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2017-10-05 09:28:07 UTC
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Why the European establishment hates the Second Amendment

The European political establishment hates the Second Amendment for its
ultimate repudiation of big government.
To understand the European viewpoint, consider the debate on Britain's Sky
News channel, Tuesday evening, between liberal columnist Yasmin
Alibhai-Brown and libertarian editor Brendan O'Neill.

As O'Neill calmly outlined why gun ownership represents positive individual
freedom, Alibhai-Brown quickly lost her cool, "That is not a moral
position!" she shouted, adding that the Second Amendment was designed for a
time "When [Americans] were massacring Native Americans ... hundreds of
thousands of people were being killed." The journalist, who was "really
depressed" when Bin Laden was killed, then delivered her punch line, "Change
your mind, you'll still be a man."

Sorry, Yasmin, but 19th century Native American history is more complicated
than genocide, and penis size has nothing to do with gun ownership. (Indeed,
that's an insult to the tens of thousands of British vacationers who see gun
ranges as required stops!)

Alibhai-Brown continued her tirade: "Don't put the shine of morality on your
position!" she told O'Neill, "It is a deeply immoral position. To be so
brainwashed about the Second Amendment that you don't see what you need to
see!"

Note the Orwellian history-purge quality of Alibhai-Brown's words: "You
don't see what you need to see." Alibhai-Brown has no interest in
persuasion, only in re-education. The columnist then emphasized her point,
stating, "No other western democracy feels the need to have the arming of
its citizens."

Remember, this notion of "need" sits at the heart of left-wing ideology.
Karl Marx explained that government must allocate power to individuals,
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Indeed, she believes that government, not individuals, must shape what is
and what is not freedom. And be under no illusions, this European
perspective applies equally to speech as it does to guns.

Nevertheless, there's an insipid quality to this overconfidence in
government. Consider the 2011 London riots, where, for three days, thousands
of criminals ran rampant through the streets, stores, and gardens of the
British capital. Families were abandoned to mob rule and, if only for a
moment, British society flirted with anarchy.

While Americans should not ignore gun violence problems, gun control won't
balance freedom with greater security. Instead, we must address the outsized
proportion of gun violence attributable to young minority men, and the roots
of that violence in collapsing families.
abelard
2017-10-05 09:38:11 UTC
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Why the European establishment hates the Second Amendment
The European political establishment hates the Second Amendment for its
ultimate repudiation of big government.
To understand the European viewpoint, consider the debate on Britain's Sky
News channel, Tuesday evening, between liberal columnist Yasmin
Alibhai-Brown and libertarian editor Brendan O'Neill.
As O'Neill calmly outlined why gun ownership represents positive individual
freedom, Alibhai-Brown quickly lost her cool, "That is not a moral
position!" she shouted, adding that the Second Amendment was designed for a
time "When [Americans] were massacring Native Americans ... hundreds of
thousands of people were being killed." The journalist, who was "really
depressed" when Bin Laden was killed, then delivered her punch line, "Change
your mind, you'll still be a man."
Sorry, Yasmin, but 19th century Native American history is more complicated
than genocide, and penis size has nothing to do with gun ownership. (Indeed,
that's an insult to the tens of thousands of British vacationers who see gun
ranges as required stops!)
Alibhai-Brown continued her tirade: "Don't put the shine of morality on your
position!" she told O'Neill, "It is a deeply immoral position. To be so
brainwashed about the Second Amendment that you don't see what you need to
see!"
Note the Orwellian history-purge quality of Alibhai-Brown's words: "You
don't see what you need to see." Alibhai-Brown has no interest in
persuasion, only in re-education. The columnist then emphasized her point,
stating, "No other western democracy feels the need to have the arming of
its citizens."
Remember, this notion of "need" sits at the heart of left-wing ideology.
Karl Marx explained that government must allocate power to individuals,
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Indeed, she believes that government, not individuals, must shape what is
and what is not freedom. And be under no illusions, this European
perspective applies equally to speech as it does to guns.
Nevertheless, there's an insipid quality to this overconfidence in
government. Consider the 2011 London riots, where, for three days, thousands
of criminals ran rampant through the streets, stores, and gardens of the
British capital. Families were abandoned to mob rule and, if only for a
moment, British society flirted with anarchy.
While Americans should not ignore gun violence problems, gun control won't
balance freedom with greater security. Instead, we must address the outsized
proportion of gun violence attributable to young minority men, and the roots
of that violence in collapsing families.
facts are hate crimes to lefties...

alibi brown votes for her chosen strong shepherds....not for freedom

trying to explain guns to sheep is a forlorn ambition....it requires
foresight...a thing children lack
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2017-10-05 18:08:34 UTC
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Why the European establishment hates the Second Amendment
The European political establishment hates the Second Amendment for its
ultimate repudiation of big government.
To understand the European viewpoint, consider the debate on Britain's Sky
News channel, Tuesday evening, between liberal columnist Yasmin
Alibhai-Brown and libertarian editor Brendan O'Neill.
As O'Neill calmly outlined why gun ownership represents positive individual
freedom, Alibhai-Brown quickly lost her cool, "That is not a moral
position!" she shouted, adding that the Second Amendment was designed for a
time "When [Americans] were massacring Native Americans ... hundreds of
thousands of people were being killed." The journalist, who was "really
depressed" when Bin Laden was killed, then delivered her punch line, "Change
your mind, you'll still be a man."
Sorry, Yasmin, but 19th century Native American history is more complicated
than genocide, and penis size has nothing to do with gun ownership. (Indeed,
that's an insult to the tens of thousands of British vacationers who see gun
ranges as required stops!)
Alibhai-Brown continued her tirade: "Don't put the shine of morality on your
position!" she told O'Neill, "It is a deeply immoral position. To be so
brainwashed about the Second Amendment that you don't see what you need to
see!"
Note the Orwellian history-purge quality of Alibhai-Brown's words: "You
don't see what you need to see." Alibhai-Brown has no interest in
persuasion, only in re-education. The columnist then emphasized her point,
stating, "No other western democracy feels the need to have the arming of
its citizens."
Remember, this notion of "need" sits at the heart of left-wing ideology.
Karl Marx explained that government must allocate power to individuals,
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Indeed, she believes that government, not individuals, must shape what is
and what is not freedom. And be under no illusions, this European
perspective applies equally to speech as it does to guns.
Nevertheless, there's an insipid quality to this overconfidence in
government. Consider the 2011 London riots, where, for three days, thousands
of criminals ran rampant through the streets, stores, and gardens of the
British capital. Families were abandoned to mob rule and, if only for a
moment, British society flirted with anarchy.
While Americans should not ignore gun violence problems, gun control won't
balance freedom with greater security. Instead, we must address the outsized
proportion of gun violence attributable to young minority men, and the roots
of that violence in collapsing families.
facts are hate crimes to lefties...
alibi brown votes for her chosen strong shepherds....not for freedom
trying to explain guns to sheep is a forlorn ambition....it requires
foresight...a thing children lack
Oh! you great big wolf with your great big dick I mean gun.

I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
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2017-10-05 20:09:37 UTC
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Why the European establishment hates the Second Amendment
The European political establishment hates the Second Amendment for its
ultimate repudiation of big government.
To understand the European viewpoint, consider the debate on Britain's Sky
News channel, Tuesday evening, between liberal columnist Yasmin
Alibhai-Brown and libertarian editor Brendan O'Neill.
As O'Neill calmly outlined why gun ownership represents positive individual
freedom, Alibhai-Brown quickly lost her cool, "That is not a moral
position!" she shouted, adding that the Second Amendment was designed for a
time "When [Americans] were massacring Native Americans ... hundreds of
thousands of people were being killed." The journalist, who was "really
depressed" when Bin Laden was killed, then delivered her punch line, "Change
your mind, you'll still be a man."
Sorry, Yasmin, but 19th century Native American history is more complicated
than genocide, and penis size has nothing to do with gun ownership. (Indeed,
that's an insult to the tens of thousands of British vacationers who see gun
ranges as required stops!)
Alibhai-Brown continued her tirade: "Don't put the shine of morality on your
position!" she told O'Neill, "It is a deeply immoral position. To be so
brainwashed about the Second Amendment that you don't see what you need to
see!"
Note the Orwellian history-purge quality of Alibhai-Brown's words: "You
don't see what you need to see." Alibhai-Brown has no interest in
persuasion, only in re-education. The columnist then emphasized her point,
stating, "No other western democracy feels the need to have the arming of
its citizens."
Remember, this notion of "need" sits at the heart of left-wing ideology.
Karl Marx explained that government must allocate power to individuals,
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Indeed, she believes that government, not individuals, must shape what is
and what is not freedom. And be under no illusions, this European
perspective applies equally to speech as it does to guns.
Nevertheless, there's an insipid quality to this overconfidence in
government. Consider the 2011 London riots, where, for three days, thousands
of criminals ran rampant through the streets, stores, and gardens of the
British capital. Families were abandoned to mob rule and, if only for a
moment, British society flirted with anarchy.
While Americans should not ignore gun violence problems, gun control won't
balance freedom with greater security. Instead, we must address the outsized
proportion of gun violence attributable to young minority men, and the roots
of that violence in collapsing families.
facts are hate crimes to lefties...
alibi brown votes for her chosen strong shepherds....not for freedom
trying to explain guns to sheep is a forlorn ambition....it requires
foresight...a thing children lack
Oh! you great big wolf with your great big dick I mean gun.
just because your are a very small pussy cat of indeterminate
gender does not mean you can replace your limitations with
a bigger transferred dick...it would weigh you down or
drag on the floor...
as for guns, they'd be too heavy for your little paws...

if you really feel deprived, try a blade of grass or a suitable twig
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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
that's amazing...of course everyone else does want that
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2017-10-05 21:02:09 UTC
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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
that's amazing...of course everyone else does want that
There you go then. All in favour say I. End of gun problem.

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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
that's amazing...of course everyone else does want that
There you go then. All in favour say I. End of gun problem.
on this, you're such a cross little pussy

have the neighbours been taking shots at you?
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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
that's amazing...of course everyone else does want that
There you go then. All in favour say I. End of gun problem.
on this, you're such a cross little pussy
Not cross. Happy with situation in UK. I can't help but feel some
empathy towards the innocents involved. Anywhere in the world.
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have the neighbours been taking shots at you?
Actually, at our house in London I did get fired at by a kid with an air
rifle while I was repairing the shed roof. Not funny. If it had been a
real gun I might have lost a leg. Owning a gun wouldn't have saved me.
Outlawing guns did that. Never underestimate the butt fucking stupidity
of others and your ability to control that.

Carry on Sergeant.

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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
that's amazing...of course everyone else does want that
There you go then. All in favour say I. End of gun problem.
on this, you're such a cross little pussy
Not cross. Happy with situation in UK. I can't help but feel some
empathy towards the innocents involved. Anywhere in the world.
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have the neighbours been taking shots at you?
Actually, at our house in London I did get fired at by a kid with an air
rifle while I was repairing the shed roof. Not funny. If it had been a
real gun I might have lost a leg. Owning a gun wouldn't have saved me.
Outlawing guns did that. Never underestimate the butt fucking stupidity
of others and your ability to control that.
Carry on Sergeant.
why do you use the word 'repairing'? and what right have you
to prowl around on roofs
and next time don't make such a racket while you're at it...

do you have 9 legs or is that another old cat's tail?
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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
that's amazing...of course everyone else does want that
There you go then. All in favour say I. End of gun problem.
on this, you're such a cross little pussy
Not cross. Happy with situation in UK. I can't help but feel some
empathy towards the innocents involved. Anywhere in the world.
Post by abelard
have the neighbours been taking shots at you?
Actually, at our house in London I did get fired at by a kid with an air
rifle while I was repairing the shed roof. Not funny. If it had been a
real gun I might have lost a leg. Owning a gun wouldn't have saved me.
Outlawing guns did that. Never underestimate the butt fucking stupidity
of others and your ability to control that.
Carry on Sergeant.
why do you use the word 'repairing'? and what right have you
to prowl around on roofs
and next time don't make such a racket while you're at it...
Lets see if dv*s whatever the fuk his nym is chastises you for changing
the subject. You are a true believer ab. Every religion has get out
clauses and boy have you gunnies got a bundle of those.
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do you have 9 legs or is that another old cat's tail?
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I have nothing against Americans shooting Americans, in fact as a
result you could say that I'm a firm supporter of the second
amendment in the USA. The 2a is all about Americans killing
Americans on American soil. What could be more patriotic than
that? And thanks to the 2a, their right wing Jihadist friends are
free to purchase all the guns they need to go out and spree shoot
to their hearts delight while paper target shooting rightists
who've never been under fire believe they can play Rambo and stop
them.


