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Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords.
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BurfordTJustice
2018-05-13 12:20:54 UTC
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The Lords know better than the peasants.

Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
petition!

In the stunning thirteenth attempt by the House of Lords to kill Brexit,
they have once again voted against the will of the people. Therefore, a
petition was started

The UNELECTED upper house of Parliament is on a quest to halt all things
Brexit with its series of votes, each one against the spirit of the British
people.

Tuesday's vote was no different. With a vote of 247 to 218, peers are trying
to force Britain to stay in the single market by remaining in the European
Economic Area (EEA), which comprises the EU plus Norway, Iceland and


EEA membership guarantees the untrammelled freedom of movement of people and
goods into and out of Britain and is hugely controversial.

Voting to get out from under the rulings of unelected bureaucrats has been
met with rulings by unelected elites trying to thwart Brexit. Disappointed
and displeased Brexit voters are standing against it. As such, Brexiters
have created a petition calling for the abolition of the House of Lords.

"The House of Lords is a place of patronage where unelected and
unaccountable individuals hold a disproportionate amount of influence and
power which can be used to frustrate the elected representatives of the
people".

Make your voice heard, sign the petition, which will be debated in
Parliament on 18 June 2018!
tim...
2018-05-13 13:57:10 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The Lords know better than the peasants.
Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
petition!
The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with

We should just make it a rule that if you don't turn up and vote regularly
(say 80%) in any one year you lose your right to speak/vote forever
(exceptions for medical problems etc).

One of the issue with these Brexit votes is that for many of the Remoaning
Peers, this is the first time in months they have turned up at the house.

tim
BurfordTJustice
2018-05-13 15:01:08 UTC
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LOL right out of the chute you are making exceptions.

just like government....



"tim..." <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:pd9ga4$6l1$***@dont-email.me...
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: "BurfordTJustice" <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote in message
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: > The Lords know better than the peasants.
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: > Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
: > petition!
:
: The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
:
: We should just make it a rule that if you don't turn up and vote regularly
: (say 80%) in any one year you lose your right to speak/vote forever
: (exceptions for medical problems etc).
:
: One of the issue with these Brexit votes is that for many of the Remoaning
: Peers, this is the first time in months they have turned up at the house.
:
: tim
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pamela
2018-05-13 15:13:51 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The Lords know better than the peasants.
Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
petition!
The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with


Nothing.

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BurfordTJustice
2018-05-13 15:14:40 UTC
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: "BurfordTJustice" <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote in message
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: > The Lords know better than the peasants.
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: > Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
: > petition!
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: The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
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Vidcapper
2018-05-13 15:22:55 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The Lords know better than the peasants.
Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
petition!
The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
Nothing.
so, you either...

1. Don't anticipate that causing any problems, or

2. Don't care if it causes any problems

Maybe you have a 3rd option>
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
BurfordTJustice
2018-05-13 15:50:00 UTC
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: On 13/05/2018 16:13, pamela wrote:
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: > "tim..." wrote in message news:pd9ga4$6l1$***@dont-email.me...
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: > "BurfordTJustice" <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote in message
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: >> The Lords know better than the peasants.
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: >> Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
: >> petition!
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: > The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
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: > Nothing.
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: so, you either...
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: 1. Don't anticipate that causing any problems, or
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: 2. Don't care if it causes any problems
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: Maybe you have a 3rd option>
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: Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
pamela
2018-05-13 15:59:59 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The Lords know better than the peasants.
Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords.
Sign the petition!
The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
Nothing.
LOL. And to think I got fooled by the clever socking.
tim...
2018-05-13 19:01:05 UTC
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The Lords know better than the peasants.
Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
petition!
The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
HMG will have to get a damned sight better at drafting laws then

There are many instances where the Lords did it job properly and tidied up a
complete mess that the HoC sent it

tim
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Nothing.
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Basil Jet
2018-05-14 22:21:26 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
The Lords know better than the peasants.
Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
petition!
The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
We should just make it a rule that if you don't turn up and vote
regularly (say 80%) in any one year you lose your right to speak/vote
forever (exceptions for medical problems etc).
One of the issue with these Brexit votes is that for many of the
Remoaning Peers, this is the first time in months they have turned up at
the house.
Why would that be a problem with remoaner peers and not Brexit peers?
JNugent
2018-05-14 23:53:52 UTC
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Post by tim...
Post by BurfordTJustice
The Lords know better than the peasants.
Lords want to abolish Brexit. Brexiters want to abolish Lords. Sign the
petition!
The problem with abolishing the Lords is what do you replace it with
We should just make it a rule that if you don't turn up and vote
regularly (say 80%) in any one year you lose your right to speak/vote
forever (exceptions for medical problems etc).
One of the issue with these Brexit votes is that for many of the
Remoaning Peers, this is the first time in months they have turned up
at the house.
Why would that be a problem with remoaner peers and not Brexit peers?
There is no need to abolish the Lords.

Two things need to be done

One is to immediately appoint 1,000 Conservative life peers in order to
counter the gerrymandered political imbalance there and to enable
Parliament to get through the current impasse caused by the Lords having
been appointed to (mainly) reflect other parties.

The other is to legislate within a year to restore the composition of
the House to what it was on 30th April 1997, before Labour gerrymandered it.
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