Post by pamela Post by The Todal Post by pamela Post by JNugent Post by pamela Post by The Todal Post by Yellow
On Wed, 6 Dec 2017 07:16:12 -0800 (PST), pensive hamster
On Wednesday, 6 December 2017 14:56:40 UTC, The Todal
Post by The Todal Post by BurfordTJustice
: It damages their mental health...
Page doesn't work (at 14:55). Bloody snowflakes at the
Telegraph must have pulled the article.
It does work now (15:14), on Firefox. Non-snowflakes at
the Telegraph must have mounted a counter-offensive.
Shock new - Snowflakes are snowflakey when told they are
Yes, I see the article now. Not very well written, really. I
don't think anyone can claim to speak for "young people".
Smile at us, pay us, pass us; but do not quite forget; For
we are the snowflakes of England, that never have spoken
Can you imagine this neurotic generation ever managing to
rise to a challenge like the Second World War if something
like it ever came their way?
Some of them, yes.
But only some.
Sadly I have yet to meet a single one.
I do wish this generation well... after all in our dotage we
will depend on their successes. However they seem so
exquisitely sensitive that I would not be surprised if some
doctor classified their rather dyfunctional mindset as a
I wonder how the precious snowflake outlook occurred. It seems
quite different to what went before it.
The Telegraph piece mentions the origin of the term "snowflake",
from 1996. It has become a popular image in journalism in the
last 5 years or so, as each journalist enthusiastically copies
the work of another to fill up the column inches.
The notion in some (mainly American) university departments that
students must be warned before they are introduced to
distressing material, is a rather bizarre notion but is
certainly not widespread. It is wrong to assume that most (or
even many) students are fragile. It's very easy to make
offensive generalisations about students but rather harder to
point to any specific examples. For instance - workshops for
freshmen to explain sexual harassment. Seems perfectly
reasonable. Might prevent a few drunken female students from
being raped by ignorant young men.
I don't really refer to Amercian universities nor to sexual
harassment but to the teenagers and those in their early 20s I come
across whose very outlook on the world reflects a fragility of mind.
Yes, emotional hurt is overemphasised but also any adverse emotion.
There is also a sense of entitlement and an exaggerated sense of
respect and consideration required. The sense of "you can't do that
to me" being applied too widely.
All that wouldn't matter of the generation were go getters poised to
change the world for the better but it seems the opposite is true and
an unexpectedly large number are low achievers with few ambitions.
Their focus is on a sense of feeling good, not competing, why try too
hard. I am generalising and there are many exceptions but the trend
seems very much in that direction.
The snowflake generation has seen little adversity and has not had to
fight for peace not clamber for prosperity. Life is easier for them
than it has been for previous generations. Perhaps that is why
although I still can't, for the life of me, see why such an attitude
There were some interesting marketing guides on how to market goods
to this generation which make some rather sad observations on their
These are all interesting points which may have some validity but I'm
not convinced that we can generalise about the young generation. If we
can, the fault may lie with our educational system and with the
government which has imposed that system on our schools.
Rigid performance targets for schools and for pupils, which create a
league-table mentality and prevent teachers from using their skills
properly to make learning enjoyable.
High stress levels for pupils, who nowadays are expected to get straight
A grades if they want to get a good university place.
Coupled with bullying in social media, the stress has caused mental
health problems among young people. Suicide attempts and cutting of arms
and other self-mutilation behaviour, now quite widespread.
Counselling which aims to help children resist bullying and stand up for
themselves, leading to some young people trying to avoid stress in their
lives and therefore trying to avoid challenges.
I've heard from many sources that if you have a manual or semi-skilled
job and you offer it to a British school leaver he'll usually be late in
every day and be reluctant to stay late and won't be as hard a worker as
his equivalent from Poland or other European nations. The reasons may
include a reluctance to respond to any performance targets because they
are seen as stressful, but also an awareness that wages are relatively
low, house prices are unaffordable and there's no good reason to feel
ambitious because you continue living at home and retain the mentality
of a child whose needs are met by one's parents.