However, it's surprising that the modern day NRA bought and paid
for right thinks they are freedom lovers when it was the rightists
who wanted to remain with the crown and opposed independence
during the revolutionary war. Maybe they still hate America and
enjoy making more guns available to facilitate the deaths of more
Americans?


If they really want to defend against tyranny, they should lobby
for heavy weaponry instead of believing that pea shooters will
stop tanks.
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2017-10-06 03:59:25 UTC
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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
And there is the problem -- we do and you don't.
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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
And there is the problem -- we do and you don't.
We don't have the problem.

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2017-10-06 09:01:26 UTC
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Socialists/liberals do not want anyone to be able to own anything
they themselves do not want to own.

Just not buying one themselves is never enough.
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I have no problem with gun ownership. I just don't want you mad fuckers
owning them.
And there is the problem -- we do and you don't.
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Socialists/liberals do not want anyone to be able to own anything
they themselves do not want to own.
I respect your wish to wear diapers.


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facts are hate crimes to lefties...
"hate speech" == "telling the truth"
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Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Please explain how individuals having guns guards against tyranny. After
all, the US government has much bigger guns.
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Nevertheless, there's an insipid quality to this overconfidence in
government. Consider the 2011 London riots, where, for three days, thousands
of criminals ran rampant through the streets, stores, and gardens of the
British capital. Families were abandoned to mob rule and, if only for a
moment, British society flirted with anarchy.
Let's do a deal. I won't lecture you about the merits of gun control,
and you shouldn't lecture us about a few very localised riots, which you
clearly are very ignorant about.

Our police chose not to use heavy handed tactics to suppress the riots.
Instead, they photographed the rioters and rounded them up afterwards.

You'd rather have had Clint Eastwood in there sorting out the rioters
with his Magnum revolver, but that's Hollywood fantasy.
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Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Please explain how individuals having guns guards against tyranny. After
all, the US government has much bigger guns.
The ordinary people of America lost the fight against tyranny years ago.
Gun ownership is the blue pill.

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Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Please explain how individuals having guns guards against tyranny. After
all, the US government has much bigger guns.
Yes they do. And the militia vastly outnumbers them. And a lot
of us are veterans, trained by them.
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Nevertheless, there's an insipid quality to this overconfidence in
government. Consider the 2011 London riots, where, for three days, thousands
of criminals ran rampant through the streets, stores, and gardens of the
British capital. Families were abandoned to mob rule and, if only for a
moment, British society flirted with anarchy.
Let's do a deal. I won't lecture you about the merits of gun control,
and you shouldn't lecture us about a few very localised riots, which you
clearly are very ignorant about.
Our police chose not to use heavy handed tactics to suppress the riots.
So you let the rioters destroy all kind of person property,
severely damaging the community they are sworn to protect.
Good going there.
Post by GB
Instead, they photographed the rioters and rounded them up afterwards.
This is what happens when you can't elect your local constabulary.
Some democracy. My Sherif has to be elect every four years. And,
yes, I vote against him every time. Haven't gotten my way yet.
Post by GB
You'd rather have had Clint Eastwood in there sorting out the rioters
with his Magnum revolver, but that's Hollywood fantasy.
The UK is the Crime Capitol of Europe. That you have outlawed
insurrection weapons (you don't care about murder weapons) and
are still a somewhat free country is an historical aberration.
Lucky you!

Look what is happening right now in Venezuela. It is history
repeating itself. First they outlawed insurrection weapons.
Same thing happened in Russia and Germany. And the same thing
the UK tried to pull on the USA. And coming to your door step
soon! Yippee!

What? You expect the United States to send its children yet
again to die to save your sorry appeasing asses again. There
is a limit to how many times we will be willing to do that.
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2017-10-06 12:28:32 UTC
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Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Please explain how individuals having guns guards against tyranny.
After all, the US government has much bigger guns.
Yes they do.  And the militia vastly outnumbers them.  And a lot
of us are veterans, trained by them.
They'll barrel bomb you. What training do you vets get that prepares you
for that?
Post by GB
Our police chose not to use heavy handed tactics to suppress the riots.
So you let the rioters destroy all kind of person property,
severely damaging the community they are sworn to protect.
Good going there.
Yes. There was not that much damage. It was hyped up. I guess you'd have
machine-gunned people in order to protect a few shops. We tend to think
that's a bad idea. Clearly, YMMV.
Post by GB
Instead, they photographed the rioters and rounded them up afterwards.
This is what happens when you can't elect your local constabulary.
Some democracy.  My Sherif has to be elect every four years.  And,
yes, I vote against him every time.  Haven't gotten my way yet.
I am perfectly happy with the way the police handled this. So, if the
result of not being elected every four years is that the police are free
to act sensibly and professionally, that's an excellent result.

I assume you would prefer your sheriff to act in a more moronic, brutish
manner. Fortunately, your fellow citizens don't agree.
Post by GB
You'd rather have had Clint Eastwood in there sorting out the rioters
with his Magnum revolver, but that's Hollywood fantasy.
The UK is the Crime Capitol of Europe.
Do you have any statistics to back that up?
That you have outlawed
insurrection weapons (you don't care about murder weapons) and
are still a somewhat free country is an historical aberration.
Lucky you!
Look what is happening right now in Venezuela.  It is history
repeating itself.  First they outlawed insurrection weapons.
Same thing happened in Russia and Germany.  And the same thing
the UK tried to pull on the USA.  And coming to your door step
soon!   Yippee!
What?  You expect the United States to send its children yet
again to die to save your sorry appeasing asses again.  There
is a limit to how many times we will be willing to do that.
I haven't a clue what those last three paragraphs are on about.
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Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Please explain how individuals having guns guards against tyranny.
After all, the US government has much bigger guns.
Yes they do.  And the militia vastly outnumbers them.  And a lot
of us are veterans, trained by them.
They'll barrel bomb you. What training do you vets get that prepares you
for that?
You were never in the military, were you?
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Post by GB
Our police chose not to use heavy handed tactics to suppress the riots.
So you let the rioters destroy all kind of person property,
severely damaging the community they are sworn to protect.
Good going there.
Yes. There was not that much damage. It was hyped up. I guess you'd have
machine-gunned people in order to protect a few shops. We tend to think
that's a bad idea. Clearly, YMMV.
How do you get from riot control to machine gunning folks down?
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Post by GB
Instead, they photographed the rioters and rounded them up afterwards.
This is what happens when you can't elect your local constabulary.
Some democracy.  My Sherif has to be elect every four years.  And,
yes, I vote against him every time.  Haven't gotten my way yet.
I am perfectly happy with the way the police handled this. So, if the
result of not being elected every four years is that the police are free
to act sensibly and professionally, that's an excellent result.
And your life was not ruined by your property being destroyed?
Guess not.

By the was, I listen to your news (Classic FM). A lot of folks
were very, very angry about the was your cops responded. There
as a YUGE call to elect your officials. You are a democracy after
all. Okay, not that much of one.
Post by GB
I assume you would prefer your sheriff to act in a more moronic, brutish
manner. Fortunately, your fellow citizens don't agree.
Ah. I get it. You think being responsive to a central government is
better than being responsive to the people you are suppose to protect.
Our local elected officials are far, far more responsive to the
people the serve's needs than your remotely controlled officials.

And our never operate like you describe. Oh ya, bean bags and
pepper spray a "moronic, brutish".
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Post by GB
You'd rather have had Clint Eastwood in there sorting out the rioters
with his Magnum revolver, but that's Hollywood fantasy.
The UK is the Crime Capitol of Europe.
Do you have any statistics to back that up?
It is all over Google.
Post by GB
That you have outlawed
insurrection weapons (you don't care about murder weapons) and
are still a somewhat free country is an historical aberration.
Lucky you!
Look what is happening right now in Venezuela.  It is history
repeating itself.  First they outlawed insurrection weapons.
Same thing happened in Russia and Germany.  And the same thing
the UK tried to pull on the USA.  And coming to your door step
soon!   Yippee!
What?  You expect the United States to send its children yet
again to die to save your sorry appeasing asses again.  There
is a limit to how many times we will be willing to do that.
I haven't a clue what those last three paragraphs are on about.
Okay, let me inform you. WW1 and WW2 were disasters that did not
have to happen.

WW1 was just stupid. Had the USA stayed out of it, Europe
would have come to some kind of armistice that would have
prevent the second WW. Instead, we sent our children
to die to save your sorry asses from something you created
yourself.

And by the way, there is a real good possibility that the
RMS Lusitania was sunk by you guys, not the Germans.
Your navy blew the wreck site up so it could not be
examined. Why!

WW2 was caused by your stupid Treaty of Versailles and you
acting like pansies and appeasing the Nazis instead of having
the balls to stand up to them. Both you and France had
the necessary military strength to respond to the attack
on the Alsace-Lorraine. At that time the Germany could
not have been able to respond to you. Appeasing pansies!!!
You how much blood shed you cost!

And again, the USA sent our precious children over to die
saving you sorry appeasing asses.

And stop with the shit about us arriving late to the war.
We last countless merchant marines trying to keep you afloat
before we officially got in the war. The U-boats wrecked
havoc on us!

And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves. We believe we defeated them *** together as
Allies ***.

And, also, by the way, I do not remember you guys ever
apologizing for murdering our prisoners in our war
to toss your imperialistic asses out of our country. We
lost over 5% of our population in that war. More as a
percentage of our population that any other way in
our history.

As I said before, there is a limit to how many times we
will sacrifice our children to bail you out of your own
stupidity.
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2017-10-07 11:25:37 UTC
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The UK is the Crime Capitol of Europe.
Do you have any statistics to back that up?
It is all over Google.
I didn't think you had any statistics. So, it's all just hot air.
Post by T
And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.

You know nothing, but pretend to know lots. Even worse, you may even
think you know lots, but that's just because you're ignorant or delusional.
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Odd how you claim all knowledge on all things yet can not use a search
engine.



Sounds like a fucktard to us.
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The UK is the Crime Capitol of Europe.
Do you have any statistics to back that up?
It is all over Google.
I didn't think you had any statistics. So, it's all just hot air.
Post by T
And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
You know nothing, but pretend to know lots. Even worse, you may even think
you know lots, but that's just because you're ignorant or delusional.
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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!

What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway? How about North Africa? How about Italy.
We came for the food? A nice vacation in France? Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway? The food
in Italy is really good.

And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.

The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.

The Communists used their troops like fodder in human wave
attacks instead of using tactics. The bloodshed the
Communists cost their own people takes my breath away.
Lets see, rush the German lines without a weapon and
just pick one up from the dead guy in front of you.
Yuk, makes sense, for a communist.
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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!
What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway? How about North Africa? How about Italy.
We came for the food? A nice vacation in France? Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway? The food
in Italy is really good.
And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.
Well they weren't our allies until 1941 when Hitler got too big for his
jackboots.

Before that they were carving up Eastern Europe with the Nazis and
executing tens of thousands of Poles.
Post by T
The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.
OK.
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The Communists used their troops like fodder in human wave
attacks instead of using tactics. The bloodshed the
Communists cost their own people takes my breath away.
Lets see, rush the German lines without a weapon and
just pick one up from the dead guy in front of you.
Yuk, makes sense, for a communist.
That's bullshit, the gun thing, you know that, right?

That was based on one incident. A logistics issue. You know that, right?

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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!
What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway? How about North Africa? How about Italy.
We came for the food? A nice vacation in France? Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway? The food
in Italy is really good.
And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.
Well they weren't our allies until 1941 when Hitler got too big for his
jackboots.
Before that they were carving up Eastern Europe with the Nazis and
executing tens of thousands of Poles.
Glad you know that. And the leftists in your country refused
to go along with standing up to their fellow German leftists
until their fellow German leftists attacked their fellow Russian
leftists. Socialist on Socialist. The left wingers in your country
were the big reason yo tried to appease Hitler instead of standing
up to him when you could.

