-07-06 09:40:31 UTC
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Post by Richard McKenzie
There is still teaching
Nurseries would be best. Kids too young to know what's going on etc.- Hide quoted text -
... but they are crap lovers (I am told).

WM
Paul Clarke
2011-07-06 12:01:26 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls.
Brother Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.
< rubbish snipped>
Sorry, all incorrect.
How do you know?
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Praise be to the 07:15 from Cambridge
Because there is no proof that he is/was a Freemason, then the post is
incorrect.
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 13:31:35 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Because there is no proof that he is/was a Freemason,
then the post is incorrect.
I thought there was. Did he not say as much in his trial?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 15:00:34 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon,
holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
I thought you were and atheist?
I am a good looking Atheist.
Why praise anyone? Add to the fact
that your imagination is broken again.
Merely reminding you that Freemasonry, which claims it is open to all men
who believe in a supreme being, is the religion of a deity called Jahbulon.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Paul Clarke
2011-07-06 15:28:54 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon,
holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
I thought you were and atheist?
I am a good looking Atheist.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. (I know you will try to twist
that)
Post by Pilotiin
Why praise anyone? Add to the fact
that your imagination is broken again.
Merely reminding you that Freemasonry, which claims it is open to all men
who believe in a supreme being, is the religion of a deity called Jahbulon.
--
Sorry, wrong again.
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to the 07.15 from Cambridge
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 15:54:49 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Sorry, wrong again.
I am merely helping keep you abreast of developments in modern Freemasonry.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:21:37 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Paul Clarke
Sorry, wrong again.
I am merely helping keep you abreast of developments in modern Freemasonry.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Keep trying because until you understand modern Freemasonry, you wont
be able to help.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 18:32:27 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Keep trying because until you understand modern Freemasonry,
you wont be able to help.
Freemasonry = self interest + abuse of others
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 18:34:37 UTC
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I have hear there are forms of art therapy
that can work wonders with the mentally ill.
Who told you that?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
abelard
2011-07-07 18:42:48 UTC
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On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 18:34:37 +0000 (UTC), Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
I have hear there are forms of art therapy
that can work wonders with the mentally ill.
Who told you that?
an 'art therapist'
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Pilotiin
2011-07-08 00:50:48 UTC
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Post by abelard
Post by Pilotiin
I have hear there are forms of art therapy
that can work wonders with the mentally ill.
Who told you that?
an 'art therapist'
Exactly. Well said.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
David
2011-07-07 02:36:23 UTC
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:28:54 -0700 (PDT), Paul Clarke
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon,
holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
I thought you were and atheist?
I am a good looking Atheist.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. (I know you will try to twist
that)
I thought that should read "Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder".
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 03:31:28 UTC
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Post by David
I thought that should read
"Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder".
It's nice the way some men get better looking as they get older. A pity
men do not develop the far superior social skills women have.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:32:05 UTC
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Post by David
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:28:54 -0700 (PDT), Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon,
holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
I thought you were and atheist?
I am a good looking Atheist.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  (I know you will try to twist
that)
I thought that should read "Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder".
Never been to bed with an ugly woman, woke up with a few.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 18:39:46 UTC
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That is incorrect...as usual. So your
imagination is broken or running wild again.
Misunderstanding the mendacity of Freemasonry?
I belive they have medication that can help that.
More Freemason false allegations of mental illness. Is it not time you
bothered yourself to lie properly?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 21:12:36 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
That is incorrect...as usual. So your
imagination is broken or running wild again.
Misunderstanding the mendacity of Freemasonry?
In your case, just misunderstanding.
Post by Pilotiin
I belive they have medication that can help that.
More Freemason false allegations of mental illness. Is it not time you
bothered yourself to lie properly?
What Masons did that?
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 00:58:01 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
More Freemason false allegations of mental illness.
Is it not time you bothered yourself to lie properly?
What Masons did that?
These false allegations of mental illness we hear from Freemasons. You
really need to get out more and discover what mental illness is like.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 06:56:05 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
More Freemason false allegations of mental illness.
Is it not time you bothered yourself to lie properly?
What Masons did that?
These false allegations of mental illness we hear from Freemasons. You
really need to get out more and discover what mental illness is like.
So no answer then.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 07:26:50 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
More Freemason false allegations of mental illness.
Is it not time you bothered yourself to lie properly?
What Masons did that?
These false allegations of mental illness we hear
from Freemasons. You really need to get out more
and discover what mental illness is like.
So no answer then.
Did you mean which Masons did that?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 08:23:52 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
More Freemason false allegations of mental illness.
Is it not time you bothered yourself to lie properly?
What Masons did that?
These false allegations of mental illness we hear
from Freemasons. You really need to get out more
and discover what mental illness is like.
So no answer then.
Did you mean which Masons did that?
If you like.
Paul Clarke
2011-07-06 15:25:03 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Because there is no proof that he is/was a Freemason,
then the post is incorrect.
I thought there was.  Did he not say as much in his trial?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read, perhaps you imagined it.
