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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-06 14:07:51 UTC
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter



Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.

Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.

An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/

The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same problems:
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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2018-01-06 16:18:51 UTC
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.

There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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2018-01-06 16:21:23 UTC
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dear soy boy,

So you again have nothing but name calling to counter the published story.

typical of a nym shifting sorry arse cunt troll.



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: <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
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: >Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
: >
: >
: >
: >Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe
are
: >unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
: >
: >Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
: >(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
: >
: >An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in
one
: >region had the same problems.
: >
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http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
: >
: >The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
: >heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same problems:
:
: That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
: population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
:
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dear soy boy,
So you again have nothing but name calling to counter the published story.
I did just counter it. Were the maths above your pay grade? 2% of 5.5
milion is 110,000. So if we compare that with UK population 65 million
that would equal 1.3 million. Say 2 people per household. It's my guess
that many would be old and alone so 650,000 households seems reasonable.
The stats are of course a mess. You need to compare like for like but
the margin of error here doesn't seem to support your bullshit. Feel
free to counter Bouffant.
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typical of a nym shifting sorry arse cunt troll.
: On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
: >
: >
: >
: >Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe
are
: >unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
: >
: >Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
: >(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
: >
: >An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in
one
: >region had the same problems.
: >
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http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
: >
: >The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
: That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
: population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
: There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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: >country has an excellent GDP.
: >
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-06 16:33:49 UTC
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Dear soy boy
the story only said:
Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same problems:

You added distractors..putz.

An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/


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:
: >dear soy boy,
: >
: >So you again have nothing but name calling to counter the published
story.
:
: I did just counter it. Were the maths above your pay grade? 2% of 5.5
: milion is 110,000. So if we compare that with UK population 65 million
: that would equal 1.3 million. Say 2 people per household. It's my guess
: that many would be old and alone so 650,000 households seems reasonable.
: The stats are of course a mess. You need to compare like for like but
: the margin of error here doesn't seem to support your bullshit. Feel
: free to counter Bouffant.
:
:
: >typical of a nym shifting sorry arse cunt troll.
: >
: >
: >
: >"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <***@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote in
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: >: On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >: <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: >:
: >: >Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe
: >are
: >: >unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
: >: >
: >: >Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
: >: >(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
: >: >
: >: >An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes
in
: >one
: >: >region had the same problems.
: >: >
: >:
: >
Post by BurfordTJustice
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
: >: >
: >: >The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
: >: >heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
problems:
: >:
: >: That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
: >: population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
: >:
: >: There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
: >:
: >:
: >: >90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and
the
: >: >country has an excellent GDP.
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Dear soy boy
You added distractors..putz.
No idea what that is. I just did some quick maths. You held up Finland
are some kind of fine example. I don't see it and I ain't wasting my
time looking. Make your case or talk to the hand.
Post by BurfordTJustice
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
: On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 11:21:23 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >dear soy boy,
: >
: >So you again have nothing but name calling to counter the published
story.
: I did just counter it. Were the maths above your pay grade? 2% of 5.5
: milion is 110,000. So if we compare that with UK population 65 million
: that would equal 1.3 million. Say 2 people per household. It's my guess
: that many would be old and alone so 650,000 households seems reasonable.
: The stats are of course a mess. You need to compare like for like but
: the margin of error here doesn't seem to support your bullshit. Feel
: free to counter Bouffant.
: >typical of a nym shifting sorry arse cunt troll.
: >
: >
: >
: >: On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >: >Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe
: >are
: >: >unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
: >: >
: >: >Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
: >: >(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
: >: >
: >: >An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes
in
: >one
: >: >region had the same problems.
: >: >
: >
Post by BurfordTJustice
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
: >: >
: >: >The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
: >: >heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
: >: That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
: >: population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
: >: There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
: >: >90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and
the
: >: >country has an excellent GDP.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 11:33:49 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Dear soy boy
You added distractors..putz.
No idea what that is. I just did some quick maths. You held up Finland
are some kind of fine example. I don't see it and I ain't wasting my
time looking. Make your case or talk to the hand.
Crickets
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Post by BurfordTJustice
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
: On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 11:21:23 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >dear soy boy,
: >
: >So you again have nothing but name calling to counter the published
story.
: I did just counter it. Were the maths above your pay grade? 2% of 5.5
: milion is 110,000. So if we compare that with UK population 65 million
: that would equal 1.3 million. Say 2 people per household. It's my guess
: that many would be old and alone so 650,000 households seems reasonable.
: The stats are of course a mess. You need to compare like for like but
: the margin of error here doesn't seem to support your bullshit. Feel
: free to counter Bouffant.
: >typical of a nym shifting sorry arse cunt troll.
: >
: >
: >
: >: On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >: >Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >
: >: >Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe
: >are
: >: >unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
: >: >
: >: >Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
: >: >(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
: >: >
: >: >An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes
in
: >one
: >: >region had the same problems.
: >: >
: >
Post by BurfordTJustice
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
: >: >
: >: >The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
: >: >heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
: >: That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
: >: population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
: >: There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
: >: >90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and
the
: >: >country has an excellent GDP.
: >: >
: >: Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices. http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
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When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
You have it soft. As a poor Amerikan, I have to beg for
gasoline money to run the car heater. Luckily cars are getting
smaller, so they are cheaper to heat. And our fat isolates us from the
cold to some extent.
Oh, you were talking about the past ? Do you still have to
live in a brick house with central heating ? Bl^%$^dy socialism !!!!
My condolences.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices. http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.

