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Review of UK General Election Campaign Day Minus 4: 2nd November 2019
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Stephen Cole
2019-11-03 13:27:45 UTC
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Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so let’s dive in!

Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went apeshit,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.

Let’s take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don’t intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign…) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.

The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, they’ve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once they’ve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. It’s going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she ain’t one of
them.

Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then they’re
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
“2017 on acid” looks stronger with every passing minute!

Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
it’s no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, it’s absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.

Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnson’s deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
“concerns” over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaign’s alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming shitshow for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasn’t even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. Fucking
Nora!

On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, it’s a good argument from Labour’s
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.

Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesn’t take much objective thinking to look at what’s actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.

And the campaign hasn’t even started yet!
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abelard
2019-11-03 13:34:18 UTC
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On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
Post by Stephen Cole
Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so let’s dive in!
Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went apeshit,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.
Let’s take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don’t intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign…) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.
The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, they’ve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once they’ve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. It’s going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she ain’t one of
them.
Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then they’re
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
“2017 on acid” looks stronger with every passing minute!
Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
it’s no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, it’s absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.
Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnson’s deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
“concerns” over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaign’s alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming shitshow for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasn’t even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. Fucking
Nora!
On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, it’s a good argument from Labour’s
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.
Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesn’t take much objective thinking to look at what’s actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.
And the campaign hasn’t even started yet!
your objectivity has to be seen to be believed
--
www.abelard.org
Farmer Giles
2019-11-03 14:03:12 UTC
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Post by abelard
On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
Post by Stephen Cole
Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so let’s dive in!
Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went apeshit,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.
Let’s take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don’t intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign…) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.
The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, they’ve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once they’ve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. It’s going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she ain’t one of
them.
Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then they’re
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
“2017 on acid” looks stronger with every passing minute!
Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
it’s no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, it’s absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.
Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnson’s deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
“concerns” over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaign’s alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming shitshow for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasn’t even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. Fucking
Nora!
On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, it’s a good argument from Labour’s
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.
Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesn’t take much objective thinking to look at what’s actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.
And the campaign hasn’t even started yet!
your objectivity has to be seen to be believed
Another in-depth analysis from Babbelard.
Farmer Piggy
2019-11-04 06:25:18 UTC
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Post by Farmer Giles
Post by abelard
On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
Post by Stephen Cole
Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so let’s dive in!
Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went apeshit,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.
Let’s take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don’t intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign…) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.
The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, they’ve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once they’ve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. It’s going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she ain’t one of
them.
Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then they’re
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
“2017 on acid” looks stronger with every passing minute!
Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
it’s no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, it’s absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.
Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnson’s deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
“concerns” over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaign’s alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming shitshow for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasn’t even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. Fucking
Nora!
On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the
obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, it’s a good argument from Labour’s
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.
Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their
leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesn’t take much objective thinking to look at what’s actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.
And the campaign hasn’t even started yet!
your objectivity has to be seen to be believed
Another in-depth analysis from Babbelard.
STFU asswipe.
Farmer Giles
2019-11-04 06:47:44 UTC
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Post by Farmer Piggy
Post by Farmer Giles
Post by abelard
On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
Post by Stephen Cole
Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so let’s dive in!
Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went apeshit,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.
Let’s take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don’t intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign…) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.
The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, they’ve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once they’ve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. It’s going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible
individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she ain’t one of
them.
Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then they’re
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
“2017 on acid” looks stronger with every passing minute!
Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
it’s no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, it’s absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.
Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnson’s deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
“concerns” over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaign’s alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming shitshow for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasn’t even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. Fucking
Nora!
On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, it’s a good argument from Labour’s
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.
Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their
leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesn’t take much objective thinking to look at what’s actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.
And the campaign hasn’t even started yet!
your objectivity has to be seen to be believed
Another in-depth analysis from Babbelard.
STFU asswipe.
Get back in your cave, Jock-in-a-box.
Keema's Nan
2019-11-03 14:40:01 UTC
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Post by abelard
On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
Post by Stephen Cole
Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so let’s dive in!
Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went apeshit,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.
Let’s take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don’t intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign…) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.
The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, they’ve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once they’ve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. It’s going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she ain’t one of
them.
Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then they’re
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
“2017 on acid” looks stronger with every passing minute!
Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
it’s no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, it’s absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.
Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnson’s deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
“concerns” over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaign’s alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming shitshow for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasn’t even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. Fucking
Nora!
On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, it’s a good argument from Labour’s
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.
Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesn’t take much objective thinking to look at what’s actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.
And the campaign hasn’t even started yet!
your objectivity has to be seen to be believed
With some folk - it’s all about them.
p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
2019-11-03 15:46:55 UTC
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On 3 Nov 2019 13:27:45 GMT, Stephen Cole
Post by Stephen Cole
Yesterday was Day Minus 4 of the 2019 UK General Election campaign. There
was a yellow warning for wind and rain across the South of England, leading
to the cancellation of several major fireworks displays across Kent
including the Gillingham one I was intending to go to. There were plenty of
fireworks on the campaign trail, though, so let’s dive in!
Most impactful news dominating the day for the logistics of the coming
campaign was that Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson will appear on ITV in a
head-to-head debate. Jo Swinson and the Liberal Democrats went apeshit,
predictably, and demanded to appear also. The SNP, Brexit Party and, I
think, the Greens, made similar complaints but Corbyn and Johnson will do
well to keep the minor parties off TV; they both need to cast this election
as a two horse race and do all they can to minimise losing votes to the
outlier parties.
Let’s take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don’t intend to waste
much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign…) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling out
the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the evil they
committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered by the
electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering slightly in
2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the process, they have
since padded out their numbers with defections from the Tories and Change
UK.
The Lib Dems have long sought to portray themselves as the party of Remain.
Alas, they’ve had the wind taken out of their sails somewhat by Labour
making it Party policy to hold a 2nd referendum once they’ve formed a
government and negotiated a Labour deal with the EU. Swinson is,
understandably, desperate to secure equal-billing with Labour and the
Conservatives to try and keep her campaign relevant. It’s going to be
difficult for her to prevent it from becoming a JC vs BoJo saga, though.
Despite her clearly lunatic claims that the Lib Dems hope to take hundreds
of seats and form a majority, there are only two possible individuals who
might go to see the Queen on the 13th of December, and she ain’t one of
them.
Away from Lib Dem nonsense, the Tories had another bad day. The fallout
from their faux fracking ban was widely reported, with much hay being made
by Labour over the whole sordid scam. Seen through as an electoral stunt
essentially immediately, it merely plays into the notion of Tory duplicity
that Labour are keen to hammer home. If Boris is scoring own goals as badly
as this before the campaign has even officially started, then they’re
doomed. My prediction that the Conservative campaign might pan out to be
“2017 on acid” looks stronger with every passing minute!
Dominic Grieve, the exiled Tory MP, went public with demands for the
government to release a report on Russian political interference that it
has allegedly sat on since September. This is a genuinely huge story and
it’s no surprise to see why Boris is loth to put the report in the public
domain at the eve of a General Election. But the fact that there is an
election happening in 6 weeks, it’s absolutely essential that the public
has sight of these facts. Expect to see this story rage over the next
couple of days.
Thematically related to the above Russia report was the news that Dominic
Cummings, Boris Johnson’s deranged top advisor, is potentially a Russian
agent. Sounds insane, right? Well, he is apparently barred from accessing
the most sensitive of secret government material precisely due to
“concerns” over his time in Russia in the 1990s. Couple this with the
breaking news that the Metropolitan Police were handing a file of evidence
to the CPS with regards the Vote Leave campaign’s alleged breaking of
electoral law and we have a looming shitshow for Boris, who along with
Michael Gove fronted the Vote leave referendum campaign. Again, the
campaign hasn’t even started yet and the spectre of Russian interference,
spying, and criminal prosecution is dogging the Tory top team. Fucking
Nora!
On the Labour front, it was a good day. The debate about the obscenity of
billionaires continued in the press and on social media, both for and
against, but whatever way you cut it, it’s a good argument from Labour’s
perspective for people to be having, focusing on inequality and the evils
of capitalism rather than Brexit. Labour is loudly campaigning on a radical
and transformative agenda so it absolute suits them down to the ground to
have the role of billionaires analysed and critiqued.
Jeremy Corbyn was on the road, appearing at packed rallies through the day.
This is where Corbyn absolutely excels and the more of these events he
does, the more that broadcast media and social media will be flooded with
fantastic video clips of a mass movement fully behind their leadership. The
polls still, stupefyingly, show a commanding lead for the Tories but it
doesn’t take much objective thinking to look at what’s actually happening
and seeing that Labour have the upper hand.
And the campaign hasn’t even started yet!
your objectivity has to be seen to be believed
ditto