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 15:58:05 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read, perhaps you imagined it.
You can look Jahbulon up, inter alia, on Wikipedia.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
KIV11
2011-07-06 17:40:42 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
You can look Jahbulon up, inter alia, on Wikipedia.
Why would anyone believe anything written on Wikipedia since, as you
have often shown,
it can be edited by anyone to say anything that anyone wants it to?
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 20:41:38 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Why would anyone believe anything written on Wikipedia
since, as you have often shown, it can be edited by
anyone to say anything that anyone wants it to?
We're not all paranoid.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:25:35 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by KIV11
Why would anyone believe anything written on Wikipedia
since, as you have often shown, it can be edited by
anyone to say anything that anyone wants it to?
We're not all paranoid.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasonss
Just you then.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:42:26 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
We're not all paranoid.
Just you then.
How is your invisible friend?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 17:30:03 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by KIV11
Why would anyone believe anything written on Wikipedia
since, as you have often shown, it can be edited by
anyone to say anything that anyone wants it to?
We're not all paranoid.
So only you are.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:45:16 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
We're not all paranoid.
So only you are.
Another entirely baseless Freemason allegation of mental illness.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 07:00:57 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
We're not all paranoid.
So only you are.
Another entirely baseless Freemason allegation of mental illness.
So now I am a Freemason again, you must make up your mind.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 07:31:27 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
We're not all paranoid.
So only you are.
Another entirely baseless
Freemason allegation of mental illness.
So now I am a Freemason again,
you must make up your mind.
Are you a Freemason?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:44:04 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
We're not all paranoid.
Nope just you...
Why don't you learn to tell lies properly?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-06 17:47:01 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read, perhaps you imagined it.
You can look Jahbulon up, inter alia, on Wikipedia.
Is that before or after you edit the article?
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 20:43:35 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
You can look Jahbulon up,
inter alia, on Wikipedia.
Is that before or after you
edit the article?
Do you often have these fears about people trying to mislead you?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-06 21:48:25 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
You can look Jahbulon up,
inter alia, on Wikipedia.
Is that before or after you
edit the article?
Do you often have these fears about people trying to mislead you?
I know Wikipedia is not a trustworthy source, as anybody can edit the
information.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 00:52:20 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
I know Wikipedia is not a trustworthy source,
as anybody can edit the information.
How many others are in this devious plot to destabilise you?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 05:38:52 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
I know Wikipedia is not a trustworthy source,
as anybody can edit the information.
How many others are in this devious plot to destabilise you?
Quite stable thank you.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 05:46:21 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
How many others are in this devious plot to destabilise you?
Quite stable thank you.
Do you often feel that you are being victimised?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 06:19:23 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
How many others are in this devious plot to destabilise you?
Quite stable thank you.
Do you often feel that you are being victimised?
Thank you for asking, but no.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 08:20:21 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Thank you for asking, but no.
When did these feelings begin?
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread162317/pg1
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 17:33:46 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Thank you for asking, but no.
When did these feelings begin?
What feelings would that be, try to answer without lying, twisting the
question, answering about another subject, or asking an unrelated question.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:52:30 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
When did these feelings begin?
What feelings would that be,
Your feelings of persecution.
Post by Tony Dragon
try to answer without lying, twisting the
question, answering about another subject,
or asking an unrelated question.
Fact: Freemasons are instructed to "divert the discourse," not me.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 07:02:59 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
When did these feelings begin?
What feelings would that be,
Your feelings of persecution.
Thanks for that, I thought it was indigestion.
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
try to answer without lying, twisting the
question, answering about another subject,
or asking an unrelated question.
Fact: Freemasons are instructed to "divert the discourse," not me.
Couldn't do it then.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 07:34:09 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
When did these feelings begin?
What feelings would that be,
Your feelings of persecution.
Thanks for that, I thought it was indigestion.
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
try to answer without lying, twisting the
question, answering about another subject,
or asking an unrelated question.
Fact: Freemasons are instructed to
"divert the discourse," not me.
Couldn't do it then.
The answer to your question is still in the text above.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:50:05 UTC
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Really Warren? Sending a link to anti masonic website forum?
Typical...one moron lie and the other swears to it...too funny.
So, everyone is lying apart from Freemasons and their invisible friend
Jahbulon? How long have you endured these feelings of persecution?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:36:12 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
How many others are in this devious plot to destabilise you?
Quite stable thank you.
Do you often feel that you are being victimised?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Why should he?
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:53:44 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Do you often feel that you are being victimised?
Why should he?
Why don't you ask him?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:28:19 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
I know Wikipedia is not a trustworthy source,
as anybody can edit the information.
How many others are in this devious plot to destabilise you?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Only one person seems unstable to me, & it's not Tony.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:57:05 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Only one person seems unstable to me,
& it's not Tony.
Do you have an invisible friend?

