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Cannabis 'kills peers son'
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Graham T
2017-02-16 21:48:57 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.

If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
Bod
2017-02-16 21:51:41 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-16 22:51:29 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
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Indeed, and what does the strength matter? People get drunk on beer as easily as vodka, they just use more of it.
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The Peeler
2017-02-16 23:02:20 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:51:29 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
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If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
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Indeed, and what does the strength matter? People get drunk on beer as
easily as vodka, they just use more of it.
As easily, eh, blabbering idiot? <BG>
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tim...
2017-02-17 13:17:58 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
Indeed, and what does the strength matter? People get drunk on beer as
easily as vodka, they just use more of it.
I realise that it's not necessarily applicable to other drugs:

but it's next to impossible to kill yourself from a single over indulgence
in beer (short of the normal act of making yourself drunk so you walk under
a car, etc) whereas with spirits it's all too easy

tim
James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-17 14:31:18 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
Indeed, and what does the strength matter? People get drunk on beer as
easily as vodka, they just use more of it.
Rubbish.
Post by tim...
but it's next to impossible to kill yourself from a single over indulgence
in beer (short of the normal act of making yourself drunk so you walk under
a car, etc) whereas with spirits it's all too easy
Bullshit, you just drink more.
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The Peeler
2017-02-17 16:11:39 UTC
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:31:18 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
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but it's next to impossible to kill yourself from a single over indulgence
in beer (short of the normal act of making yourself drunk so you walk under
a car, etc) whereas with spirits it's all too easy
Bullshit, you just drink more.
Babbling idiot, it's a fact that alcohol poisoning (also the fatal kind)
mostly is produced by hard spirits.
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The Todal
2017-02-16 23:12:07 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-16 23:47:29 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow suit, and how long will it take?
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The Peeler
2017-02-16 23:58:19 UTC
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I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow suit,
and how long will it take?
Why, are you intending to infest the US any time soon, or are you only
babbling for attention's sake again, you pathological attention whore?
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for 15 minutes, I've tried it on many occasions. It takes 30 minutes to
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hard."
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Brian Reay
2017-02-17 07:29:35 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
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Bod
2017-02-17 07:56:31 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
Brian Reay
2017-02-17 08:54:57 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.

Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.

The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
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Suspect someone is claiming a benefit under false pretences? Incapacity
Benefit or Personal Independence Payment when they don't need it? They
are depriving those in real need!

https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud
Bod
2017-02-17 09:27:53 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
Brian Reay
2017-02-17 09:38:27 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get one
free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
--
Suspect someone is claiming a benefit under false pretences? Incapacity
Benefit or Personal Independence Payment when they don't need it? They
are depriving those in real need!

https://www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud
Bod
2017-02-17 09:54:43 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get one
free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
burfordTjustice
2017-02-17 12:07:20 UTC
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with
different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all
follow suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not
whole States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was
told there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc,
there just aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns
and ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or
whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is
their country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get
one free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love
of guns.
Americans have way for balls then the left over British males.
Girlie men the lot.
Bod
2017-02-17 16:43:36 UTC
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I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was
told there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc,
there just aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns
and ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or
whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is
their country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get
one free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love
of guns.
Americans have way for balls then the left over British males.
Girlie men the lot.
We're not the ones who need guns to feel safe.
James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-17 16:58:29 UTC
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I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was
told there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc,
there just aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns
and ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or
whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is
their country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get
one free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love
of guns.
Americans have way for balls then the left over British males.
Girlie men the lot.
We're not the ones who need guns to feel safe.
It's a penis substitute. Look up the average cock size for UK and USA, I believe they're an inch less.
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The Peeler
2017-02-17 17:41:45 UTC
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We're not the ones who need guns to feel safe.
It's a penis substitute. Look up the average cock size for UK and USA, I
believe they're an inch less.
You ARE a prick, Birdbrain! <BG>
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James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-17 14:30:49 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get one
free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
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2017-02-17 16:11:45 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
Simply bullshitting for bullshitting's sake again, eh, Birdbrain? <BG>
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Bod
2017-02-17 16:57:20 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-17 17:02:53 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
How do you know the children didn't mean it?
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The Peeler
2017-02-17 17:47:06 UTC
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:02:53 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
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www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
How do you know the children didn't mean it?
More relevant question: how do we know that you are a sociopath? Eh? Wanna
take a guess, Birdbrain? <BG>
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world:
"Having read the utter bullshit about dying if you fall in a freezing lake
for 15 minutes, I've tried it on many occasions. It takes 30 minutes to
even get chattering teeth, an hour to shiver nicely, and 2 hours to shiver
hard."
MID: <***@red.lan>
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2017-02-17 17:42:58 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.

