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How to recognise a turd world country like Venezuela
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R. Mark Clayton
2019-08-10 14:01:13 UTC
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The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.



Any of this sound familiar?

https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/09/uk-economy-shrinks-second-quarter-first-time-since-2012-10544089/

https://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/pound-falling-to-parity-is-an-idea-thats-starting-to-take-hold-1.65741418

https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17828685.fergusons-shipyard-faces-renewed-threat-administration-350-jobs-risk/ (second in a week)

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/news/105842/boris-johnson-plans-bailout-fund-businesses-risk-post-brexit-collapse

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-09/large-scale-london-and-south-east-power-cut-shuts-down-traffic-lights/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/06/tinkering-wont-stop-doctors-forced-nhs-absurd-taxes-pensions/

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-kashyap/bank-of-england-official-flags-risk-of-capital-flight-from-uk-idUKKCN1TJ1HA (over £1,000,000,000,000 so far)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339563/Nobel-Prize-winning-physicist-Sir-Andre-Geim-says-Boris-Johnson-taking-scientists-fools.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9662257/defiant-boris-johnson-would-refuse-to-quit-if-he-lost-no-confidence-vote-in-bid-to-force-through-brexit/

Whilst all these things have happened in Venezuela, the sad reality is that Brexit Britain is heading down the pan the same way...

Coming soon - high inflation, food rotting in the ports, empty shelves, rule by decree, mass protests...
Grikboxer®™
2019-08-10 15:28:36 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT), "R. Mark Clayton"
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Any of this sound familiar?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/09/uk-economy-shrinks-second-quarter-first-time-since-2012-10544089/
https://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/pound-falling-to-parity-is-an-idea-thats-starting-to-take-hold-1.65741418
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17828685.fergusons-shipyard-faces-renewed-threat-administration-350-jobs-risk/ (second in a week)
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/news/105842/boris-johnson-plans-bailout-fund-businesses-risk-post-brexit-collapse
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-09/large-scale-london-and-south-east-power-cut-shuts-down-traffic-lights/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/06/tinkering-wont-stop-doctors-forced-nhs-absurd-taxes-pensions/
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-kashyap/bank-of-england-official-flags-risk-of-capital-flight-from-uk-idUKKCN1TJ1HA (over £1,000,000,000,000 so far)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339563/Nobel-Prize-winning-physicist-Sir-Andre-Geim-says-Boris-Johnson-taking-scientists-fools.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9662257/defiant-boris-johnson-would-refuse-to-quit-if-he-lost-no-confidence-vote-in-bid-to-force-through-brexit/
Whilst all these things have happened in Venezuela, the sad reality is that Brexit Britain is heading down the pan the same way...
Coming soon - high inflation, food rotting in the ports, empty shelves, rule by decree, mass protests...
Project Fear at its VERY best!
R. Mark Clayton
2019-08-11 09:03:23 UTC
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Post by Grikboxer®™
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT), "R. Mark Clayton"
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Any of this sound familiar?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/09/uk-economy-shrinks-second-quarter-first-time-since-2012-10544089/
https://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/pound-falling-to-parity-is-an-idea-thats-starting-to-take-hold-1.65741418
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17828685.fergusons-shipyard-faces-renewed-threat-administration-350-jobs-risk/ (second in a week)
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/news/105842/boris-johnson-plans-bailout-fund-businesses-risk-post-brexit-collapse
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-09/large-scale-london-and-south-east-power-cut-shuts-down-traffic-lights/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/06/tinkering-wont-stop-doctors-forced-nhs-absurd-taxes-pensions/
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-kashyap/bank-of-england-official-flags-risk-of-capital-flight-from-uk-idUKKCN1TJ1HA (over Ł1,000,000,000,000 so far)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339563/Nobel-Prize-winning-physicist-Sir-Andre-Geim-says-Boris-Johnson-taking-scientists-fools.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9662257/defiant-boris-johnson-would-refuse-to-quit-if-he-lost-no-confidence-vote-in-bid-to-force-through-brexit/
Whilst all these things have happened in Venezuela, the sad reality is that Brexit Britain is heading down the pan the same way...
Coming soon - high inflation, food rotting in the ports, empty shelves, rule by decree, mass protests...
Project Fear at its VERY best!
Brexstremists need to take their heads out of the sand for a moment.

Not fear for the future, although that is now very very strong, but harsh reality. All these things have happened in Venezuela, so what about the UK?