Are you a Freemason?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:23:57 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read, perhaps you imagined it.
You can look Jahbulon up, inter alia, on Wikipedia.
--
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
The fact that you believe Wikipedia, shows the reason for your errors.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 02:58:58 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
You can look Jahbulon up, inter alia, on Wikipedia.
The fact that you believe Wikipedia,
shows the reason for your errors.
Why don't get buy a dictionary and look-up inter alia?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 03:12:12 UTC
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I thought Freemasonry taught that anyone who believes Wikipedia is paranoid
schizophrenic?
another Masonic scholar believes it is a
descriptive name for God in Hebrew;
That's YHWH.

In any case, if Freemasons can be adherents of any supreme being, why are
Freemasons using a Hebrew name?
The most common masonic explanation is that it is
a word derived from combining parts of the name
of God in different historic languages.
Including Osris, the god of the dead?
NOTICE: despite repeated statements by Freemasonry's
officials that "There is no separate Masonic God"
So why does Freemasonry have a name for Him?
Now I know you can read but
apparently you cannot see.
If you think I have been unfair to you, tell me.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Lynsey Doyle
2011-07-06 16:37:19 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Paul Clarke
Because there is no proof that he is/was a Freemason,
then the post is incorrect.
I thought there was. Did he not say as much in his trial?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read, perhaps you imagined it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 20:46:00 UTC
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Post by Lynsey Doyle
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to Jahbulon,
holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read,
perhaps you imagined it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
All we're doing is helping keep you abreast of developments in modern
Freemasonry. There really is no need to be so negative about it.
--
Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
KIV11
2011-07-06 23:46:53 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Lynsey Doyle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
All we're doing is helping keep you abreast of developments in modern
Freemasonry.  There really is no need to be so negative about it.
Well then, if you read it, you should be able to understand that there
is no "Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons."
hamilton
2011-07-07 01:11:44 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Lynsey Doyle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
All we're doing is helping keep you abreast of developments in modern
Freemasonry. There really is no need to be so negative about it.
Well then, if you read it, you should be able to understand that there
is no "Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons."
WHAT !!!