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In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
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James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-17 20:49:29 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
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In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs
too.
It's none of yours, Birdbrain!
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2017-02-20 07:02:14 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.

I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.

Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check

Andy
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2017-02-20 09:53:34 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.

I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.

Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check

Andy

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Exactly:)

We both have access because we have the relevant certs, but no one else.
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James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-20 16:28:09 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
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2017-02-20 16:35:20 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-20 16:48:48 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
Just hide the gun. I doubt the wankers would inspect every part of your house.
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:48:48 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
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Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
Just hide the gun. I doubt the wankers would inspect every part of your house.
I seriously doubt they are wankers like you, Birdbrain!
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2017-02-21 06:50:34 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
Just hide the gun. I doubt the wankers would inspect every part of your house.
Oh they would search.
They know what guns I own, they have a full list. If they audit and fail
to find the gun I could be subject to a complete property search and be
in one huge pile of trouble unless I have a very good reason with
evidence of where it is (like out being serviced at a gunsmith with
receipt from smith and a police phone call to verify).

Andy
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2017-02-21 15:16:31 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
Just hide the gun. I doubt the wankers would inspect every part of your house.
Oh they would search.
They know what guns I own, they have a full list. If they audit and fail
to find the gun I could be subject to a complete property search and be
in one huge pile of trouble unless I have a very good reason with
evidence of where it is (like out being serviced at a gunsmith with
receipt from smith and a police phone call to verify).
They actually have a list?! Bloody hell.
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2017-02-21 15:53:29 UTC
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:16:31 -0000, Birdbrain Macaw (now "James Wilkinson"),
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Oh they would search.
They know what guns I own, they have a full list. If they audit and fail
to find the gun I could be subject to a complete property search and be
in one huge pile of trouble unless I have a very good reason with
evidence of where it is (like out being serviced at a gunsmith with
receipt from smith and a police phone call to verify).
They actually have a list?! Bloody hell.
Why, poor idiot?
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"I'm comparing being able to tell the difference between 21 and 12 to being
able to tell the difference between 21 and 12. If you think that it's easy
to think a 12 year old is 21, it's only fair to use it as a reason when you
get caught fucking a 12 year old, which you mistook to be 21."
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2017-02-20 16:49:20 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
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2017-02-20 17:38:30 UTC
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Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too
late.
ANY help for you is obviously too late already, Birdbrain!
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.

Andy
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2017-02-21 07:24:23 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
Andy
Agreed.
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2017-02-21 11:58:35 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
Andy
Agreed.

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He argues for the sake of it.

Heck what else does he have?
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2017-02-21 15:17:34 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
WTF? It was a sensible point. Why have a gun that you cannot access immediately you need to use it?
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6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable
thumbs
too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
WTF? It was a sensible point. Why have a gun that you cannot access
immediately you need to use it?
No it wasn't a sensible point. You've contradicted yourself. You've
already agreed that in the UK we don't own guns for self defence.
If you shoot someone deliberately then you *will* be prosecuted and
nicked for either GBH/ murder or manslaughter....whichever is applicable.
I'm sure that Ophelia will confirm this.
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2017-02-21 15:51:46 UTC
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6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable
thumbs
too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
WTF? It was a sensible point. Why have a gun that you cannot access
immediately you need to use it?
No it wasn't a sensible point. You've contradicted yourself. You've
already agreed that in the UK we don't own guns for self defence.
If you shoot someone deliberately then you *will* be prosecuted and
nicked for either GBH/ murder or manslaughter....whichever is applicable.
I'm sure that Ophelia will confirm this.
I actually thought ALL guns were illegal now in the UK.