The economy is contracting.
Predicted happened cited
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Predicted happened public domain £ = $1.2 = Eu1.07
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
Predicted happened cited + Ford, Nissan, Honda, H&W, Scunthorpe Steel Works
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Predicted planned by PM cited
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Predicted happened cited
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Predicted happened cited
Massive capital flight.
Predicted happened citation partly BoE prediction
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-ecb/uk-banks-moving-over-1-trillion-euros-of-assets-to-eu-over-brexit-ecb-idUKKCN1R11F4 billions more since
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
Predicted happened cited - Branson, Dyson, Novoselov
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Predicted not happened yet intention by PM cited

As for
high inflation
Inflation was higher after the referendum and is about to turn up again due to the feeble pound
food rotting in the ports, empty shelves,
Predicted by the government, retailers etc.
Rule by decree
Emergency powers quite likely to be used IMO and part of government planning
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-army-troops-military-planning-theresa-may-gavin-williamson-defence-a8689071.html
Mass protests
Already happened 6 million petitioned, over a million took to the streets
https://news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542 count them in the video


Stop living in denial and get a grip on reality.
Norman Wells
2019-08-11 10:30:55 UTC
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Post by R. Mark Clayton
As for
high inflation
Inflation was higher after the referendum and is about to turn up again due to the feeble pound
food rotting in the ports, empty shelves,
Predicted by the government, retailers etc.
Rule by decree
Emergency powers quite likely to be used IMO and part of government planning
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-army-troops-military-planning-theresa-may-gavin-williamson-defence-a8689071.html
Mass protests
Already happened 6 million petitioned, over a million took to the streets
https://news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542 count them in the video
Stop living in denial and get a grip on reality.
As for your still being entrenched in denial about Brexit, will you ever
emerge even when it happens?
R. Mark Clayton
2019-08-11 15:04:18 UTC
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Post by R. Mark Clayton
As for
high inflation
Inflation was higher after the referendum and is about to turn up again due to the feeble pound
food rotting in the ports, empty shelves,
Predicted by the government, retailers etc.
Rule by decree
Emergency powers quite likely to be used IMO and part of government planning
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-army-troops-military-planning-theresa-may-gavin-williamson-defence-a8689071.html
Mass protests
Already happened 6 million petitioned, over a million took to the streets
https://news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542 count them in the video
Stop living in denial and get a grip on reality.
As for your still being entrenched in denial about Brexit, will you ever
emerge even when it happens?
If it does happen, especially a hard Brexit, then it is the Brexiteers who will be in hiding.