Warren read something that contradicts his lies !!!

Are you crazy !!

Warren needs something to lie about, so it may as well be something that
contradicts him, with no one trying.

Have a good day CryBaby Warren.

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Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:27:24 UTC
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Post by KIV11
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Lynsey Doyle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
All we're doing is helping keep you abreast of developments in modern
Freemasonry.  There really is no need to be so negative about it.
Well then, if you read it, you should be able to understand that there
is no "Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons."
I believe that he has what is called 'selective understanding', when
he reads something it only ever says what he thinks.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 03:13:33 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
I believe that he has what is called 'selective understanding',
when he reads something it only ever says what he thinks.
So everyone is mad apart from you?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 03:16:49 UTC
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Post by Lynsey Doyle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
So your back to thinking of yourself in a plural
sense...hmmmmm. So how many of you are in there?
That link was posted by someone calling himself/herself Lynsey Doyle; not
me.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
David
2011-07-07 02:31:20 UTC
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On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:37:19 +0200, "Lynsey Doyle"
Post by Lynsey Doyle
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Paul Clarke
Because there is no proof that he is/was a Freemason,
then the post is incorrect.
I thought there was. Did he not say as much in his trial?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read, perhaps you imagined it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
You didn't read the article did you? It clearly states: "According to
Masonic historian Arturo de Hoyos, the word Jahbulon was first used in
the 18th century in early French versions of the Royal Arch degree. It
relates a Masonic allegory in which Jabulon was the name of an
explorer living during the time of Solomon who discovered the ruins of
an ancient temple. Within the ruins he found a gold plate upon which
the name of God (Jehovah) was engraved.[4]"

No mention of Jahbulon being a god of any kind. The ONLY people who
think it is the name of a god are those who are anti-masonic
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 03:40:30 UTC
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"[ . . . ] Within the ruins he found a gold plate upon
which the name of God (Jehovah) was engraved.[4]"
Which is doubtless where Freemason Brother Joseph Smith Junior found the
idea for having his Book of Mormon engraved on gold plates.
No mention of Jahbulon being a god of any kind.
That's not correct. Wait for your turn in the Royal Arch when you will
learn that Freemasonry is a religion of the god Jahbulon.
The ONLY people who think it is the name
of a god are those who are anti-masonic
I'm not anti-Masonic. This term anti-Mason, like anti-Mormon, is an
invention to insult critics.