Anyway, the only possible point in having a gun is to shoot a bad guy. If we can have them but have to lock them up, we might aswell not have one at all.
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www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying
around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable
thumbs
too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
WTF? It was a sensible point. Why have a gun that you cannot access
immediately you need to use it?
No it wasn't a sensible point. You've contradicted yourself. You've
already agreed that in the UK we don't own guns for self defence.
If you shoot someone deliberately then you *will* be prosecuted and
nicked for either GBH/ murder or manslaughter....whichever is applicable.
I'm sure that Ophelia will confirm this.
I actually thought
LOL!!!
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world:
"I've had my fingers unable to operate the key to unlock my car (after
swimming in ice water for a couple of hours and running around the mountains
naked in a blizzard). But it's not uncomfortable."
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America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners
liable if
their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just
laying
around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable
thumbs
too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
WTF? It was a sensible point. Why have a gun that you cannot access
immediately you need to use it?
No it wasn't a sensible point. You've contradicted yourself. You've
already agreed that in the UK we don't own guns for self defence.
If you shoot someone deliberately then you *will* be prosecuted and
nicked for either GBH/ murder or manslaughter....whichever is applicable.
I'm sure that Ophelia will confirm this.
I actually thought ALL guns were illegal now in the UK.
Anyway, the only possible point in having a gun is to shoot a bad guy.
If we can have them but have to lock them up, we might aswell not have
one at all.
You *did* know that they are legal because Ophelia described the
criteria for storing a gun in the UK and you replied to her.

I also said "Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules,
you forfeit your gun licence" and you also replied to my post.
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6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners
liable if
their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just
laying
around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable
thumbs
too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
WTF? It was a sensible point. Why have a gun that you cannot access
immediately you need to use it?
No it wasn't a sensible point. You've contradicted yourself. You've
already agreed that in the UK we don't own guns for self defence.
If you shoot someone deliberately then you *will* be prosecuted and
nicked for either GBH/ murder or manslaughter....whichever is applicable.
I'm sure that Ophelia will confirm this.
I actually thought ALL guns were illegal now in the UK.
Anyway, the only possible point in having a gun is to shoot a bad guy.
If we can have them but have to lock them up, we might aswell not have
one at all.
You *did* know that they are legal because Ophelia described the
criteria for storing a gun in the UK and you replied to her.
I also said "Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules,
you forfeit your gun licence" and you also replied to my post.
I meant before this thread. I know farmers used to have them, my uncle did. I thought they'd abolished that.

Anyway, if he's got a gun and can't use it to protect himself because it's locked away, the gun is useless.
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You *did* know that they are legal because Ophelia described the
criteria for storing a gun in the UK and you replied to her.
I also said "Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules,
you forfeit your gun licence" and you also replied to my post.
I meant before this thread. I know farmers used to have them, my uncle
did. I thought they'd abolished that.
Anyway, if he's got a gun and can't use it to protect himself because
it's locked away, the gun is useless.
He CAN use it, idiot!
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That's poor trolling even by your low standard.
WTF? It was a sensible point.
ONLY by a retarded troll's standard, retard!
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Why have a gun that you cannot access immediately you need to use it?
What an idiot! <BG>
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
You've previously stated that you agree with our strict gun laws, have
you changed your mind now then ?
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2017-02-21 15:16:57 UTC
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Erm, it's the law. If you don't comply with their rules, you forfeit
your gun licence.
So, you need to defend yourself and have to find the key, unlock the
safe, run around collecting all the bits, then, oh nevermind it's too late.
You've previously stated that you agree with our strict gun laws, have
you changed your mind now then ?
No, but I just don't see the point in a locked up gun at all. It's even more useless.
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You've previously stated that you agree with our strict gun laws, have
you changed your mind now then ?
No, but I just don't see the point in a locked up gun at all. It's even more useless.
That's because you are a REAL idiot, Birdbrain!
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I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Are you REALLY as idiotic as you sound, Birdbrain?
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world:
"I've had my fingers unable to operate the key to unlock my car (after
swimming in ice water for a couple of hours and running around the mountains
naked in a blizzard). But it's not uncomfortable."
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids in
America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely to be
unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners liable if their
guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the finger
guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action for the
rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the spares
held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Do you really distrust your kids that much?
Troll or Idiot?
Posts a question about safety and children, gets evidence of legally
required precautions in return. Regards evidence not as proof of
compliance with the law and care for the children but instead as lack of
trust in children.
I'm going for Troll this time, possibly idiotic troll.