Will I be able to resist saying "I told you so", I doubt it mainly because of the pig headed "any price is worth" attitude of Brextremists.
Grikboxer®™
2019-08-11 12:37:29 UTC
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 02:03:23 -0700 (PDT), "R. Mark Clayton"
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Post by Grikboxer®™
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT), "R. Mark Clayton"
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Any of this sound familiar?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/09/uk-economy-shrinks-second-quarter-first-time-since-2012-10544089/
https://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/pound-falling-to-parity-is-an-idea-thats-starting-to-take-hold-1.65741418
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17828685.fergusons-shipyard-faces-renewed-threat-administration-350-jobs-risk/ (second in a week)
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/news/105842/boris-johnson-plans-bailout-fund-businesses-risk-post-brexit-collapse
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-09/large-scale-london-and-south-east-power-cut-shuts-down-traffic-lights/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/06/tinkering-wont-stop-doctors-forced-nhs-absurd-taxes-pensions/
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-kashyap/bank-of-england-official-flags-risk-of-capital-flight-from-uk-idUKKCN1TJ1HA (over ?1,000,000,000,000 so far)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339563/Nobel-Prize-winning-physicist-Sir-Andre-Geim-says-Boris-Johnson-taking-scientists-fools.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9662257/defiant-boris-johnson-would-refuse-to-quit-if-he-lost-no-confidence-vote-in-bid-to-force-through-brexit/
Whilst all these things have happened in Venezuela, the sad reality is that Brexit Britain is heading down the pan the same way...
Coming soon - high inflation, food rotting in the ports, empty shelves, rule by decree, mass protests...
Project Fear at its VERY best!
Brexstremists need to take their heads out of the sand for a moment.
Not fear for the future, although that is now very very strong, but harsh reality. All these things have happened in Venezuela, so what about the UK?
Yes, we're heading for a very similar scenario. But people don't have
any land borders to escape over (other than Norn Iron).
<snigger>
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The economy is contracting.
Predicted happened cited
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Predicted happened public domain £ = $1.2 = Eu1.07
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
Predicted happened cited + Ford, Nissan, Honda, H&W, Scunthorpe Steel Works
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Predicted planned by PM cited
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Predicted happened cited
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Predicted happened cited
Massive capital flight.
Predicted happened citation partly BoE prediction
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-ecb/uk-banks-moving-over-1-trillion-euros-of-assets-to-eu-over-brexit-ecb-idUKKCN1R11F4 billions more since
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
Predicted happened cited - Branson, Dyson, Novoselov
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Predicted not happened yet intention by PM cited
As for
high inflation
Inflation was higher after the referendum and is about to turn up again due to the feeble pound
food rotting in the ports, empty shelves,
Predicted by the government, retailers etc.
Rule by decree
Emergency powers quite likely to be used IMO and part of government planning
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-army-troops-military-planning-theresa-may-gavin-williamson-defence-a8689071.html
Mass protests
Already happened 6 million petitioned, over a million took to the streets
https://news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542 count them in the video
Stop living in denial and get a grip on reality.
Stop marketing/promoting Project Fear and undermining your country.
Peeler
2019-08-11 13:15:09 UTC
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Post by Grikboxer®™
Stop marketing/promoting Project Fear and undermining your country.
Stop trying to pretend it's ANY of yours, you hilarious idiotic serb troll
and laughable "Brit" and "WASP" wannabe! LOL
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Fredxx
2019-08-11 15:41:49 UTC
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Post by Grikboxer®™
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT), "R. Mark Clayton"
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Any of this sound familiar?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/09/uk-economy-shrinks-second-quarter-first-time-since-2012-10544089/
https://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/pound-falling-to-parity-is-an-idea-thats-starting-to-take-hold-1.65741418
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17828685.fergusons-shipyard-faces-renewed-threat-administration-350-jobs-risk/ (second in a week)
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/news/105842/boris-johnson-plans-bailout-fund-businesses-risk-post-brexit-collapse
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-09/large-scale-london-and-south-east-power-cut-shuts-down-traffic-lights/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/06/tinkering-wont-stop-doctors-forced-nhs-absurd-taxes-pensions/
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-kashyap/bank-of-england-official-flags-risk-of-capital-flight-from-uk-idUKKCN1TJ1HA (over Ł1,000,000,000,000 so far)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339563/Nobel-Prize-winning-physicist-Sir-Andre-Geim-says-Boris-Johnson-taking-scientists-fools.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9662257/defiant-boris-johnson-would-refuse-to-quit-if-he-lost-no-confidence-vote-in-bid-to-force-through-brexit/
Whilst all these things have happened in Venezuela, the sad reality is that Brexit Britain is heading down the pan the same way...
Coming soon - high inflation, food rotting in the ports, empty shelves, rule by decree, mass protests...
Project Fear at its VERY best!
Brexstremists need to take their heads out of the sand for a moment.
Not fear for the future, although that is now very very strong, but harsh reality. All these things have happened in Venezuela, so what about the UK?
The economy is contracting.
Predicted happened cited
Yes, after a boost because May said we were leaving and manufacturers
stockpiling.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Predicted happened public domain £ = $1.2 = Eu1.07
Good for exports and jobs.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
Predicted happened cited + Ford, Nissan, Honda, H&W, Scunthorpe Steel Works
Yep, predicted from shrinking car industries like BMW.