In all fairness, the fraudulent Mormon religion and Freemasonry have far
too much in common.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:35:34 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
"[ . . . ] Within the ruins he found a gold plate upon
which the name of God (Jehovah) was engraved.[4]"
Which is doubtless where Freemason Brother Joseph Smith Junior found the
idea for having his Book of Mormon engraved on gold plates.
No mention of Jahbulon being a god of any kind.
That's not correct.  Wait for your turn in the Royal Arch when you will
learn that Freemasonry is a religion of the god Jahbulon.
Reading is not one of your skills is it.
Post by Pilotiin
The ONLY people who think it is the name
of a god are those who are anti-masonic
I'm not anti-Masonic.  This term anti-Mason, like anti-Mormon, is an
invention to insult critics.
I'd better add logic to the skills you do not have.
Post by Pilotiin
In all fairness, the fraudulent Mormon religion and Freemasonry have far
too much in common.
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Praise be to the 08.01 from Ipswitch
Most High
2011-07-07 13:47:08 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
"[ . . . ] Within the ruins he found a gold plate upon
which the name of God (Jehovah) was engraved.[4]"
Which is doubtless where Freemason Brother Joseph Smith Junior found the
idea for having his Book of Mormon engraved on gold plates.
And I suppose Joseph the poor farm boy had a bunch of GOLD just laying
around and instead of cashing it in,
took up engraving skills and faked the whole thing did he?
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 03:29:16 UTC
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Post by Most High
And I suppose Joseph the poor farm boy had a bunch of GOLD
just laying around and instead of cashing it in,
took up engraving skills and faked the whole thing did he?
If the Holy Prophet Freemason Brother Joseph Smith Junior (PBUH) had made
his own gold plates, he would not have been able to return them to the
angel Moroni, and today we would able to inspect his engravings and test
the quality of his godly translation.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 03:22:28 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Reading is not one of your skills is it.
So why ask?
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
I'm not anti-Masonic.  This term anti-Mason,
like anti-Mormon, is an invention to insult critics.
I'd better add logic to the skills you do not have.
I'm not anti-Masonic; neither am I anti-Mormon.
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Pilotiin
Praise be to the 08.01 from Ipswitch
Is that not where Freemason Brother Steve Wright murdered prostitutes?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:31:16 UTC
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Post by David
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:37:19 +0200, "Lynsey Doyle"
Post by Lynsey Doyle
Post by Paul Clarke
Post by Paul Clarke
Because there is no proof that he is/was a Freemason,
then the post is incorrect.
I thought there was.  Did he not say as much in his trial?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Not in anything that I have heard or read, perhaps you imagined it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahbulon
You didn't read the article did you? It clearly states: "According to
Masonic historian Arturo de Hoyos, the word Jahbulon was first used in
the 18th century in early French versions of the Royal Arch degree. It
relates a Masonic allegory in which Jabulon was the name of an
explorer living during the time of Solomon who discovered the ruins of
an ancient temple. Within the ruins he found a gold plate upon which
the name of God (Jehovah) was engraved.[4]"
No mention of Jahbulon being a god of any kind. The ONLY people who
think it is the name of a god are those who are anti-masonic- Hide quoted text -
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Or nutters
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 03:30:32 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Or nutters
Oh look, the "all critics of Freemasonry are mad" canard.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 15:56:27 UTC
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Don't forget, he tried to be a Mason
Not true.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-06 17:46:27 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Don't forget, he tried to be a Mason
Not true.
Prove it.
Pilotiin
2011-07-06 20:39:44 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Don't forget, he tried to be a Mason
Not true.
Prove it.
I don't need to prove it.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-06 21:46:17 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Don't forget, he tried to be a Mason
Not true.
Prove it.
I don't need to prove it.
Praise be to Jahbulon,who I think is the holy god of Royal Arch
Freemasons
Well, you haven't been able to prove anything else.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 00:49:11 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Praise be to Jahbulon, who I think is
the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Well, you haven't been able to prove anything else.
Praise be to Jahbulon, whom Tony Dragon thinks is the holy god of Royal
Arch Freemasons.

Fixed it for you.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:30:43 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Praise be to Jahbulon, who I think is
the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Well, you haven't been able to prove anything else.
Praise be to Jahbulon, whom Tony Dragon thinks is the holy god of Royal
Arch Freemasons.
Fixed it for you.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Didn't do a good job then, did you, as Tony has allready said
otherwise.

You haven't even managed to get the lieing right have you.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 18:42:09 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
You haven't even managed to get
the lieing right have you.
Please will you make the small amount of effort necessary for your baseless
abuse to be comprehensible?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 21:14:29 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Paul Clarke
You haven't even managed to get
the lieing right have you.
Please will you make the small amount of effort necessary for your baseless
abuse to be comprehensible?
He said that you are not even a good liar.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 01:00:11 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
He said that you are not even a good liar.
Can you prove that?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 06:56:55 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
He said that you are not even a good liar.
Can you prove that?
I didn't say it.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 07:27:53 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
He said that you are not even a good liar.
Can you prove that?
I didn't say it.
Can you prove that?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 08:25:05 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
He said that you are not even a good liar.
Can you prove that?
I didn't say it.
Can you prove that?
Oh Dear....
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 01:16:22 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Praise be to Jahbulon, who I think is
the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Well, you haven't been able to prove anything else.
Praise be to Jahbulon, whom Tony Dragon thinks is the holy god of Royal
Arch Freemasons.