Andy
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Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their
love of guns.
Guns are safe as long as you're sober ;-)
www.ibtimes.com/accidental-gun-deaths-involving-children-are-major-problem-us-2...
6 Jan 2016 - Last year, 265 people were accidentally shot by kids
in America. ... This makes American children 16 times more likely
to be unintentionally killed by a gun, ... held firearm owners
liable if their guns were accessed by children.
====
In UK we lose lose our firearms certificate if it were just laying around.
We can get FO coming to check unannounced.
So where can you put it that your kids can't get to it? We're not
talking about hiding something from a pet, kids have opposable thumbs too.
I have a gun cupboard with a locked door with a chain through the
finger guard, the ammo goes in a safe (combination) and the action
for the rifles is stored in a combination lock box.
All three bits only come together when I am ready to shoot.
I alone know the combinations and I have the only keys with the
spares held by a friend off site.
Kids can get to it but only if they have heavy duty grinders, bolt
cutters, diamond tipped drills and /or explosives.
The firearms officers can call in at any time to check
Andy
The Empire is dead for a reason.
By the time you put it all together your "women" folk
will be butt fucked for the conversion to islam and your
throat will be cut.
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get one
free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Having spent a lot of time there I don't think that is generally true.
We get a distorted picture of America and Americans from the media, just
as they do of here etc.

Go to parts of France and you may be surprised by the gun (hunting)
culture. For 'murderous' looking knives, visited southern France.
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get one
free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their love of
guns.
Having spent a lot of time there I don't think that is generally true.
We get a distorted picture of America and Americans from the media, just
as they do of here etc.
alt.home.repair seems to contain 90% gun lovers.
Post by Brian Reay
Go to parts of France and you may be surprised by the gun (hunting)
culture. For 'murderous' looking knives, visited southern France.
I've been to France several times and not seen one gun.
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Having spent a lot of time there I don't think that is generally true.
We get a distorted picture of America and Americans from the media, just
as they do of here etc.
alt.home.repair seems to contain 90% gun lovers.
...but only ONE idiotic troll, Birdbrain!
Post by James Wilkinson Sword
Post by Brian Reay
Go to parts of France and you may be surprised by the gun (hunting)
culture. For 'murderous' looking knives, visited southern France.
I've been to France several times and not seen one gun.
Yeah, you are a known asshole!
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world:
"Having read the utter bullshit about dying if you fall in a freezing lake
for 15 minutes, I've tried it on many occasions. It takes 30 minutes to
even get chattering teeth, an hour to shiver nicely, and 2 hours to shiver
hard."
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Post by The Todal
Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis
would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with
different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all
follow suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not
whole States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I
was told there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc,
there just aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy
guns and ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of
gin or whiskey. The rules may seem strange but they aren't
unreasonable and it
is their country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get
one free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their
love of guns.
Having spent a lot of time there I don't think that is generally
true. We get a distorted picture of America and Americans from the
media, just as they do of here etc.
alt.home.repair seems to contain 90% gun lovers.
Post by Brian Reay
Go to parts of France and you may be surprised by the gun (hunting)
culture. For 'murderous' looking knives, visited southern France.
I've been to France several times and not seen one gun.
Was this when you were signing on the dole and trying to claim invalidity?
Wanker.
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Post by The Todal
Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up
from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I
used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis
would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all
follow suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not
whole States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I
was told there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc,
there just aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy
guns and ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of
gin or whiskey. The rules may seem strange but they aren't
unreasonable and it
is their country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get
one free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
Indeed, Americans have become too casual and gung ho with their
love of guns.
Having spent a lot of time there I don't think that is generally
true. We get a distorted picture of America and Americans from the
media, just as they do of here etc.
alt.home.repair seems to contain 90% gun lovers.
Post by Brian Reay
Go to parts of France and you may be surprised by the gun (hunting)
culture. For 'murderous' looking knives, visited southern France.
I've been to France several times and not seen one gun.
Was this when you were signing on the dole and trying to claim invalidity?
Wanker.
You really are a terrible stalker.
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Was this when you were signing on the dole and trying to claim invalidity?
Wanker.
You really are a terrible stalker.
So you DID try to claim invalidity, Birdbrain? On what grounds? Because of
your psychological handicaps, you fucked up piece of Scottish shit? <BG>
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I've been to France several times and not seen one gun.
You clearly don't visit the hunting areas. Lots of guns.