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Pamela
2019-11-04 14:11:55 UTC
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Let's take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don't intend to
waste much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling
out the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the
evil they committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered
by the electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering
slightly in 2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the
process, they have since padded out their numbers with defections from
the Tories and Change UK.
If the election is indecisive, there's a good chance the LibDems will be
needed to form a coalition. Don't be too hard on them. They won't get duped
so easily by the Conservatives this time.
Roger Hayter
2019-11-04 15:48:47 UTC
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Post by Pamela
Let's take a brief moment (and it will be brief; I don't intend to
waste much breath on the Lib Dems (aka the fucking Lib Dems) as I write
throughout this campaign) to consider Jo Swinson and the Liberal
Democrats. In 2010, the Lib Dems got into bed with the Tories and spent
five years voting through a devastating campaign of austerity. Selling
out the youth with their u-turn on tuition fees was the least of the
evil they committed. Bedroom tax anyone? They were deservedly hammered
by the electorate in 2015, reduced to a rump of 8 MPs. Recovering
slightly in 2017, hilariously losing the seat of Nick Clegg in the
process, they have since padded out their numbers with defections from
the Tories and Change UK.
If the election is indecisive, there's a good chance the LibDems will be
needed to form a coalition. Don't be too hard on them. They won't get duped
so easily by the Conservatives this time.
That'll be interesting. I don't think the Lib Dems will be foolish
enough to totally betray their principles for a taste of power this
time. (BICeasilyBW). If so, is Boris so greedy to stay in power that
he will grant them a second referendum?? That would be so funny I
would almost give up a Labour victory for it.
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