Fixed it for you.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 05:37:50 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Praise be to Jahbulon, who I think is
the holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Well, you haven't been able to prove anything else.
Praise be to Jahbulon, whom Tony Dragon thinks is the holy god of Royal
Arch Freemasons.
Fixed it for you.
Nope, even after to attempts, you still got it wrong.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 05:45:05 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Nope, even after to attempts,
you still got it wrong.
Why don't you ask the dear lord Jahbulon for His help?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 06:18:35 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Nope, even after to attempts,
you still got it wrong.
Why don't you ask the dear lord Jahbulon for His help?
Don't think so, (for many reasons)
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 08:18:47 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Why don't you ask the dear
lord Jahbulon for His help?
Don't think so, (for many reasons)
Jahbulon is god of paedophiles and child murderers, so He should have time
for you.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread162317/pg1
Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:36:57 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Why don't you ask the dear
lord Jahbulon for His help?
Don't think so, (for many reasons)
Jahbulon is god of paedophiles and child murderers, so He should have time
for you.
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread162317/pg1
No, lost me on that one.
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 17:26:43 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Why don't you ask the dear
lord Jahbulon for His help?
Don't think so, (for many reasons)
Jahbulon is god of paedophiles and child murderers, so He should have time
for you.
So now I am a paedophiles and child murderer, I wonder what tomorrow
will bring.

You really have lost it, haven't you.
Pilotiin
2011-07-07 18:44:20 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
So now I am a paedophiles and child murderer,
I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
So you're a Freemason are you?
Post by Tony Dragon
You really have lost it, haven't you.
Lost what?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-07 21:18:09 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Post by Pilotiin
Why don't you ask the dear
lord Jahbulon for His help?
Don't think so, (for many reasons)
Jahbulon is god of paedophiles and child murderers, so He should have time
for you.
Post by Tony Dragon
So now I am a paedophiles and child murderer,
I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
So you're a Freemason are you?
Post by Tony Dragon
You really have lost it, haven't you.
Lost what?
A Freemason as well, will I be the 'Grand Yorub of the Adva League' next?

Oh did you see how I put back the parts you left out.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 01:02:37 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Oh did you see how I put back the parts you left out.
Did you pray to the holy Freemason god Jahbulon for help doing that?

Are you a Freemason?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 06:59:28 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Oh did you see how I put back the parts you left out.
Did you pray to the holy Freemason god Jahbulon for help doing that?
No, I don't need help to show up your mistakes.
Post by Pilotiin
Are you a Freemason?
You have already told me that I am.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 07:29:15 UTC
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Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Are you a Freemason?
You have already told me that I am.
Are you a Freemason?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-08 08:25:53 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Post by Tony Dragon
Post by Pilotiin
Are you a Freemason?
You have already told me that I am.
Are you a Freemason?
No, but according to you I am.

Paul Clarke
2011-07-07 13:22:37 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Don't forget, he tried to be a Mason
Not true.
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Praise be to the 07.15 from Cambridge
Well you know about lies.
Pilotiin
2011-07-08 01:04:45 UTC
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Post by Paul Clarke
Well you know about lies.
Do you mean Freemason allegations of mental illness?
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Praise be to Jahbulon, holy god of Royal Arch Freemasons

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/jahbulon.html
Tony Dragon
2011-07-06 17:45:04 UTC
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Post by Pilotiin
Lothian Freemason police sergeant guilty of raping two girls.
Brother Paul Greig of Armadale denied raping the sisters.
< rubbish snipped>
Sorry, all incorrect.
How do you know?
There is no such person, unless you can prove otherwise.
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