Andy
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Post by Graham T
According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The
stuff I toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that
which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all
follow suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not
whole States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was
told there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there
just aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns
and ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or
whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is
their country.
Indeed it is. Mind you, they have a point, guns n booze are not a good mix.
True but it was the way ammo was on offer like beans, buy one get one
free, which struck me. I'm not anti-gun, it just seems strange.
proof?
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Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket,
Cite?
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Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket,
Cite?
Walmart have a guns and ammo section in many supermarkets. They only
sell rifles no but used to sell handguns having moved more into the
'sporting' gun market.

As for a cite just go to the Walmart website and search for guns and/or
ammo.
You get a long list all titled "In Store Purchase Only" for the
firearms, air weapons can be mail order.

<https://www.walmart.com/browse/sports-outdoors/firearms/4125_546956_1107532_1225336/?_refineresult=true&povid=cat1107532-env538992-moduleB082813-lLinkFC1Firearms>


I was interested to see that they have one of my air rifles for sale and
it costs a helluva lot less to buy in Walmart than I paid for it. Less
than half the price.
I need a new firearm rifle and it is going to cost me a lot more than
you can buy at the supermarket in the US. That is going to annoy me

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I need a new firearm rifle and it is going to cost me a lot more than
you can buy at the supermarket in the US. That is going to annoy me
You don't need one. No civilized person needs a gun.
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I need a new firearm rifle and it is going to cost me a lot more than
you can buy at the supermarket in the US. That is going to annoy me
You don't need one. No civilized person needs a gun.
... and yet I have 4. 2 shotgun and 2 rifle.

I note with interest that you snipped the request and reply where you
asked for proof that US Supermarkets sell guns and ammo. Just in case
this was a mistake I'll post it here again.
You're welcome
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Post by AndyW
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket,
Cite?
Walmart have a guns and ammo section in many supermarkets. They only
sell rifles no but used to sell handguns having moved more into the
'sporting' gun market.

As for a cite just go to the Walmart website and search for guns and/or
ammo.
You get a long list all titled "In Store Purchase Only" for the
firearms, air weapons can be mail order.

<https://www.walmart.com/browse/sports-outdoors/firearms/4125_546956_1107532_1225336/?_refineresult=true&povid=cat1107532-env538992-moduleB082813-lLinkFC1Firearms>
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Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket,
Cite?
http://www.denverbullets.com/

Well I suppose it is a gun supermarket - sells ammo', sawn offs, machine guns etc. One of many in Denver.
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Post by Brian Reay
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns
and ammo in a supermarket,
Cite?
http://www.denverbullets.com/
Well I suppose it is a gun supermarket - sells ammo', sawn offs,
machine guns etc. One of many in Denver.
That is not a supermarket.

su·per·mar·ket
/ˈso͞opərˌmärkət/
noun

noun: supermarket; plural noun: supermarkets

a large self-service store selling foods and household goods.
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Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket,
Cite?
https://www.walmart.com/browse/sports-outdoors/firearms/4125_546956_1107532_1225336
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
they are extremely unreasonable.
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I've only come across one, in Kentucky (near Fort Knox) but I was told
there are others. You can have alcohol in you home etc, there just
aren't any bars or shops which sell it.
Even in large cities, you will find places where you can buy guns and
ammo in a supermarket, beer, wine, but not a bottle of gin or whiskey.
The rules may seem strange but they aren't unreasonable and it is their
country.
they are extremely unreasonable.
For a drunkard, a drug-addict and an idiot like you, yes!
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
They call them 'dry counties'.
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
They call them 'dry counties'.
I see.
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
I agree. In many US states the shelves are lined with different strains
of weed and the customer is given good advice about what type and what
strength to buy.
AFAIK only 8 states have legalised it so far. Will they all follow
suit, and how long will it take?
Probably not. Remember, there are still parts of the US (not whole
States) where you can't buy alcohol.
Wow, I didn't know that.
They call them 'dry counties'.
Why does anyone live there?
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They call them 'dry counties'.
Why does anyone live there?
How would an idiot like you understand?
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
+1
It's not just strength but also taste taste. If it's strong then go
easy, enjoy the taste but don't ban it for those that want it or it
will go black market again.
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
If it is now 20 times as strong why don't people use take 1/20 the
amount. i.e. the right amount for the buzz they want.