Having a free trade agreements with Japan assisted these closures.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Is Greece's bailout caused by Brexit? The last time the UK went cap in
hand to the IMF was a labour government. Remind us, were we in the
EU/EEC at that time?
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted planned by PM cited
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Predicted happened cited
Yep, brexit caused the the one in 2003 too. More easily blamed on EU
directives on unstable green energy.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
That's more down to the loss of training places endorsed by your
glorious leaders in return for Knighthoods during the ConDem pact.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted happened cited
Massive capital flight.
Not visible to us mortal workers.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted happened citation partly BoE prediction
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-ecb/uk-banks-moving-over-1-trillion-euros-of-assets-to-eu-over-brexit-ecb-idUKKCN1R11F4 billions more since
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
Again real effect on the UK worker.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted happened cited - Branson, Dyson, Novoselov
Their move is independent of Brexit. Cost of manufacture has been
cheaper in the Far East a long time before Brexit.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Predicted not happened yet intention by PM cited
Quite, constitutional vs democratic. Perhaps the constitutional rules
are catching up with democracy. After 3 years of Remainers muddling
constitutional rules we've finally have a leader who is more democratic
who doesn't want to thwart the will of the people.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
As for
high inflation
Inflation was higher after the referendum and is about to turn up again due to the feeble pound
food rotting in the ports, empty shelves,
Predicted by the government, retailers etc.
Make your mind up, is there now going to be an excess of food such it
goes to rot?
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Rule by decree
Emergency powers quite likely to be used IMO and part of government planning
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-army-troops-military-planning-theresa-may-gavin-williamson-defence-a8689071.html
Mass protests
Already happened 6 million petitioned, over a million took to the streets
https://news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542 count them in the video
And the biggest EU MEP party is the Brexit Party. It shows Remainers
have a lot more time to be vocal than the silent majority of Brexiters.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Stop living in denial and get a grip on reality.
Quite, get a job rather than a parasitic life.
R. Mark Clayton
2019-08-11 17:09:50 UTC
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 07:01:13 -0700 (PDT), "R. Mark Clayton"
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
SNIP
Post by Fredxx
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Grikboxer®™
Project Fear at its VERY best!
Brexstremists need to take their heads out of the sand for a moment.
Not fear for the future, although that is now very very strong, but harsh reality. All these things have happened in Venezuela, so what about the UK?
The economy is contracting.
Predicted happened cited
Yes, after a boost because May said we were leaving and manufacturers
stockpiling.
Which is the only reason why we are not in a recession right now. Before the referendum we were the leading EU economic performer, now we are one of the worst - behind even Greece!
Post by Fredxx
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Predicted happened public domain £ = $1.2 = Eu1.07
Good for exports and jobs.
Only up to a point - 20% down is dire.
Post by Fredxx
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
Predicted happened cited + Ford, Nissan, Honda, H&W, Scunthorpe Steel Works
Yep, predicted from shrinking car industries like BMW.
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up every year since the crash, up for every class
https://www.best-selling-cars.com/brands/2018-global-bmw-mini-rolls-royce-worldwide-sales/
oh except the 60 year old British design (or should that be Italian) Mini
Post by Fredxx
Having a free trade agreements with Japan assisted these closures.
And sales to Japan - the overall result of free[r] trade tends to be benefits for all parties. Why do you think the government has sent Raab to beg Trump for one with the USA?
Post by Fredxx
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Is Greece's bailout caused by Brexit? The last time the UK went cap in
hand to the IMF was a labour government. Remind us, were we in the
EU/EEC at that time?
Read the citation - our own government is organising a post Brexit bailout for UK industry - why - simples, Brexit will badly damage UK industry and our government knows that even if you don't.
Post by Fredxx
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted planned by PM cited
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Predicted happened cited
Yep, brexit caused the the one in 2003 too. More easily blamed on EU
directives on unstable green energy.
Just a coincidence then - just like the repeated power cuts in Venezuela...
Post by Fredxx
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
That's more down to the loss of training places endorsed by your
glorious leaders in return for Knighthoods during the ConDem pact.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted happened cited
Massive capital flight.
Not visible to us mortal workers.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted happened citation partly BoE prediction
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-ecb/uk-banks-moving-over-1-trillion-euros-of-assets-to-eu-over-brexit-ecb-idUKKCN1R11F4 billions more since
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
Again real effect on the UK worker.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Predicted happened cited - Branson, Dyson, Novoselov
Their move is independent of Brexit.
Really?
Post by Fredxx
Cost of manufacture has been
cheaper in the Far East a long time before Brexit.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Predicted not happened yet intention by PM cited
Quite, constitutional vs democratic. Perhaps the constitutional rules
are catching up with democracy. After 3 years of Remainers muddling
constitutional rules we've finally have a leader who is more democratic
who doesn't want to thwart the will of the people.
He doesn't want to test it - Boris is running scared of an election or referendum that would decide it now we know what is actually on offer - that is the issue. Rees-Mogg at least had the decency to support a second referendum on the final terms.
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Post by R. Mark Clayton
As for
high inflation
Inflation was higher after the referendum and is about to turn up again due to the feeble pound
food rotting in the ports, empty shelves,
Predicted by the government, retailers etc.
Make your mind up, is there now going to be an excess of food such it
goes to rot?
The short term risk is lorries will be stuck at channel ports waiting for customs clearance and the food will rot in the trailer and never reach the shelves.