And I would say, the "Allies" on the wester front "liberated" western
Europe. Our Allies on the eastern front "conquered" eastern Europe.
Life under the Soviets in East Germany, et al, was very little different
that under the Nazis. (A customer of mine that lived under both.
told me the only difference was the language they spoke.)
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The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.
OK.
Post by T
The Communists used their troops like fodder in human wave
attacks instead of using tactics. The bloodshed the
Communists cost their own people takes my breath away.
Lets see, rush the German lines without a weapon and
just pick one up from the dead guy in front of you.
Yuk, makes sense, for a communist.
That's bullshit, the gun thing, you know that, right?
You never studied military history did you. Soviet military
leaders were butcher of their own soldiers. Our own General
Patton was completely disgusted (even more so than he was of your
semi-competent General Monti) by they way the Soviets used
their soldiers a fodder.
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
That was based on one incident. A logistics issue. You know that, right?
Virtually every battle they fought.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=world+war+two+soviet+human+wave+attacks&t=ffnt&ia=web
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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!
What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway? How about North Africa? How about Italy.
We came for the food? A nice vacation in France? Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway? The food
in Italy is really good.
And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.
Well they weren't our allies until 1941 when Hitler got too big for his
jackboots.
Before that they were carving up Eastern Europe with the Nazis and
executing tens of thousands of Poles.
Glad you know that. And the leftists in your country refused
to go along with standing up to their fellow German leftists
until their fellow German leftists attacked their fellow Russian
leftists. Socialist on Socialist.
What the fuck are you on about. Neville Chamberlain 'Peace in our time'
was a conservative and we entered the war when Germany attacked Poland
not Russia.
Post by T
The left wingers in your country
were the big reason yo tried to appease Hitler instead of standing
up to him when you could.
No.
Post by T
And I would say,
Gawd. Freedom of speech is overrated.
Post by T
the "Allies" on the wester front "liberated" western
Europe. Our Allies on the eastern front "conquered" eastern Europe.
You can say what you like and choose whatever cuddly little words suit
your somewhat facile understanding of the whole bloody show and your
agenda but 'liberation' didn't always follow Queensbury rules sonny.
Post by T
Life under the Soviets in East Germany, et al, was very little different
that under the Nazis. (A customer of mine that lived under both.
told me the only difference was the language they spoke.)
So the trains ran on time. Lucky bastards.
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Post by T
The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.
OK.
Post by T
The Communists used their troops like fodder in human wave
attacks instead of using tactics. The bloodshed the
Communists cost their own people takes my breath away.
Lets see, rush the German lines without a weapon and
just pick one up from the dead guy in front of you.
Yuk, makes sense, for a communist.
That's bullshit, the gun thing, you know that, right?
You never studied military history did you. Soviet military
leaders were butcher of their own soldiers. Our own General
Patton was completely disgusted (even more so than he was of your
semi-competent General Monti) by they way the Soviets used
their soldiers a fodder.
They had shortages, but not of rifles.
Post by T
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That was based on one incident. A logistics issue. You know that, right?
Virtually every battle they fought.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=world+war+two+soviet+human+wave+attacks&t=ffnt&ia=web
Another straw man.

The weren't short of rifles. They weren't running at the German lines
without guns. You said that. Yes, you did. The real problem was the
German war machine. Just like the Yanks today. The Germans had superior
tech. Later in the war the Russians caught up.
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What the fuck are you on about. Neville Chamberlain 'Peace in our time'
was a conservative and we entered the war when Germany attacked Poland
not Russia.
It was stupid of Britain to sign that pact and even stupider of the
Poles to believe Britain was in any position to be of aid to them. All
it did was make the Poles cocky enough to refuse to negotiate with
Germany and inflict half a century of communism on the country.

Britain couldn't even aid France after the BEF retreated across the
channel in every leaking scow they could muster.

I won't even go into Britain reinventing Poland after WWI and throwing
in the Danzig Corridor to isolate East Prussia or the entire Versailles
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What the fuck are you on about. Neville Chamberlain 'Peace in our time'
was a conservative and we entered the war when Germany attacked Poland
not Russia.
It was stupid of Britain to sign that pact
It was an act of weakness. Every time I see that clown waving that piece
of paper I feel slightly sick. That's as nothing to what the people who
lived through it felt. I remember the anger on my mothers face if
Chamberlain's name was mentioned on the telly. Scary.
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and even stupider of the
Poles to believe Britain was in any position to be of aid to them. All
it did was make the Poles cocky enough to refuse to negotiate with
Germany and inflict half a century of communism on the country.
Britain couldn't even aid France after the BEF retreated across the
channel in every leaking scow they could muster.
I won't even go into Britain reinventing Poland after WWI and throwing
in the Danzig Corridor to isolate East Prussia or the entire Versailles
fiasco.
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What the fuck are you on about. Neville Chamberlain 'Peace in our time'
was a conservative and we entered the war when Germany attacked Poland
not Russia.
It was stupid of Britain to sign that pact
It was an act of weakness. Every time I see that clown waving that piece
of paper I feel slightly sick. That's as nothing to what the people who
lived through it felt. I remember the anger on my mothers face if
Chamberlain's name was mentioned on the telly. Scary.
Wrong pact, I think. I was referring to the Polish-British Common
Defense Pact not the Munich Pact. The former was an act of hubris.
Britain was in no position to aid Poland and did not do so. The Poles
did not do their homework and paid dearly.

Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a more
powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history. The one
exception appears to be Israel.
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Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a more
powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history. The one
exception appears to be  Israel.
Lets hope North Korea backs down and does not get added to
the list with Israel. If not, so many souls will be lost, mind
you not ours.
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What the fuck are you on about. Neville Chamberlain 'Peace in our time'
was a conservative and we entered the war when Germany attacked Poland
not Russia.
It was stupid of Britain to sign that pact
It was an act of weakness. Every time I see that clown waving that piece
of paper I feel slightly sick. That's as nothing to what the people who
lived through it felt. I remember the anger on my mothers face if
Chamberlain's name was mentioned on the telly. Scary.
Wrong pact, I think. I was referring to the Polish-British Common
Defense Pact not the Munich Pact. The former was an act of hubris.
Britain was in no position to aid Poland and did not do so. The Poles
did not do their homework and paid dearly.
Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a more
powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history. The one
exception appears to be  Israel.
Don't be silly. The US is the off-shore part of Israel.
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Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a more
powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history. The one
exception appears to be  Israel.
Wasn't WW1 caused by a small country (Serbia) entangled
in all kinds of treaties with larger countries?
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Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a
more powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history.
The one exception appears to be  Israel.
Wasn't WW1 caused by a small country (Serbia) entangled
in all kinds of treaties with larger countries?
WW1 was caused by Germany wanting its own empire in eastern Europe. It
very nearly happened.
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Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a
more powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history.
The one exception appears to be Israel.
Wasn't WW1 caused by a small country (Serbia) entangled
in all kinds of treaties with larger countries?
WW1 was caused by Germany wanting its own empire in eastern Europe. It
very nearly happened.
Let's not leave out Britain being opposed to Germany being anything
other than an agrarian state known for its beer. All the players wanted
something from what was supposed to be a jolly little war. Be home for
the Christmas goose, pip, pip.
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Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a
more powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history.
The one exception appears to be Israel.
Wasn't WW1 caused by a small country (Serbia) entangled
in all kinds of treaties with larger countries?
I don't know if Serbia had an actual treaty with anyone. Russia's
support was lukewarm at best but it was a convenient excuse to start a
war with Germany and Austria-Hungary. There was a lot of intrigue and
Russia really wanted a spot at the big boys' table. Getting your ass
kicked by Japan wasn't exactly an indicator that you were ready for
prime time. Germany also welcomed the chance to go kill some Slavs. That
goes back to before the 12th century when the Northern Crusades became a
war between the Orthodox and Catholics. Alexander Nevsky is a Russian
hero for fending off the Catholics at the Battle of the Ice near Novgorod.

Britain wasn't going to let a good crisis go to waste either. The
unification of the German states in 1871 formed a nation that could
potentially rock the British boat and they couldn't have that.

France, well France shot their wad with Napoleon and have been trying to
regain their glory ever since.
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Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a
more powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history.
The one exception appears to be  Israel.
Wasn't WW1 caused by a small country (Serbia) entangled
in all kinds of treaties with larger countries?
I don't know if Serbia had an actual treaty with anyone.
This was what I was thinking of:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Crisis
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Russia's
support was lukewarm at best but it was a convenient excuse to start a
war with Germany and Austria-Hungary. There was a lot of intrigue and
Russia really wanted a spot at the big boys' table. Getting your ass
kicked by Japan wasn't exactly an indicator that you were ready for
prime time. Germany also welcomed the chance to go kill some Slavs. That
goes back to before the 12th century when the Northern Crusades became a
war between the Orthodox and Catholics. Alexander Nevsky is a Russian
hero for fending off the Catholics at the Battle of the Ice near Novgorod.
Britain wasn't going to let a good crisis go to waste either. The
unification of the German states in 1871 formed a nation that could
potentially rock the British boat and they couldn't have that.
France, well France shot their wad with Napoleon and have been trying to
regain their glory ever since.
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Any country that pursues a course of action under the assumption a
more powerful country will come to their aid needs to read history.
The one exception appears to be  Israel.
Wasn't WW1 caused by a small country (Serbia) entangled
in all kinds of treaties with larger countries?
I don't know if Serbia had an actual treaty with anyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_Crisis
Germany was looking for a pretext for war against Russia, and the
assassination was a convenient excuse if Russia supported Serbia (as
expected) in a conflict with Austria-Hungary. The France then became
involved because of a treaty with Russia, and Britain became involved
because of an old treaty guaranteeing Belgium.

As it happens, the Germans came so close to achieving their objectives,
the Russians embarked on full-blown communism, and the British achieved SFA.

WW2 was a rerun, except the Germans had learnt the lesson of how to
knock out France and Britain, leaving it to the USSR to face Germany,
which is what WW1 and its continuation in WW2 were all about.
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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!
What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway? How about North Africa? How about Italy.
We came for the food? A nice vacation in France? Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway? The food
in Italy is really good.
And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.
Well they weren't our allies until 1941 when Hitler got too big for his
jackboots.
Before that they were carving up Eastern Europe with the Nazis and
executing tens of thousands of Poles.
Glad you know that. And the leftists in your country refused
to go along with standing up to their fellow German leftists
until their fellow German leftists attacked their fellow Russian
leftists. Socialist on Socialist.
What the fuck are you on about. Neville Chamberlain 'Peace in our time'
was a conservative and we entered the war when Germany attacked Poland
not Russia.
You had the capability of putting a dead stop to it when Hitler
invaded the Alsace-Lorraine. That was way before the joint
German/Russian attack on Poland. And you entered the war with
word only until Hitler attacked France and started bombin
your asses.

And your Left wingers did not come fully on board until
Hitler attacked Russia
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The left wingers in your country
were the big reason yo tried to appease Hitler instead of standing
up to him when you could.
No.
Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
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And I would say,
Gawd. Freedom of speech is overrated.
Said by a true Stalinist.
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the "Allies" on the wester front "liberated" western
Europe. Our Allies on the eastern front "conquered" eastern Europe.
You can say what you like and choose whatever cuddly little words suit
your somewhat facile understanding of the whole bloody show and your
agenda but 'liberation' didn't always follow Queensbury rules sonny.
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Life under the Soviets in East Germany, et al, was very little different
that under the Nazis. (A customer of mine that lived under both.
told me the only difference was the language they spoke.)
So the trains ran on time. Lucky bastards.
That was what Leftists in this country said about Hitler
before we got into the war. Your's too I presume.
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The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.
OK.
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The Communists used their troops like fodder in human wave
attacks instead of using tactics. The bloodshed the
Communists cost their own people takes my breath away.
Lets see, rush the German lines without a weapon and
just pick one up from the dead guy in front of you.
Yuk, makes sense, for a communist.
That's bullshit, the gun thing, you know that, right?
You never studied military history did you. Soviet military
leaders were butcher of their own soldiers. Our own General
Patton was completely disgusted (even more so than he was of your
semi-competent General Monti) by they way the Soviets used
their soldiers a fodder.
They had shortages, but not of rifles.
Wow! And you call Yanks ignorant of history!

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/2am4oz/did_the_red_army_really_use_humanwave_tactics_in/

In the very early months, the fight was exceptionally desperate
and the Red Army often found themselves with no alternative, as
they lacked heavy support, and in some cases even enough
rifles. Massed charges happened, and there are even accounts
of Soviet soldiers charging with their arms linked in solidarity
(or to ensure no one chickens out if you are cynical) as they
lacked rifles. Wasting trained soldiers on this makes little
long term sense though, and it wasn't utilized in latter phases
of the war.