I mean whisky is 10 times as strong as beer but we just drink it in
shots rather than pints.

I don't really understand this psychosis argument but I think they are
referring to people repeatedly taking large doses as opposed to someone
taking a large dose by mistake, aren't they?
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
If it is now 20 times as strong why don't people use take 1/20 the
amount. i.e. the right amount for the buzz they want.
I mean whisky is 10 times as strong as beer but we just drink it in
shots rather than pints.
I don't really understand this psychosis argument but I think they are
referring to people repeatedly taking large doses as opposed to someone
taking a large dose by mistake, aren't they?
The "psychosis argument" is that many people are susceptible to
psychosis if they take psychoactive recreational drugs, and it isn't
usually possible to identify such people before they become psychotic.

As I think we all know, those of us who are tokers, much of the weed on
the streets has been mixed with other substances to make up the weight.
I think "spice" (the formula for which regularly changes) is cheaper
than weed, so maybe that's used to make up the weight sometimes.
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As I think we all know, those of us who are tokers, much of the weed on
the streets has been mixed with other substances to make up the weight.
I think "spice" (the formula for which regularly changes) is cheaper
than weed, so maybe that's used to make up the weight sometimes.
I have recently heard that under some new law just having a trace of
weed in your blood while driving in enough to get people knicked? So
how long does it take for the trace to disappear from a persons blood?
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
If it is now 20 times as strong why don't people use take 1/20 the
amount. i.e. the right amount for the buzz they want.
I mean whisky is 10 times as strong as beer but we just drink it in
shots rather than pints.
I don't really understand this psychosis argument but I think they are
referring to people repeatedly taking large doses as opposed to someone
taking a large dose by mistake, aren't they?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26988-skunks-psychosis-link-is-only-half-the-cannabis-story/
16 February 2015
Skunk’s psychosis link is only half the cannabis story

... Researchers explored factors affecting psychosis in 410 people
diagnosed with the condition for the first time, comparing their
lifestyles with those of 370 controls who’d never had psychosis.

They found that psychosis was three times more likely in those who
smoked high-potency skunk cannabis, compared with non-users.
“In daily users of skunk the risk rose fivefold,” says Robin Murray of
King’s College London, who co-led the team. People who smoked
low-potency hash, by contrast, were no more likely to experience
psychosis than non-users, suggesting skunk was the culprit.

What is it that makes skunk disproportionately harmful?

Basically, it is far richer than hash in delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol,
or THC, the ingredient that creates the drug’s high but which also
triggers psychosis. Even more important, skunk contains hardly any
of a substance called cannabidiol, or CBD, which has been shown
to counteract the psychotic effects of THC. “In traditional hash, the
proportions of THC and CBD are about equal, at 4 per cent each,”
explains Amir Englund of King’s College London, who was not
involved in the study. “In skunk, THC reaches around 14 to 15 per cent,
while CBC tumbles to barely a trace,” he says.

How come there’s so much THC in skunk?

Both substances are made in the marijuana plant from the same
starting material, called cannabigerol, so if the content of one goes
up, the other goes down. In hash, typically grown under natural
conditions in north Africa, the cannabigerol is converted equally into
both.