In the medium term fresh produce choice will be less and prices much higher. Food from the continent will go to Rungis, not Smithfield.
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Post by R. Mark Clayton
Rule by decree
Emergency powers quite likely to be used IMO and part of government planning
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-army-troops-military-planning-theresa-may-gavin-williamson-defence-a8689071.html
Mass protests
Already happened 6 million petitioned, over a million took to the streets
https://news.sky.com/story/one-million-people-march-in-london-to-demand-second-eu-referendum-11673542 count them in the video
And the biggest EU MEP party is the Brexit Party. It shows Remainers
have a lot more time to be vocal than the silent majority of Brexiters.
It is NOT a majority and has not been for a year or more.
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Post by R. Mark Clayton
Stop living in denial and get a grip on reality.
Quite, get a job rather than a parasitic life.
Phi
2019-08-10 15:53:56 UTC
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"R. Mark Clayton" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9754b3f8-4911-4119-8a35-***@googlegroups.com...
The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.



Any of this sound familiar?

https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/09/uk-economy-shrinks-second-quarter-first-time-since-2012-10544089/

https://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/pound-falling-to-parity-is-an-idea-thats-starting-to-take-hold-1.65741418

https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17828685.fergusons-shipyard-faces-renewed-threat-administration-350-jobs-risk/
(second in a week)

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/news/105842/boris-johnson-plans-bailout-fund-businesses-risk-post-brexit-collapse

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-09/large-scale-london-and-south-east-power-cut-shuts-down-traffic-lights/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/06/tinkering-wont-stop-doctors-forced-nhs-absurd-taxes-pensions/

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-kashyap/bank-of-england-official-flags-risk-of-capital-flight-from-uk-idUKKCN1TJ1HA
(over £1,000,000,000,000 so far)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339563/Nobel-Prize-winning-physicist-Sir-Andre-Geim-says-Boris-Johnson-taking-scientists-fools.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9662257/defiant-boris-johnson-would-refuse-to-quit-if-he-lost-no-confidence-vote-in-bid-to-force-through-brexit/

Whilst all these things have happened in Venezuela, the sad reality is that
Brexit Britain is heading down the pan the same way...

Coming soon - high inflation, food rotting in the ports, empty shelves, rule
by decree, mass protests...


Do you remember the milk lakes and butter mountains when the Common Market
started ?....well they can go now.
R. Mark Clayton
2019-08-10 17:11:26 UTC
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The economy is contracting.
The currency is falling and keeps setting new lows.
Major industries like shipyards, car plants and steelworks close down.
The country needs a bailout to counteract its own government's bungling.
Power cuts plunge large areas into darkness.
Hospitals overflowing as doctors refuse extra work.
Massive capital flight.
Intelligentsia and entrepreneurs leave.
The regime clings to power unconstitutionally.
Any of this sound familiar?
https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/09/uk-economy-shrinks-second-quarter-first-time-since-2012-10544089/
https://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/pound-falling-to-parity-is-an-idea-thats-starting-to-take-hold-1.65741418
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/17828685.fergusons-shipyard-faces-renewed-threat-administration-350-jobs-risk/
(second in a week)
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/work/news/105842/boris-johnson-plans-bailout-fund-businesses-risk-post-brexit-collapse
https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-09/large-scale-london-and-south-east-power-cut-shuts-down-traffic-lights/
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/06/tinkering-wont-stop-doctors-forced-nhs-absurd-taxes-pensions/
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-boe-kashyap/bank-of-england-official-flags-risk-of-capital-flight-from-uk-idUKKCN1TJ1HA
(over £1,000,000,000,000 so far)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7339563/Nobel-Prize-winning-physicist-Sir-Andre-Geim-says-Boris-Johnson-taking-scientists-fools.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/9662257/defiant-boris-johnson-would-refuse-to-quit-if-he-lost-no-confidence-vote-in-bid-to-force-through-brexit/
Whilst all these things have happened in Venezuela, the sad reality is that
Brexit Britain is heading down the pan the same way...
Coming soon - high inflation, food rotting in the ports, empty shelves, rule
by decree, mass protests...
Do you remember the milk lakes and butter mountains when the Common Market
started ?....well they can go now.
CAP has undergone considerable reform, and buying for intervention has much reduced. Of course the EU was buyer of last resort at the floor price, so only the lowest quality produce went into it and paperwork was not required for farmers who could sell on the open market.

In any event the stockpiles were mostly small: -

beef - 8 days
butter - a month
milk - several months, but as milk powder - this was often given for famine relief.
wine - three months, but bear in mind wine production is all in the autumn in the EU and many people have private stocks much larger than this - my 'cellar' has nearly a year's reserve supply.

The MOST important thing about CAP was that whilst the politics of having a small surplus are slightly embarrassing, the politics of a small shortage are lethal.

The situation with milk became silly with quotas imposed on efficient UK producers and the quotas being traded. These ended 31st March 2015.
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