An NEVER would have though your education system would be worse than ours!
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That was based on one incident. A logistics issue. You know that, right?
Virtually every battle they fought.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=world+war+two+soviet+human+wave+attacks&t=ffnt&ia=web
Another straw man.
Wow!
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The weren't short of rifles. They weren't running at the German lines
without guns. You said that. Yes, you did. The real problem was the
German war machine. Just like the Yanks today. The Germans had superior
tech. Later in the war the Russians caught up.
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Go eat your own poo, kitty.
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Wow! And you guys condescend about our ignorance of history!
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...

britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf

socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war

poincare stood against national socialism but the precursor
of the un pressured france to be nice to the germans


stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
russia brought blood
and the usa brought money
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...
britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf
socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war
I didn't know that Stanley Baldwin and Neville Chamberlain were
socialists. Well, ain't life surprising, you learn something new every
day.
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poincare stood against national socialism but the precursor
of the un pressured france to be nice to the germans
stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
russia brought blood
and the usa brought money
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...
britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf
socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war
I didn't know that Stanley Baldwin and Neville Chamberlain were
socialists. Well, ain't life surprising, you learn something new every
day.
you clearly don't know much....

there are tories now wanting to appease the idiots that vote
for jerry and his whiners...
why do you suppose it was very much different then?
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poincare stood against national socialism but the precursor
of the un pressured france to be nice to the germans
stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
russia brought blood
and the usa brought money
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...
britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf
socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war
I didn't know that Stanley Baldwin and Neville Chamberlain were
socialists. Well, ain't life surprising, you learn something new every
day.
you clearly don't know much....
there are tories now wanting to appease the idiots that vote
for jerry and his whiners...
why do you suppose it was very much different then?
OK, Humpty Dumpty.
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True dat!
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...
britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf
socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war
I didn't know that Stanley Baldwin and Neville Chamberlain were
socialists. Well, ain't life surprising, you learn something new every
day.
you clearly don't know much....
there are tories now wanting to appease the idiots that vote
for jerry and his whiners...
why do you suppose it was very much different then?
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
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poincare stood against national socialism but the precursor
of the un pressured france to be nice to the germans
stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
russia brought blood
and the usa brought money
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...
Tell that to our merchant marines who bled dearly trying
to keep you afloat. The U-Boats ate our lunch. We
(not so secretly) backed the hell out of you.
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britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf
True. Not very well, but true. Mostly a lot of hot air.
As you stated, your hands were tied by your own socialists.
Ours were also to a certain extent. No one wanted war.
Our president Roosevelt made a famous speech about it.
Even his dog did not want war!

Behind the senary, Roosevelt was desperately trying to get us
to arm up. But it did he take his time. Bear in mind that
Roosevelt was also one of those socialists too and he even admired
Mussolini and sent representatives to Italy to study the
Socialists system to see if any of it could be used over here.
Post by abelard
socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war
That was one of my points. That is why, even after you got
demonstrated by the Germans how the Germans fought in Poland,
you did not arm or train yourselves properly.

And your socialists were not really totally on board until Hitler
attacked Russia. Then, OH BOY!
Post by abelard
poincare stood against national socialism but the precursor
of the un pressured france to be nice to the germans
The French were appeasers too. Had they stood up to the
invasion of the Allsance (I don't feel like looking up
the spelling again) when they had the ability to do so,
things would have turned out much different.
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stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
Huh? What technology? Most of it you got from us.
You did help in some of the designs though. The
motors for the P51 were yours if I am not mistaken.
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russia brought blood
Unbelievable amounts. The Soviets military commanders were
butchers of their own people. It takes my breath away.
Post by abelard
and the usa brought money
USA: Money, equipment, military tactics, our children's blood


On a more disgusting front, did you know the Nazis got their
Eugenics and gas chambers for the American Left? Left Wingers
never take responsibility for anything.

If you can stomach it, here is a good documentary on it:


And our American Left has decided that those Left Wing monsters
are actually "Right Wing" not Left Wingers after all. Talk
about rewriting history! Lets take the "Socialism" out of
"National Socialism"! They really get annoyed when you ask
them what is different between what they believe and what the
Nazis believed. The American Left follow the Nazi model
of socialism far closer than they do the communist model.
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...
Tell that to our merchant marines who bled dearly trying
to keep you afloat. The U-Boats ate our lunch. We
(not so secretly) backed the hell out of you.
so, you wish to change the subject...ok....but
my comments remain factual
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Post by abelard
britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf
True. Not very well, but true. Mostly a lot of hot air.
As you stated, your hands were tied by your own socialists.
Ours were also to a certain extent. No one wanted war.
Our president Roosevelt made a famous speech about it.
Even his dog did not want war!
Behind the senary, Roosevelt was desperately trying to get us
to arm up. But it did he take his time. Bear in mind that
Roosevelt was also one of those socialists too and he even admired
Mussolini and sent representatives to Italy to study the
Socialists system to see if any of it could be used over here.
most of the countries were desperate to get others to
do any fighting
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Post by abelard
socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war
That was one of my points. That is why, even after you got
demonstrated by the Germans how the Germans fought in Poland,
you did not arm or train yourselves properly.
And your socialists were not really totally on board until Hitler
attacked Russia. Then, OH BOY!
essentially true
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Post by abelard
poincare stood against national socialism but the precursor
of the un pressured france to be nice to the germans
The French were appeasers too. Had they stood up to the
invasion of the Allsance (I don't feel like looking up
the spelling again) when they had the ability to do so,
things would have turned out much different.
probably at some point...

like most countries, they didn't wish to pay the insurance premiums
and most of the generals wanted to fight the last war...as usual

alsace
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Post by abelard
stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
Huh? What technology? Most of it you got from us.
You did help in some of the designs though. The
motors for the P51 were yours if I am not mistaken.
simply untrue
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Post by abelard
russia brought blood
Unbelievable amounts. The Soviets military commanders were
butchers of their own people. It takes my breath away.
incidentally, primarily from their empire in preference
to russians
Post by T
Post by abelard
and the usa brought money
USA: Money, equipment, military tactics, our children's blood
methinks you rely too much on hollywood
Post by T
On a more disgusting front, did you know the Nazis got their
Eugenics and gas chambers for the American Left? Left Wingers
never take responsibility for anything.
yes, i did...sweden was another 'leader' as were the fabians...
who still control britian's socialist party
Post by T
http://youtu.be/RUcukxSIZio
And our American Left has decided that those Left Wing monsters
are actually "Right Wing" not Left Wingers after all. Talk
about rewriting history! Lets take the "Socialism" out of
"National Socialism"! They really get annoyed when you ask
them what is different between what they believe and what the
Nazis believed. The American Left follow the Nazi model
of socialism far closer than they do the communist model.
in the usa they also try to write the kkk out of 'democrat'
history...the 'democrat's' gestapo...

all socialism is built on lies...without lies it cannot survive
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Your appeasement cast so many lives. The UK did not even
adequately arm yourself! You had to beg us for rifles!
the usa did nothing for the first couple of years and had
little fighting capacity for 2 more years...
Tell that to our merchant marines who bled dearly trying
to keep you afloat. The U-Boats ate our lunch. We
(not so secretly) backed the hell out of you.
so, you wish to change the subject...ok....but
my comments remain factual
Actually, I wasn't changing the subject. I was comment on
our slow response and what we actually did do.
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Post by abelard
britain stood alone against national socialism for 2 years
while international socialism was in alliance with adolf
True. Not very well, but true. Mostly a lot of hot air.
As you stated, your hands were tied by your own socialists.
Ours were also to a certain extent. No one wanted war.
Our president Roosevelt made a famous speech about it.
Even his dog did not want war!
Behind the senary, Roosevelt was desperately trying to get us
to arm up. But it did he take his time. Bear in mind that
Roosevelt was also one of those socialists too and he even admired
Mussolini and sent representatives to Italy to study the
Socialists system to see if any of it could be used over here.
most of the countries were desperate to get others to
do any fighting
That was one of Hitler;s greatest assets.
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Post by abelard
socialism in the uk continually fought against british rearmament
right up to the war
That was one of my points. That is why, even after you got
demonstrated by the Germans how the Germans fought in Poland,
you did not arm or train yourselves properly.
And your socialists were not really totally on board until Hitler
attacked Russia. Then, OH BOY!
essentially true
Post by T
Post by abelard
poincare stood against national socialism but the precursor
of the un pressured france to be nice to the germans
The French were appeasers too. Had they stood up to the
invasion of the Allsance (I don't feel like looking up
the spelling again) when they had the ability to do so,
things would have turned out much different.
probably at some point...
like most countries, they didn't wish to pay the insurance premiums
and most of the generals wanted to fight the last war...as usual
alsace
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Post by abelard
stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
Huh? What technology? Most of it you got from us.
You did help in some of the designs though. The
motors for the P51 were yours if I am not mistaken.
simply untrue
Some examples please.
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Post by T
Post by abelard
russia brought blood
Unbelievable amounts. The Soviets military commanders were
butchers of their own people. It takes my breath away.
incidentally, primarily from their empire in preference
to russians
This I did not know. It takes my breath away. "Empire" is
a perfect description.
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Post by T
Post by abelard
and the usa brought money
USA: Money, equipment, military tactics, our children's blood
methinks you rely too much on hollywood
I was a student of General Patton when I was a kid, so
I am informed. My wife also studied Churchill.

And you are right, Hollywood has no clue.
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Post by T
On a more disgusting front, did you know the Nazis got their
Eugenics and gas chambers for the American Left? Left Wingers
never take responsibility for anything.
yes, i did...sweden was another 'leader' as were the fabians...
who still control britian's socialist party
Post by T
http://youtu.be/RUcukxSIZio
If you have the change, the above video will buttress
what you said below, especially about the lies.
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And our American Left has decided that those Left Wing monsters
are actually "Right Wing" not Left Wingers after all. Talk
about rewriting history! Lets take the "Socialism" out of
"National Socialism"! They really get annoyed when you ask
them what is different between what they believe and what the
Nazis believed. The American Left follow the Nazi model
of socialism far closer than they do the communist model.
in the usa they also try to write the kkk out of 'democrat'
history...the 'democrat's' gestapo...
Man did you ever tag that!
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all socialism is built on lies...without lies it cannot survive
And that too! Socialism = squalor and tyranny. They
have to lie.
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Tell that to our merchant marines who bled dearly trying
to keep you afloat. The U-Boats ate our lunch. We
(not so secretly) backed the hell out of you.
so, you wish to change the subject...ok....but
my comments remain factual
Actually, I wasn't changing the subject. I was comment on
our slow response and what we actually did do.
ok...
'backed the hell out of you' does not translate easily into
british english'

it's obvious from your posts that you are far from uninformed...

my interest is in communication logic(psycho-logic) not in
warfare other than as part of human behaviour

i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
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most of the countries were desperate to get others to
do any fighting
That was one of Hitler;s greatest assets.
that must be true
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stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
Huh? What technology? Most of it you got from us.
You did help in some of the designs though. The
motors for the P51 were yours if I am not mistaken.
simply untrue
Some examples please.
spitfire...rolls-royce...radar...computing...
(it's not something i've studied in detail)

american factory methods were ahead of course

and the usa was already becoming more advanced economically...
while britain went deep into hock....
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russia brought blood
Unbelievable amounts. The Soviets military commanders were
butchers of their own people. It takes my breath away.
incidentally, primarily from their empire in preference
to russians
This I did not know. It takes my breath away. "Empire" is
a perfect description.
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and the usa brought money
USA: Money, equipment, military tactics, our children's blood
methinks you rely too much on hollywood
I was a student of General Patton when I was a kid, so
I am informed. My wife also studied Churchill.
And you are right, Hollywood has no clue.
they sell what appeals to their audiences...and of course
they're packed with lefties

so the end justifies the means
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On a more disgusting front, did you know the Nazis got their
Eugenics and gas chambers for the American Left? Left Wingers
never take responsibility for anything.
yes, i did...sweden was another 'leader' as were the fabians...
who still control britian's socialist party
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http://youtu.be/RUcukxSIZio
If you have the change, the above video will buttress
what you said below, especially about the lies.
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Post by T
And our American Left has decided that those Left Wing monsters
are actually "Right Wing" not Left Wingers after all. Talk
about rewriting history! Lets take the "Socialism" out of
"National Socialism"! They really get annoyed when you ask
them what is different between what they believe and what the
Nazis believed. The American Left follow the Nazi model
of socialism far closer than they do the communist model.
in the usa they also try to write the kkk out of 'democrat'
history...the 'democrat's' gestapo...
Man did you ever tag that!
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all socialism is built on lies...without lies it cannot survive
And that too! Socialism = squalor and tyranny. They
have to lie.
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around

the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...

how do your felines incline you for that?
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...

people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it

most illness is not a permanent state....