But producers in the UK have bred strains in which the enzyme for
making THC is more dominant, generating cannabis with much higher
THC content and much lower CBD content as a result. ...
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26988-skunks-psychosis-link-is-only-half-the-cannabis-story/
16 February 2015
Skunk’s psychosis link is only half the cannabis story
Very interesting. I don't think I had seen that before.
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
If it is now 20 times as strong why don't people use take 1/20 the
amount. i.e. the right amount for the buzz they want.
I mean whisky is 10 times as strong as beer but we just drink it in
shots rather than pints.
I don't really understand this psychosis argument but I think they are
referring to people repeatedly taking large doses as opposed to someone
taking a large dose by mistake, aren't they?
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26988-skunks-psychosis-link-is-only-half-the-cannabis-story/
16 February 2015
Skunk’s psychosis link is only half the cannabis story
... Researchers explored factors affecting psychosis in 410 people
diagnosed with the condition for the first time, comparing their
lifestyles with those of 370 controls who’d never had psychosis.
They found that psychosis was three times more likely in those who
smoked high-potency skunk cannabis, compared with non-users.
Or that psychotics were three times more likely to partake of skunk?
Post by pensive hamster
“In daily users of skunk the risk rose fivefold,” says Robin Murray of
King’s College London, who co-led the team. People who smoked
low-potency hash, by contrast, were no more likely to experience
psychosis than non-users, suggesting skunk was the culprit.
What is it that makes skunk disproportionately harmful?
Basically, it is far richer than hash in delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol,
or THC, the ingredient that creates the drug’s high but which also
triggers psychosis. Even more important, skunk contains hardly any
of a substance called cannabidiol, or CBD, which has been shown
to counteract the psychotic effects of THC. “In traditional hash, the
proportions of THC and CBD are about equal, at 4 per cent each,”
explains Amir Englund of King’s College London, who was not
involved in the study. “In skunk, THC reaches around 14 to 15 per cent,
while CBC tumbles to barely a trace,” he says.
How come there’s so much THC in skunk?
Both substances are made in the marijuana plant from the same
starting material, called cannabigerol, so if the content of one goes
up, the other goes down. In hash, typically grown under natural
conditions in north Africa, the cannabigerol is converted equally into
both.
But producers in the UK have bred strains in which the enzyme for
making THC is more dominant, generating cannabis with much higher
THC content and much lower CBD content as a result. ...
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26988-skunks-psychosis-link-is-only-half-the-cannabis-story/
16 February 2015
Skunk’s psychosis link is only half the cannabis story
... Researchers explored factors affecting psychosis in 410 people
diagnosed with the condition for the first time, comparing their
lifestyles with those of 370 controls who’d never had psychosis.
They found that psychosis was three times more likely in those who
smoked high-potency skunk cannabis, compared with non-users.
Or that psychotics were three times more likely to partake of skunk?
It could be, I suppose. But that would suggest that psychosis
may tend to cause skunk smoking, rather than the other way
around. Could be a bit of both, though.

Someone will be along soon to say "coincidence is not causation",
which is traditional in these sorts of discussions.
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26988-skunks-psychosis-link-is-only-half-the-cannabis-story/
16 February 2015
Skunk’s psychosis link is only half the cannabis story
They found that psychosis was three times more likely in those who
smoked high-potency skunk cannabis,
What is it that makes skunk disproportionately harmful?
How come there’s so much THC in skunk?
'Skunk' is just a generic name given to a certain strain of cannabis.
When and how did 'skunk' suddenly become a term for strong cannabis?
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26988-skunks-psychosis-link-is-only-half-the-cannabis-story/
16 February 2015
Skunk’s psychosis link is only half the cannabis story
They found that psychosis was three times more likely in those who
smoked high-potency skunk cannabis,
What is it that makes skunk disproportionately harmful?
How come there’s so much THC in skunk?
'Skunk' is just a generic name given to a certain strain of cannabis.
When and how did 'skunk' suddenly become a term for strong cannabis?
According to:
http://www.drugwise.org.uk/skunk/

' ... The name Skunk itself points to a USA connection (being
so-called because of the pungent odour it emits while growing).'