inexperienced children can be persuaded to put marbles into
their mouths...some die from that foolish action

thing of gerry and his whiners as dope dealers to the unwary

many see through the conmen in due course
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...
people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it
most illness is not a permanent state....
The difference is that recovering from influenza means you are no longer
infected. When someone recovers from drug addiction, they still have
the illness.
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...
people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it
most illness is not a permanent state....
The difference is that recovering from influenza means you are no longer
infected. When someone recovers from drug addiction, they still have
the illness.
i'm attempting to educate a kitten of little knowledge...

i must build up her knowledge by simple steps...

political education in britain is near to zero...most do not
realise how anomalous is socialist government in the uk...

socialists only get in after a new naive generation grows to voting
age...a generation that has no experience...



meanwhile 'flu also keeps mutation and can infect those with poor
immune systems as socialism adds a few more lies...

both diseases rely heavily on camouflage
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...
people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it
most illness is not a permanent state....
The difference is that recovering from influenza means you are no longer
infected. When someone recovers from drug addiction, they still have
the illness.
i'm attempting to educate a kitten of little knowledge...
You're too kind. So the mentally ill people got cured and then turned
mental again. It must be all that repetition. I lived a long time and
all politicians seem to do is endlessly repeat the same mantras. A bit
like you come to think of it. Yunno, the political football. The only
safe thing to do when bombarded by circular arguments is to walk away
otherwise you'll be on tablets for life. So we do. Is that our fault.
Nope. While you are having the usual circle jerk we just get on with
more important things in sure and certain knowledge that whatever you do
we'll work around it and when whosoever is in power goes totally
doolally like the show now featuring back stabbing Boris and his
spiders, and some bint who just keeps repeating summit about sure and
stable or calm leadership with a faint whiff of et tu brute about it, we
are left head swiveling and head slapping before declaring a collective
WTF and whatever, downing a pint, and voting for the other lot. I'm
sorry but looking for sense where none exists is a fools game. Anyway, I
don't want to interrupt you guys jumping up and down, pointing a
collective finger and shouting 'socialist' like the crowd at a footie
match so you carry on. If you find the time in your busy schedule
perhaps you'd like to define what a socialist according to the book of
abelard is. Be careful though. I will test any definition you care to
give to destruction and if found wanting take the piss mercilessly.
I know it's a folorn hope but try and keep it short and concise if you
possibly can.
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i must build up her knowledge by simple steps...
political education in britain is near to zero...most do not
realise how anomalous is socialist government in the uk...
socialists only get in after a new naive generation grows to voting
age...a generation that has no experience...
meanwhile 'flu also keeps mutation and can infect those with poor
immune systems as socialism adds a few more lies...
both diseases rely heavily on camouflage
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...
people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it
most illness is not a permanent state....
The difference is that recovering from influenza means you are no longer
infected. When someone recovers from drug addiction, they still have
the illness.
i'm attempting to educate a kitten of little knowledge...
You're too kind. So the mentally ill people got cured and then turned
mental again. It must be all that repetition. I lived a long time and
all politicians seem to do is endlessly repeat the same mantras. A bit
like you come to think of it. Yunno, the political football. The only
safe thing to do when bombarded by circular arguments is to walk away
otherwise you'll be on tablets for life. So we do. Is that our fault.
Nope. While you are having the usual circle jerk we just get on with
more important things in sure and certain knowledge that whatever you do
we'll work around it and when whosoever is in power goes totally
doolally like the show now featuring back stabbing Boris and his
spiders, and some bint who just keeps repeating summit about sure and
stable or calm leadership with a faint whiff of et tu brute about it, we
are left head swiveling and head slapping before declaring a collective
WTF and whatever, downing a pint, and voting for the other lot. I'm
sorry but looking for sense where none exists is a fools game. Anyway, I
don't want to interrupt you guys jumping up and down, pointing a
collective finger and shouting 'socialist' like the crowd at a footie
match so you carry on. If you find the time in your busy schedule
perhaps you'd like to define what a socialist according to the book of
abelard is. Be careful though. I will test any definition you care to
give to destruction and if found wanting take the piss mercilessly.
I know it's a folorn hope but try and keep it short and concise if you
possibly can.
Post by abelard
i must build up her knowledge by simple steps...
political education in britain is near to zero...most do not
realise how anomalous is socialist government in the uk...
socialists only get in after a new naive generation grows to voting
age...a generation that has no experience...
meanwhile 'flu also keeps mutation and can infect those with poor
immune systems as socialism adds a few more lies...
both diseases rely heavily on camouflage
i suggest you examine the 'flu virus

socialism keeps changing its coat in a very similar manner...

but the filthy disease is still hidden within
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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...
people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it
most illness is not a permanent state....
The difference is that recovering from influenza means you are no longer
infected. When someone recovers from drug addiction, they still have
the illness.
i'm attempting to educate a kitten of little knowledge...
You're too kind. So the mentally ill people got cured and then turned
mental again. It must be all that repetition. I lived a long time and
all politicians seem to do is endlessly repeat the same mantras. A bit
like you come to think of it. Yunno, the political football. The only
safe thing to do when bombarded by circular arguments is to walk away
otherwise you'll be on tablets for life. So we do. Is that our fault.
Nope. While you are having the usual circle jerk we just get on with
more important things in sure and certain knowledge that whatever you do
we'll work around it and when whosoever is in power goes totally
doolally like the show now featuring back stabbing Boris and his
spiders, and some bint who just keeps repeating summit about sure and
stable or calm leadership with a faint whiff of et tu brute about it, we
are left head swiveling and head slapping before declaring a collective
WTF and whatever, downing a pint, and voting for the other lot. I'm
sorry but looking for sense where none exists is a fools game. Anyway, I
don't want to interrupt you guys jumping up and down, pointing a
collective finger and shouting 'socialist' like the crowd at a footie
match so you carry on. If you find the time in your busy schedule
perhaps you'd like to define what a socialist according to the book of
abelard is. Be careful though. I will test any definition you care to
give to destruction and if found wanting take the piss mercilessly.
I know it's a folorn hope but try and keep it short and concise if you
possibly can.
Post by abelard
i must build up her knowledge by simple steps...
political education in britain is near to zero...most do not
realise how anomalous is socialist government in the uk...
socialists only get in after a new naive generation grows to voting
age...a generation that has no experience...
meanwhile 'flu also keeps mutation and can infect those with poor
immune systems as socialism adds a few more lies...
both diseases rely heavily on camouflage
i suggest you examine the 'flu virus
socialism keeps changing its coat in a very similar manner...
but the filthy disease is still hidden within
What have I told you about religions or was it that bloke selling dvds
or whatever his nym was supposed to symbolise. Anyway, all religions
have get out clauses and boy has your one got a shed load. What is your
religion called? Is it a cult? You must be like a high priest. Do you
need rescuing and deprogramming. Why am I asking the bleeding obvious.
You need rescuing and deprogramming. My cats may be able to assist you.
For a price.

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i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...
people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it
most illness is not a permanent state....
The difference is that recovering from influenza means you are no longer
infected. When someone recovers from drug addiction, they still have
the illness.
i'm attempting to educate a kitten of little knowledge...
You're too kind. So the mentally ill people got cured and then turned
mental again. It must be all that repetition. I lived a long time and
all politicians seem to do is endlessly repeat the same mantras. A bit
like you come to think of it. Yunno, the political football. The only
safe thing to do when bombarded by circular arguments is to walk away
otherwise you'll be on tablets for life. So we do. Is that our fault.
Nope. While you are having the usual circle jerk we just get on with
more important things in sure and certain knowledge that whatever you do
we'll work around it and when whosoever is in power goes totally
doolally like the show now featuring back stabbing Boris and his
spiders, and some bint who just keeps repeating summit about sure and
stable or calm leadership with a faint whiff of et tu brute about it, we
are left head swiveling and head slapping before declaring a collective
WTF and whatever, downing a pint, and voting for the other lot. I'm
sorry but looking for sense where none exists is a fools game. Anyway, I
don't want to interrupt you guys jumping up and down, pointing a
collective finger and shouting 'socialist' like the crowd at a footie
match so you carry on. If you find the time in your busy schedule
perhaps you'd like to define what a socialist according to the book of
abelard is. Be careful though. I will test any definition you care to
give to destruction and if found wanting take the piss mercilessly.
I know it's a folorn hope but try and keep it short and concise if you
possibly can.
Post by abelard
i must build up her knowledge by simple steps...
political education in britain is near to zero...most do not
realise how anomalous is socialist government in the uk...
socialists only get in after a new naive generation grows to voting
age...a generation that has no experience...
meanwhile 'flu also keeps mutation and can infect those with poor
immune systems as socialism adds a few more lies...
both diseases rely heavily on camouflage
i suggest you examine the 'flu virus
socialism keeps changing its coat in a very similar manner...
but the filthy disease is still hidden within
What have I told you about religions or was it that bloke selling dvds
or whatever his nym was supposed to symbolise. Anyway, all religions
have get out clauses and boy has your one got a shed load. What is your
religion called? Is it a cult? You must be like a high priest. Do you
need rescuing and deprogramming. Why am I asking the bleeding obvious.
You need rescuing and deprogramming. My cats may be able to assist you.
For a price.
stop hunting around to change the subject
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Ohhh that is gonna leave a mark./.......LOL
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Post by abelard
i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
Two world wars. The unfulfilled promise of a 'land fit for
heroes' made
after WW1. A working class tired of being sent to fight their
own class
by their masters. A society ready for change and determined not to be
jerked off like they were after WW1. A blueprint and an
election. Good
bye Mr Churchill. Hello Brave New World.
Who could blame them.
i see vacuous stereotypes...i see no argument...
I've told you before. You need to add music or you'll never understand
anything. The people who voted were people like my mum, dad, and gran.
My uncles and aunts and cousins, their friends and so on. It was their
reaction to their reality which changed Britain. You need to feel that.
You need to get a sense of their reality to understand why they voted
for change. What drove the road to socialism. I don't think you know how
to do that. How to listen. How to tune in. You are just derogatory.
so you 'have a feeling'...and wish to spray it around
the same people voted them out again as soon as they
got the opportunity...
You mean the same mentally ill people. Who were of course miraculously
cured at that point. Although that doesn't explain the legacy 'issues'
or pretty much any of the other 'conclusions' of your extensive
'studies'.
people recover from 'flu...they find they don't like it...
people recover from drug addiction...they also find they don't like it
most illness is not a permanent state....
The difference is that recovering from influenza means you are no longer
infected. When someone recovers from drug addiction, they still have
the illness.
i'm attempting to educate a kitten of little knowledge...
You're too kind. So the mentally ill people got cured and then turned
mental again. It must be all that repetition. I lived a long time and
all politicians seem to do is endlessly repeat the same mantras. A bit
like you come to think of it. Yunno, the political football. The only
safe thing to do when bombarded by circular arguments is to walk away
otherwise you'll be on tablets for life. So we do. Is that our fault.
Nope. While you are having the usual circle jerk we just get on with
more important things in sure and certain knowledge that whatever you do
we'll work around it and when whosoever is in power goes totally
doolally like the show now featuring back stabbing Boris and his
spiders, and some bint who just keeps repeating summit about sure and
stable or calm leadership with a faint whiff of et tu brute about it, we
are left head swiveling and head slapping before declaring a collective
WTF and whatever, downing a pint, and voting for the other lot. I'm
sorry but looking for sense where none exists is a fools game. Anyway, I
don't want to interrupt you guys jumping up and down, pointing a
collective finger and shouting 'socialist' like the crowd at a footie
match so you carry on. If you find the time in your busy schedule
perhaps you'd like to define what a socialist according to the book of
abelard is. Be careful though. I will test any definition you care to
give to destruction and if found wanting take the piss mercilessly.
I know it's a folorn hope but try and keep it short and concise if you
possibly can.
Post by abelard
i must build up her knowledge by simple steps...
political education in britain is near to zero...most do not
realise how anomalous is socialist government in the uk...
socialists only get in after a new naive generation grows to voting
age...a generation that has no experience...
meanwhile 'flu also keeps mutation and can infect those with poor
immune systems as socialism adds a few more lies...
both diseases rely heavily on camouflage
i suggest you examine the 'flu virus
socialism keeps changing its coat in a very similar manner...
but the filthy disease is still hidden within
What have I told you about religions or was it that bloke selling dvds
or whatever his nym was supposed to symbolise. Anyway, all religions
have get out clauses and boy has your one got a shed load. What is your
religion called? Is it a cult? You must be like a high priest. Do you
need rescuing and deprogramming. Why am I asking the bleeding obvious.
You need rescuing and deprogramming. My cats may be able to assist you.
For a price.
stop hunting around to change the subject
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Tell that to our merchant marines who bled dearly trying
to keep you afloat. The U-Boats ate our lunch. We
(not so secretly) backed the hell out of you.
so, you wish to change the subject...ok....but
my comments remain factual
Actually, I wasn't changing the subject. I was comment on
our slow response and what we actually did do.
ok...
'backed the hell out of you' does not translate easily into
british english'
it's obvious from your posts that you are far from uninformed...
my interest is in communication logic(psycho-logic) not in
warfare other than as part of human behaviour
i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
I agree and I will raise you one. I see it as base on
coveting your neighbors property. I see it as evil.

“Should we look to kings and princes to put right the
inequalities between rich and poor? Should we require
soldiers to come and seize the rich person’s gold and
distribute it among his destitute neighbors? Should we
beg the emperor to impose a tax on the rich so great
that it reduces them to the level of the poor and then
to share the proceeds of that tax among everyone?
Equality imposed by force would achieve nothing, and do
much harm. Those who combined both cruel hearts and
sharp minds would soon find ways of making themselves
rich again.

Worse still, the rich whose gold was taken away would
feel bitter and resentful; while the poor who received
the gold from the hands of soldiers would feel no
gratitude, because no generosity would have prompted the
gift. Far from bringing moral benefit to society, it
would actually do moral harm. Material justice cannot
be accomplished by compulsion, a change of heart will
not follow. The only way to achieve true justice is to
change people’s hearts first—and then they will joyfully
share their wealth.”
– St. John Chrysostom on the poor from On Living Simply XLIII

That was written in the forth century by the way, so we had
socialists back then too.
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most of the countries were desperate to get others to
do any fighting
That was one of Hitler;s greatest assets.
that must be true
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stalin supposedly said
britain brought the time and technology...
Huh? What technology? Most of it you got from us.
You did help in some of the designs though. The
motors for the P51 were yours if I am not mistaken.
simply untrue
Some examples please.
spitfire...rolls-royce...radar...computing...
(it's not something i've studied in detail)
Great list. Love the computer one!

Believe it on not, one of our secret weapons were our
trucks. They kept us supplied as Patton raced across
Europe.

And of course, our greatest asset was John Moses Browing.
Post by abelard
american factory methods were ahead of course
and the usa was already becoming more advanced economically...
while britain went deep into hock....
We outproduced the Germans in tanks 25 to one.
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russia brought blood
Unbelievable amounts. The Soviets military commanders were
butchers of their own people. It takes my breath away.
incidentally, primarily from their empire in preference
to russians
This I did not know. It takes my breath away. "Empire" is
a perfect description.
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and the usa brought money
USA: Money, equipment, military tactics, our children's blood
methinks you rely too much on hollywood
I was a student of General Patton when I was a kid, so
I am informed. My wife also studied Churchill.
And you are right, Hollywood has no clue.
they sell what appeals to their audiences...and of course
they're packed with lefties
The non lefties hold our noses and are switching to Asian soaps.
Post by abelard
so the end justifies the means
You nailed that one.
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On a more disgusting front, did you know the Nazis got their
Eugenics and gas chambers for the American Left? Left Wingers
never take responsibility for anything.
yes, i did...sweden was another 'leader' as were the fabians...
who still control britian's socialist party
Post by T
http://youtu.be/RUcukxSIZio
If you have the change, the above video will buttress
what you said below, especially about the lies.
Post by abelard
Post by T
And our American Left has decided that those Left Wing monsters
are actually "Right Wing" not Left Wingers after all. Talk
about rewriting history! Lets take the "Socialism" out of
"National Socialism"! They really get annoyed when you ask
them what is different between what they believe and what the
Nazis believed. The American Left follow the Nazi model
of socialism far closer than they do the communist model.
in the usa they also try to write the kkk out of 'democrat'
history...the 'democrat's' gestapo...
Man did you ever tag that!
Post by abelard
all socialism is built on lies...without lies it cannot survive
And that too! Socialism = squalor and tyranny. They
have to lie.
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Tell that to our merchant marines who bled dearly trying
to keep you afloat. The U-Boats ate our lunch. We
(not so secretly) backed the hell out of you.
so, you wish to change the subject...ok....but
my comments remain factual
Actually, I wasn't changing the subject. I was comment on
our slow response and what we actually did do.
ok...
'backed the hell out of you' does not translate easily into
british english'
it's obvious from your posts that you are far from uninformed...
my interest is in communication logic(psycho-logic) not in
warfare other than as part of human behaviour
i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
I agree and I will raise you one. I see it as base on
coveting your neighbors property. I see it as evil.
“Should we look to kings and princes to put right the
inequalities between rich and poor? Should we require
soldiers to come and seize the rich person’s gold and
distribute it among his destitute neighbors? Should we
beg the emperor to impose a tax on the rich so great
that it reduces them to the level of the poor and then
to share the proceeds of that tax among everyone?
Equality imposed by force would achieve nothing, and do
much harm. Those who combined both cruel hearts and
sharp minds would soon find ways of making themselves
rich again.
Worse still, the rich whose gold was taken away would
feel bitter and resentful; while the poor who received
the gold from the hands of soldiers would feel no
gratitude, because no generosity would have prompted the
gift. Far from bringing moral benefit to society, it
would actually do moral harm. Material justice cannot
be accomplished by compulsion, a change of heart will
not follow. The only way to achieve true justice is to
change people’s hearts first—and then they will joyfully
share their wealth.”
– St. John Chrysostom on the poor from On Living Simply XLIII
That was written in the forth century by the way, so we had
socialists back then too.
eeek....i'd not seen that before

though i'm with jesus of naz....render unto caesar....

thank you for posting it
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Tell that to our merchant marines who bled dearly trying
to keep you afloat. The U-Boats ate our lunch. We
(not so secretly) backed the hell out of you.
so, you wish to change the subject...ok....but
my comments remain factual
Actually, I wasn't changing the subject. I was comment on
our slow response and what we actually did do.
ok...
'backed the hell out of you' does not translate easily into
british english'
it's obvious from your posts that you are far from uninformed...
my interest is in communication logic(psycho-logic) not in
warfare other than as part of human behaviour
i've studied socialism in depth because i regard it as a mental
and social disease
I agree and I will raise you one. I see it as base on
coveting your neighbors property. I see it as evil.
“Should we look to kings and princes to put right the
inequalities between rich and poor? Should we require
soldiers to come and seize the rich person’s gold and
distribute it among his destitute neighbors? Should we
beg the emperor to impose a tax on the rich so great
that it reduces them to the level of the poor and then
to share the proceeds of that tax among everyone?
Equality imposed by force would achieve nothing, and do
much harm. Those who combined both cruel hearts and
sharp minds would soon find ways of making themselves
rich again.
Worse still, the rich whose gold was taken away would
feel bitter and resentful; while the poor who received
the gold from the hands of soldiers would feel no
gratitude, because no generosity would have prompted the
gift. Far from bringing moral benefit to society, it
would actually do moral harm. Material justice cannot
be accomplished by compulsion, a change of heart will
not follow. The only way to achieve true justice is to
change people’s hearts first—and then they will joyfully
share their wealth.”
– St. John Chrysostom on the poor from On Living Simply XLIII
That was written in the forth century by the way, so we had
socialists back then too.
eeek....i'd not seen that before
though i'm with jesus of naz....render unto caesar....
Sometimes Caesar takes what is not Caesar's to take
(Socialism).
Post by abelard
thank you for posting it
You see the thing here is that Christians are suppose to
take action themselves, not smack other people over the head,
take their money, and use it to take care of the needy.
This is the difference between government and society.

General Washington made all of our solders read the following:

Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in
its best state is but a necessary evil. We have it in our
power to begin the world over again.

Some writers have so confounded society with government, as
to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas
they are not only different, but have different origins.
Society is produced by our wants, and government by our
wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY
by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by
restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse,
the other creates distinctions. The first a patron, the
last a punisher.

--Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

And yes I know, Government threatens you with loss of
liberty and imprisonment, takes your stuff, gives 95%
of it to their friends, and the rest to charity.
By contract, our Salvation Army's overhead is about 7%
or so. Again, the difference between society
and government.
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Sometimes Caesar takes what is not Caesar's to take
(Socialism).
I getting really fookin confused. Roman Emperors were socialists?

Pooh, methinks these guys are tuppence short of a shilling.
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Sometimes Caesar takes what is not Caesar's to take
(Socialism).
I getting really fookin confused. Roman Emperors were socialists?
Pooh, methinks these guys are tuppence short of a shilling.
I was speaking in much broader terms. What I meant
was that socialists take things from their people
that are not theirs to take, like their stuff, their
freedom, their liberty, their humanity, etc..
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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!
What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway?  How about North Africa?  How about Italy.
We came for the food?  A nice vacation in France?  Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway?  The food
in Italy is really good.
And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.
The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.
German casualties on the Eastern Front were higher than all the other
fronts put together.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II
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2017-10-09 21:46:43 UTC
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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!
What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway?  How about North Africa?  How about Italy.
We came for the food?  A nice vacation in France?  Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway?  The food
in Italy is really good.
And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.
The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.
German casualties on the Eastern Front were higher than all the other
fronts put together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II
Did that number include the Soviets murdering German prisoners?

And casualties were far fewer when fought with tactics than with
human waves. And won this was "together" as "allies".
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Did that number include the Soviets murdering German prisoners?
They had help from the RAF:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Cap_Arcona_(1927)
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And by the way, Americans do not believe we defeated the Nazis
by ourselves.
Of course, you didn't. They were defeated by the Red Army.
Wow. That was a real stretch!
What were the English and the American troops doing is
France anyway?  How about North Africa?  How about Italy.
We came for the food?  A nice vacation in France?  Why
did we enter France at Normandy anyway?  The food
in Italy is really good.
And, like it or not, the Red Army was our Allies too.
The Nazis were defeated by ***ALL*** the Allies, ***together***.
I am not the one who doesn't know my history.
German casualties on the Eastern Front were higher than all the other
fronts put together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II
Did that number include the Soviets murdering German prisoners?
If you weren't so busy posting crap and had bothered to read the
reference I cited, you'd know that the term casualties included POWs.

It's interesting that the American/UK front had 80% POWs amongst German
casualties, whilst the Russians had just under 50%. That's presumably
precisely because the US/UK forces treated their prisoners much better.
Post by T
And casualties were far fewer when fought with tactics than with
human waves.  And won this was "together" as "allies".
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Why the European establishment hates the Second Amendment
The Yurpean establishment doesn't HAVE a second (or any other)
amendmen.
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While Americans should not ignore gun violence problems, gun control won't
balance freedom with greater security. Instead, we must address the outsized
proportion of gun violence attributable to young minority men, and the roots
of that violence in collapsing families.
'Young minority men', Burpfart? Do you mean NIGGERS?
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Why the European establishment hates the Second Amendment
The Yurpean establishment doesn't HAVE a second (or any other)
amendmen.
No shit! <BG>
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While Americans should not ignore gun violence problems, gun control won't
balance freedom with greater security. Instead, we must address the outsized
proportion of gun violence attributable to young minority men, and the roots
of that violence in collapsing families.
'Young minority men', Burpfart? Do you mean NIGGERS?
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Why the European establishment hates the Second Amendment
The European political establishment hates the Second Amendment for its
ultimate repudiation of big government.
To understand the European viewpoint, consider the debate on Britain's Sky
News channel, Tuesday evening, between liberal columnist Yasmin
Alibhai-Brown and libertarian editor Brendan O'Neill.
As O'Neill calmly outlined why gun ownership represents positive individual
freedom, Alibhai-Brown quickly lost her cool, "That is not a moral
position!" she shouted, adding that the Second Amendment was designed for a
time "When [Americans] were massacring Native Americans ... hundreds of
thousands of people were being killed." The journalist, who was "really
depressed" when Bin Laden was killed, then delivered her punch line, "Change
your mind, you'll still be a man."
Sorry, Yasmin, but 19th century Native American history is more complicated
than genocide, and penis size has nothing to do with gun ownership. (Indeed,
that's an insult to the tens of thousands of British vacationers who see gun
ranges as required stops!)
Alibhai-Brown continued her tirade: "Don't put the shine of morality on your
position!" she told O'Neill, "It is a deeply immoral position. To be so
brainwashed about the Second Amendment that you don't see what you need to
see!"
Note the Orwellian history-purge quality of Alibhai-Brown's words: "You
don't see what you need to see." Alibhai-Brown has no interest in
persuasion, only in re-education. The columnist then emphasized her point,
stating, "No other western democracy feels the need to have the arming of
its citizens."
Remember, this notion of "need" sits at the heart of left-wing ideology.
Karl Marx explained that government must allocate power to individuals,
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Alibhai-Brown cannot fathom that the individual choice of using guns to
hunt, protect one's family, and guard against tyranny represents freedom.
Indeed, she believes that government, not individuals, must shape what is
and what is not freedom. And be under no illusions, this European
perspective applies equally to speech as it does to guns.
Nevertheless, there's an insipid quality to this overconfidence in
government. Consider the 2011 London riots, where, for three days, thousands
of criminals ran rampant through the streets, stores, and gardens of the
British capital. Families were abandoned to mob rule and, if only for a
moment, British society flirted with anarchy.
While Americans should not ignore gun violence problems, gun control won't
balance freedom with greater security. Instead, we must address the outsized
proportion of gun violence attributable to young minority men, and the roots
of that violence in collapsing families.
Does anyone really care anymore if you shoot the fuck out of each
other. I mean you don't care. Why should we. Please continue to bore us.
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Does anyone really care anymore if you shoot the fuck out of each
other. I mean you don't care. Why should we. Please continue to bore us.
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Murder is murder. The UK is the crime capitol of Europe.
The tools differ. Criminals operate OUTSIDE the law.