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk

'Skunks are mammals known for their ability to spray a liquid
with a strong odor.'
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https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26988-skunks-psychosis-link-is-only-half-the-cannabis-story/
16 February 2015
Skunk’s psychosis link is only half the cannabis story
They found that psychosis was three times more likely in those who
smoked high-potency skunk cannabis,
What is it that makes skunk disproportionately harmful?
How come there’s so much THC in skunk?
'Skunk' is just a generic name given to a certain strain of cannabis.
When and how did 'skunk' suddenly become a term for strong cannabis?
http://www.drugwise.org.uk/skunk/
' ... The name Skunk itself points to a USA connection (being
so-called because of the pungent odour it emits while growing).'
From that same link:

"Skunk is the generic name often used by the press and police to
describe a potent form of the cannabis plant"

This is where the incorrect usage of the term 'skunk' originated from.

Again, from the same link:

"In fact skunk is only one of 100 or so varieties of cannabis plant
which have high levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)"

Which is a much better explanation, but far from perfect. 'Skunk' was
a strain that had a distinctive odor. You can still buy skunk strains
(it has evolved over the decades), but there are thousands of pungent,
strong smelling strains of cannabis that are not skunk.
AndyW
2017-02-17 07:03:55 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
If it is now 20 times as strong why don't people use take 1/20 the
amount. i.e. the right amount for the buzz they want.
I mean whisky is 10 times as strong as beer but we just drink it in
shots rather than pints.
I don't really understand this psychosis argument but I think they are
referring to people repeatedly taking large doses as opposed to someone
taking a large dose by mistake, aren't they?
The psychosis arguement rages over whether it causes psychosis or
reveals existing psychosis. Mental illnesses are higher among those who
take cannabis regularly than those who do not. However there is a higher
rate of illness among those who visit hospitals.
The arguement is whether cannabis/hospitals cause psychosis/illness or
whether people with psychosis/illness are more likely than the general
population to use cannabis/hospitals.

then strength and frequency is added to the mix just for confusion.

Andy
Jeßus
2017-02-17 21:12:45 UTC
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I don't really understand this psychosis argument but I think they are
referring to people repeatedly taking large doses as opposed to someone
taking a large dose by mistake, aren't they?
Yes. And no mention that some people have underlying psychological
issues aggravated by heavy cannabis use. They imply cannabis causes it
instead.
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2017-02-17 07:01:22 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
But wouldn't there still be a demand for higher strengths than the
officially approved ones?
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Svenne
2017-02-17 07:06:43 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
But wouldn't there still be a demand for higher strengths than the
officially approved ones?
There probably still would be a demand for skunk in a legal system. There
should be a warning on the packets, just as there should be a warning on
bottles of spirits.
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2017-02-17 08:15:13 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
Cannabis fucks up your brain.
Now we know what's wrong with yours.
Bod
2017-02-17 08:51:52 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
Cannabis fucks up your brain.
Now we know what's wrong with yours.
In most people it does not do that.
James Wilkinson Sword
2017-02-17 14:29:31 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
Cannabis fucks up your brain.
Now we know what's wrong with yours.
In most people it does not do that.
I can't believe it does in anyone, the ones that "do" are probably already fucked.
--
A lady says to her doctor: "My husband has a habit of talking in his sleep! What should I give him to cure it?"
The doctor replies: "Give him the opportunity to speak while he's awake!"
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In most people it does not do that.
I can't believe it does in anyone, the ones that "do" are probably already fucked.
It certainly does! And the two of you are a case in point!
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"Anyone without Hoplophobia is a mass murderer."
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
Perhaps your tolerance has increased.
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it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
Typical fucking socialist needing the government to control
everything in your life for you.

Perhaps without the dope you might coud make decisins for yourself.
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics? The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.

If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
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2017-02-17 21:09:44 UTC
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According to the article Cannabis strength has gone up from 1.2 in Ye
Olden days to 22% now. Is it possible or scare tactics?
Scare tactics and gross oversimplifications of the facts.

Nobody has ever died from cannabis consumption either. There is no
known toxic dose.
Post by Graham T
The stuff I
toke doesn't give me any different buzz from that which I used in the
1960s.
If strength is really a problem then legalising Cannabis would be ideal
as it could be sold in goverment approved strengths
Yes, the 'strength' is irrelevant. The balance of THC and CBN etc.
*might* be an issue though, most breeding for recreational use has
focused on increasing THC over other cannabinoids. Might be... might
not be.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38994637
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