Oh, and guns are becoming more and more a tool of
your criminals.

Maybe you should pass another law? Think they will pay
any more attention to it than they do all your other
ones?
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Does anyone really care anymore if you shoot the fuck out of each
other. I mean you don't care. Why should we. Please continue to bore us.
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Murder is murder. The UK is the crime capitol of Europe.
Oh yeah, prove it. None of the stats are comparable.
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The tools differ. Criminals operate OUTSIDE the law.
Oh, and guns are becoming more and more a tool of
your criminals.
Maybe you should pass another law? Think they will pay
any more attention to it than they do all your other
ones?
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Does anyone really care anymore if you shoot the fuck out of each
other. I mean you don't care. Why should we. Please continue to bore us.
<wipey away faux tears, lock and load>
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Murder is murder. The UK is the crime capitol of Europe.
Oh yeah, prove it. None of the stats are comparable.
Ooooo. The little kitty can't use Google?

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1546&bih=762&q=uk+is+the+crime+capital+of+europe

You know, if condescending ever becomes an Olympic
sport, the sudden death play off round between you
and the French will be a thing to behold. You will
lose, but it will still be a thing to behold. There
is no shame in a silver medal.

Now go eat your own poop.
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The tools differ. Criminals operate OUTSIDE the law.
Oh, and guns are becoming more and more a tool of
your criminals.
Maybe you should pass another law? Think they will pay
any more attention to it than they do all your other
ones?
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Does anyone really care anymore if you shoot the fuck out of each
other. I mean you don't care. Why should we. Please continue to bore us.
<wipey away faux tears, lock and load>
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
Murder is murder. The UK is the crime capitol of Europe.
Oh yeah, prove it. None of the stats are comparable.
Ooooo. The little kitty can't use Google?
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1546&bih=762&q=uk+is+the+crime+capital+of+europe
You know, if condescending ever becomes an Olympic
sport, the sudden death play off round between you
and the French will be a thing to behold. You will
lose, but it will still be a thing to behold. There
is no shame in a silver medal.
Now go eat your own poop.
None of the stats are comparable. Prove me wrong. It's just the usual
press tittle tattle. I hope whatever your agenda is that it makes you
feel superior. Illusion is a wonderful thing. Keep taking the blue
pills.
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The tools differ. Criminals operate OUTSIDE the law.
Oh, and guns are becoming more and more a tool of
your criminals.
Maybe you should pass another law? Think they will pay
any more attention to it than they do all your other
ones?
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None of the stats are comparable. Prove me wrong. It's just the usual
press tittle tattle. I hope whatever your agenda is that it makes you
feel superior. Illusion is a wonderful thing. Keep taking the blue
pills.
The only difference it the tools poop cat. You live
in one violent condescending country. The most violent
country in Europe.

And the statistics got your sorry condescending asses dead.

Now go puke and eat it back. Maybe dismember a mouse
whilst you are at it.
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None of the stats are comparable. Prove me wrong. It's just the usual
press tittle tattle. I hope whatever your agenda is that it makes you
feel superior. Illusion is a wonderful thing. Keep taking the blue
pills.
The only difference it the tools poop cat. You live
in one violent condescending country. The most violent
country in Europe.
And the statistics got your sorry condescending asses dead.
Now go puke and eat it back. Maybe dismember a mouse
whilst you are at it.
Have you eaten today peasant? What a wonderful balmy autumn day it has
been here. There was ne'er to be seen of the hordes of which you speak
as I left the house, door unlocked, and made my way to the bakers. After
purchasing a doorstep sarnie made with the finest artisan bread and a
rather milky for my taste cappuccino I sat by the duck pond and watched
as a heron flew in with a koi carp in its beak. Naughty heron I thought,
I wonder whose pond you nicked that from, but not wishing to raise the
blood pressure of Daily Mail readers the world over I resisted the
temptation to fire up my mobile and squeal on said bird to the local
plod and thereby doubling the crime statistics in our area over the past
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None of the stats are comparable. Prove me wrong. It's just the usual
press tittle tattle. I hope whatever your agenda is that it makes you
feel superior. Illusion is a wonderful thing. Keep taking the blue
pills.
The only difference it the tools poop cat. You live
in one violent condescending country. The most violent
country in Europe.
And the statistics got your sorry condescending asses dead.
Now go puke and eat it back. Maybe dismember a mouse
whilst you are at it.
Have you eaten today peasant? What a wonderful balmy autumn day it has
been here. There was ne'er to be seen of the hordes of which you speak
as I left the house, door unlocked, and made my way to the bakers. After
purchasing a doorstep sarnie made with the finest artisan bread and a
rather milky for my taste cappuccino I sat by the duck pond and watched
as a heron flew in with a koi carp in its beak. Naughty heron I thought,
I wonder whose pond you nicked that from, but not wishing to raise the
blood pressure of Daily Mail readers the world over I resisted the
temptation to fire up my mobile and squeal on said bird to the local
plod and thereby doubling the crime statistics in our area over the past
year.
Life was good on the south Oxford canal, too! ;-)
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None of the stats are comparable. Prove me wrong. It's just the usual
press tittle tattle. I hope whatever your agenda is that it makes you
feel superior. Illusion is a wonderful thing. Keep taking the blue
pills.
The only difference it the tools poop cat.  You live
in one violent condescending country.  The most violent
country in Europe.
And the statistics got your sorry condescending asses dead.
Now go puke and eat it back.  Maybe dismember a mouse
whilst you are at it.
Have you eaten today peasant? What a wonderful balmy autumn day it has
been here. There was ne'er to be seen of the hordes of which you speak
as I left the house, door unlocked, and made my way to the bakers. After
purchasing a doorstep sarnie made with the finest artisan bread and a
rather milky for my taste cappuccino I sat by the duck pond and watched
as a heron flew in with a koi carp in its beak. Naughty heron I thought,
I wonder whose pond you nicked that from, but not wishing to raise the
blood pressure of Daily Mail readers the world over I resisted the
temptation to fire up my mobile and squeal on said bird to the local
plod and thereby doubling the crime statistics in our area over the past
year.
Life was good on the south Oxford canal, too!  ;-)
Why don't you two put big a christian cross or better
yet, a giant star of david and go walk the streets of
London.

Hmmmm. A lot of the USA is a crime free as you describe.
Where I live is one of them. There are certain pockets
that are not, mostly those cities run by Left Wingers,
such as Chicago, and just like the crime capitol of Europe
(UK).

All depends on where you live in our two countries.

When did we ever before your friends anyway! That
will be one for the historians to suss out!
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None of the stats are comparable. Prove me wrong. It's just the usual
press tittle tattle. I hope whatever your agenda is that it makes you
feel superior. Illusion is a wonderful thing. Keep taking the blue
pills.
The only difference it the tools poop cat.  You live
in one violent condescending country.  The most violent
country in Europe.
And the statistics got your sorry condescending asses dead.
Now go puke and eat it back.  Maybe dismember a mouse
whilst you are at it.
Have you eaten today peasant? What a wonderful balmy autumn day it has
been here. There was ne'er to be seen of the hordes of which you speak
as I left the house, door unlocked, and made my way to the bakers. After
purchasing a doorstep sarnie made with the finest artisan bread and a
rather milky for my taste cappuccino I sat by the duck pond and watched
as a heron flew in with a koi carp in its beak. Naughty heron I thought,
I wonder whose pond you nicked that from, but not wishing to raise the
blood pressure of Daily Mail readers the world over I resisted the
temptation to fire up my mobile and squeal on said bird to the local
plod and thereby doubling the crime statistics in our area over the past
year.
Life was good on the south Oxford canal, too!  ;-)
Why don't you two put big a christian cross or better
yet, a giant star of david and go walk the streets of
London.
You're really funny. It's like the only things in your head are Daily
Mail articles and your responses are just munged together randomised
snippets cobbled together into a meaningless almost unintelligible mish
mash of gibberish. We had a house in London until recently. So I did
'walk the streets'. For 30+ years. I know what the crime stats were
there as well.
Post by T
Hmmmm. A lot of the USA is a crime free as you describe.
Where I live is one of them. There are certain pockets
that are not, mostly those cities run by Left Wingers,
such as Chicago, and just like the crime capitol of Europe
(UK).
The word is capital.
Post by T
All depends on where you live in our two countries.
Well I guess stating the bleeding obvious bests total gibberish.
Post by T
When did we ever before your friends anyway! That
will be one for the historians to suss out!
You really need to proof read your crap.

Most Americans don't seem to feel the need to study history. They just
spew a kind of really funny collective Hollywood style fantasy and fill
in the bits with the first fricken improvised segue that fits the agenda
and deliver it with that charming patronising vacuous smile you have.

Like *you* winning your war of independence. Larf.

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Like*you* winning your war of independence
Uh Huh. Keep rewriting history to your own liking.
You got your sorry imperialist asses kicked!
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Like*you* winning your war of independence
Uh Huh. Keep rewriting history to your own liking.
You got your sorry imperialist asses kicked!
I didn't expect you to know.

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Like*you* winning your war of independence. Larf.
Here you go kitty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown

You got your asses kicked.

AND WE DID NOT MURDER YOUR PRISONERS!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown
You got your asses licked.
You were good at that. You got a lot of practice licking all those
French arses.
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You were good at that. You got a lot of practice licking all those
French arses.
We had help indeed! The Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette
will forever be in our hearts as one of our greatest heroes.

We lost 5% of our population. The greatest loss by percentage of
population in our history. We did the greatest part of the
fighting, bleeding and dying.

And you hired Hessian mercenaries. Didn't think I'd remember that
did you kitty. And after the war. Most of them stayed and
became Americans. Ant that was possible BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MURDER
THEM.

You got your sorry, murdering, imperialistic asses kicked. It must
still hurt your condescending collective egos that the French helped.
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You were good at that. You got a lot of practice licking all those
French arses.
We had help indeed! The Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette
will forever be in our hearts as one of our greatest heroes.
We lost 5% of our population. The greatest loss by percentage of
population in our history. We did the greatest part of the
fighting, bleeding and dying.
And you hired Hessian mercenaries. Didn't think I'd remember that
did you kitty. And after the war. Most of them stayed and
became Americans. Ant that was possible BECAUSE WE DIDN'T MURDER
THEM.
You got your sorry, murdering, imperialistic asses kicked. It must
still hurt your condescending collective egos that the French helped.
Helped. Do you really think a few colonists with dead raccoons on their
heads could take on the might of the British Empire.

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You got your sorry, murdering, imperialistic asses kicked. It must
still hurt your condescending collective egos that the French helped.
Helped. Do you really think a few colonists with dead raccoons on their
heads could take on the might of the British Empire.
Yes. And we kicked you unholy, murdering, imperialistic asses.

Here you go kitty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Revolutionary_War_battles

Read it over next time you think of uttering your
condescending nonsense.

How we EVER became your friend and sent our children to
die for your stupidity will be something for the historians
to ponder for centuries.

Now go eat your own poop kitty.
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They did, they beat your ass but good.

and in less than 200 years became the world super power
while the British empire died and shriveled up to nothing
and now can not even resist the muslim invaders.

Not to mention talking with the EU about a divorce because they did not have
the courage
to just walk away...will never exit the EU.

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Helped. Do you really think a few colonists with dead raccoons on their
heads could take on the might of the British Empire.
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Like*you*  winning your war of independence. Larf.
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown
You got your asses kicked.
AND WE DID NOT MURDER YOUR PRISONERS!
Strictly speaking, weren't they traitors? The penalty for treason was
death.
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Like*you*  winning your war of independence. Larf.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown
You got your asses kicked.
AND WE DID NOT MURDER YOUR PRISONERS!
Wow!
Strictly speaking, weren't they traitors?  The penalty for treason was
death.
So you thought you were morally justified?

Just throw them in a hole and let them starve to death
(New York) or just execute them on the battle field
(everywhere)? You had a moral right to this?

The only thing I can think of that made us friends
was the economic ties that ensued. But I am still
scratching my head, especially after the condescending
way a lot of Brits act towards us to this day. Not
all of you.
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Like*you*  winning your war of independence. Larf.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown
You got your asses kicked.
AND WE DID NOT MURDER YOUR PRISONERS!
Wow!
Strictly speaking, weren't they traitors?  The penalty for treason was
death.
So you thought you were morally justified?
I don't know about morally but killing rebels, whether you want to call
it murder or execution, gives a pretty clear message to colonials.
Post by T
Just throw them in a hole and let them starve to death
(New York) or just execute them on the battle field
(everywhere)?  You had a moral right to this?
You know, times have changed since then.
Post by T
The only thing I can think of that made us friends
was the economic ties that ensued.
Or people chose not to live in the past.
Post by T
But I am still
scratching my head, especially after the condescending
way a lot of Brits act towards us to this day.  Not
all of you.
The condescension can be entirely mutual. The way some Americans used
to tell it, the USA is the only free functioning democracy and you would
think you had invented the system. I've noticed a certain silence on
that front of late but a number of you still claim you won the war for us.

The same people who look down on America are often the same people who
consume McDonalds and consume third rate US sitcoms. Why do you worry
about the opinions of some rather confused individuals?
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The condescension can be entirely mutual. The way some Americans used
to tell it, the USA is the only free functioning democracy and you would
think you had invented the system. I've noticed a certain silence on
that front of late but a number of you still claim you won the war for us.
The same people who look down on America are often the same people who
consume McDonalds and consume third rate US sitcoms. Why do you worry
about the opinions of some rather confused individuals?
Don't pander to the weaklings. Just tell them to fuck off.

They'll never grow up otherwise.

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Like*you*  winning your war of independence. Larf.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown
You got your asses kicked.
AND WE DID NOT MURDER YOUR PRISONERS!
Wow!
Strictly speaking, weren't they traitors?  The penalty for treason
was death.
So you thought you were morally justified?
I don't know about morally but killing rebels, whether you want to call
it murder or execution, gives a pretty clear message to colonials.
No, it was murder. Our captured soldiers were unarmed,
defenseless, and of no threat to you.

And our response was hot lead. Every time you murder one of
us, you just made our resolve stronger. Big mistake on your
part.
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Post by T
Just throw them in a hole and let them starve to death
(New York) or just execute them on the battle field
(everywhere)?  You had a moral right to this?
You know, times have changed since then.
General Washington was clear that this not be our practice.
And we had *** A LOT *** of reason to retaliate. You even
paid Indians to wage Total War on us: Killing everything,
women, children and even livestock.

So, things changed on your side. Ours was already there.
The Soviets never got here.
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Post by T
The only thing I can think of that made us friends
was the economic ties that ensued.
Or people chose not to live in the past.
There is a reason for that:
“Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
― Edmund Burke

By the way, he is credited as one of the founders of our
conservative movement (use to be called "liberal").

It is necessary that you remember your bad behavior so you
do not repeat it. And you behaved abominably to the rest of
the world. And I can see why you would not like to have
your faces constantly rubbed in it, especially since you
have reformed. The way you treated the Irish, it is amazing
they do not spit on your when they see you.
Post by Incubus
Post by T
But I am still
scratching my head, especially after the condescending
way a lot of Brits act towards us to this day.  Not
all of you.
The condescension can be entirely mutual.  The way some Americans used
to tell it, the USA is the only free functioning democracy and you would
think you had invented the system.
I don't know what Americans told you that, but our high school
history classes clearly teaches that democracy started with you.
And starting with the Magna Carta. We made improvements like
the ex post facto laws and freedom of religoun and speech and
Arms and replacing democracy with a republic. (We are not
a democracy. We are a republic.) We also teach that we
maintained almost all of your "common law". We threw out
the bad and retained the good. Your common law is still
quoted in our supreme court cases. Edmund Burke would be pleased.

To say democracy started with us and not you is just ignorant.
Post by Incubus
I've noticed a certain silence on
that front of late but a number of you still claim you won the war for us.
We do not claim to have won the war "for" you. What we do claim
was that we saved your asses, which we did. And that we won
the war "together" as "allies".
Post by Incubus
The same people who look down on America are often the same people who
consume McDonalds and consume third rate US sitcoms.
Our sitcoms stink of late. Third rate is a compliment.

Your IT Squad made me laugh so hard I puked.
Post by Incubus
Why do you worry
about the opinions of some rather confused individuals?
They are annoying. There are several that troll the home repair group.

Steven Fry did a wonderful documentary on us
http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/10/stephen-fry-in-america/
were he states:

The truth is, we are offended by the clear fact that so many
Americans know and care so very little about us. How dare
they not know who our Prime Minister is, or be so indifferent
as to believe that Wales is an island off the coast of
Scotland? We are quite literally not on the map as far as
they are concerned and that hurts. They can get along
without us, it seems, a lot better than we can get along
without them and how can that not be galling to our pride?
Thus we (or some of us) react with the superiority and
conceit characteristic of people who have been made to
feel deeply inferior.

And you don't know what I am talking about because you do not
do it. But I am sure you have noticed other Brits doing it.
Even your for home only consumption shows (they show up on
Netflix) snot all over us.
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Like*you*  winning your war of independence. Larf.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Yorktown
You got your asses kicked.
AND WE DID NOT MURDER YOUR PRISONERS!
Wow!
Strictly speaking, weren't they traitors?  The penalty for treason
was death.
So you thought you were morally justified?
I don't know about morally but killing rebels, whether you want to
call it murder or execution, gives a pretty clear message to colonials.
No, it was murder.  Our captured soldiers were unarmed,
defenseless, and of no threat to you.
Murder is in the eye of the beholder. I think there is an argument to
be made that some of the Nuremberg executions were murder.
And our response was hot lead.  Every time you murder one of
us, you just made our resolve stronger.  Big mistake on your
part.
Arguably, the whole thing was avoidable if the British government had
negotiated some form of representation
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Post by T
Just throw them in a hole and let them starve to death
(New York) or just execute them on the battle field
(everywhere)?  You had a moral right to this?
You know, times have changed since then.
General Washington was clear that this not be our practice.
And we had *** A LOT *** of reason to retaliate.  You even
paid Indians to wage Total War on us:  Killing everything,
women, children and even livestock.
So, things changed on your side.  Ours was already there.
The Soviets never got here.
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Post by T
The only thing I can think of that made us friends
was the economic ties that ensued.
Or people chose not to live in the past.
    “Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
    ― Edmund Burke
By the way, he is credited as one of the founders of our
conservative movement (use to be called "liberal").
It is necessary that you remember your bad behavior so you
do not repeat it.  And you behaved abominably to the rest of
the world.  And I can see why you would not like to have
your faces constantly rubbed in it, especially since you
have reformed.  The way you treated the Irish, it is amazing
they do not spit on your when they see you.
I have no objection to people being aware of history provided a balanced
view is encouraged. Your usage of language suggests an entirely
punitive view of history. It's not as though the people responsible are
still alive.

Are you one of those people who begs forgiveness for slavery from black
people?
Post by Incubus
Why do you worry about the opinions of some rather confused individuals?
They are annoying.  There are several that troll the home repair group.
Steven Fry did a wonderful documentary on us
    http://www.stephenfry.com/2008/10/stephen-fry-in-america/
      The truth is, we are offended by the clear fact that so many
      Americans know and care so very little about us. How dare
      they not know who our Prime Minister is, or be so indifferent
      as to believe that Wales is an island off the coast of
      Scotland? We are quite literally not on the map as far as
      they are concerned and that hurts. They can get along
      without us, it seems, a lot better than we can get along
      without them and how can that not be galling to our pride?
      Thus we (or some of us) react with the superiority and
      conceit characteristic of people who have been made to
      feel deeply inferior.
And you don't know what I am talking about because you do not
do it.  But I am sure you have noticed other Brits doing it.
Even your for home only consumption shows (they show up on
Netflix) snot all over us.
People like poking fun at stereotypes. I don't know whether it's
something to take seriously.

When I lived in Texas, I noticed that film and television villains would
very often have an English accent. It was so widespread, it almost
seemed a requirement.
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People like poking fun at stereotypes. I don't know whether it's
something to take seriously.
They like to give it but they can't take it.

It's so uncool and pitifully funny.

Yunno, why are they here in a brit political newsgroup. Poor little luvs
so desperate to prove summit or tother.

Never pick a fight with a cat if you don't like getting scratched.
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When I lived in Texas, I noticed that film and television villains would
very often have an English accent. It was so widespread, it almost
seemed a requirement.
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People like poking fun at stereotypes. I don't know whether it's
something to take seriously.
They like to give it but they can't take it.
It's so uncool and pitifully funny.
Yunno, why are they here in a brit political newsgroup. Poor little luvs
so desperate to prove summit or tother.
Speaking of stereotypes. Not all Brits act like you. Or
have such a bad an education as you.

And I was replying to alt.home.repair. How this got over
on to your political groups is a mystery to me.

Now go scratch yourself kitty.
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Not all Brits act like you. Or
have such a bad an education as you.
Now there's a sentence that just rolls off the tongue. A friggin'
masterpiece of literary art is what that is an' no mistaking. Don't let
anyone tell you otherwise matey. Well done. Cor! blimey Guv'nor. Just
dropping me h's as it appens for the benefit of some stereotypical role
play. A courtesy gesture towards our dear needy arrogant Yank brethren.
Apples an' pears, pubic airs. Salt of the earth, appiness and mirth. Bit
of advice, cos I'm nice. Pick on someone your own size next time.
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Strictly speaking, weren't they traitors?  The penalty for treason
was death.
So you thought you were morally justified?
I don't know about morally but killing rebels, whether you want to
call it murder or execution, gives a pretty clear message to colonials.
No, it was murder.  Our captured soldiers were unarmed,
defenseless, and of no threat to you.
Murder is in the eye of the beholder.  I think there is an argument to
be made that some of the Nuremberg executions were murder.
You are really pushing it. Nuremberg executions were for
monstrous behavior. Defending one's own country from a foreign
power is not the same thing.

By the way, I though it was disgusting that Honecker got off
scott free. He should have hung from a rope.
It is necessary that you remember your bad behavior so you
do not repeat it.  And you behaved abominably to the rest of
the world.  And I can see why you would not like to have
your faces constantly rubbed in it, especially since you
have reformed.  The way you treated the Irish, it is amazing
they do not spit on your when they see you.
I have no objection to people being aware of history provided a balanced
view is encouraged.  Your usage of language suggests an entirely
punitive view of history.
No, just an annoyance of the snot a lot of Brits throw at us.
It's not as though the people responsible are
still alive.
Very true.
Are you one of those people who begs forgiveness for slavery from black
people?
It is something we dealt with. Forgiveness was purchased
with 620,000 souls, 2% of our population.

You outlawed slavery before us and it did not cost you 620,000.
We must not forget. Neither must you forget that the sun never set
on your monstrous behavior.
People like poking fun at stereotypes.  I don't know whether it's
something to take seriously.
To give you a good example, I tried to located Simon Whistler's
Today I Found Out video about the 10 things Americans do not realize
that do not travel. I could not find it, so apparently, I am not
the only one that found it offensive. Every point he made
was twisting the truth, like why in the world would Americans
think other countries taught American history. He put a lot
of words in our mouths.

Now Simon is an intelligent and extremely literate man. He
is also very good at what he does. This means that he is
not an ignorant buffoon. He meant to be insulting. He is
just an ass hole.
When I lived in Texas, I noticed that film and television villains would
very often have an English accent.  It was so widespread, it almost
seemed a requirement.
And since you lived among us, you know us. That would
explain why you don't reek of the stereotypes.
Now-a-days, the villains are portrayed as Republicans and
listen to Classical Music.
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