We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh.  I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it.  I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire.  My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see. Thanks :-)
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh.  I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it.  I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire.  My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see.  Thanks :-)
  Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see. Thanks :-)
Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting. I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy). I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to do
anything with it.
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh.  I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it.  I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire.  My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see.  Thanks :-)
  Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting.  I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy).  I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to
do anything with it.
  It was in common use as a wood preservative in years past ...
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see. Thanks :-)
Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting. I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy). I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to
do anything with it.
It was in common use as a wood preservative in years past ...
That's what I got it for a few decades ago, but I believe it's banned
now. But I'm determined to use this last bit one day.
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh.  I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it.  I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire.  My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see.  Thanks :-)
  Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting.  I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy).  I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to
do anything with it.
  It was in common use as a wood preservative in years past ...
That's what I got it for a few decades ago, but I believe it's banned
now.  But I'm determined to use this last bit one day.
In the 1970's my dad painted the fence with crescote while smoking !

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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our
share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were
posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see. Thanks :-)
Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting. I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy). I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to
do anything with it.
It was in common use as a wood preservative in years past ...
That's what I got it for a few decades ago, but I believe it's banned
now. But I'm determined to use this last bit one day.
In the 1970's my dad painted the fence with crescote while smoking !
Now that has to be /doubly/ bad for you.
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see. Thanks :-)
Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting. I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy). I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to
do anything with it.
It was in common use as a wood preservative in years past ...
That's what I got it for a few decades ago, but I believe it's banned now.
But I'm determined to use this last bit one day.
In the 1970's my dad painted the fence with crescote while smoking !

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YES!!! I remember that kind of thing happening too!
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see. Thanks :-)
Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting. I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy). I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to
do anything with it.
It was in common use as a wood preservative in years past ...
That's what I got it for a few decades ago, but I believe it's banned
now. But I'm determined to use this last bit one day.

==

Aye, well, just don't stick on a fire ...
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see. Thanks :-)
Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Interesting. I always wonder how, in the past, people discovered and
made the things we buy (or used to buy). I still have a container of
creosote in the garage, but it smells so strongly, I am reluctant to
do anything with it.
It was in common use as a wood preservative in years past ...
That's what I got it for a few decades ago, but I believe it's banned
now. But I'm determined to use this last bit one day.
==
Aye, well, just don't stick on a fire ...
I shall do my best to remember that.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh.  I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it.  I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire.  My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I see.  Thanks :-)
  Not tar , but creosote , a byproduct of combustion of wood . Usually
caused by burning at too low temps , the creosote condenses out on the
flue . Flue fires ain't pretty , I've seen chunks of burning creosote
fly as far as 50 feet from the outlet of the chimney or stove pipe . We
burn our stove at max for an hour or so once a week to keep deposits down .
Tars and soot usually form because the flames are cooled before combustion is completed. So combustion stops although there is both air and fuel. (Quenching.)
Either by too much air or badly designed appliances.
Or not enough air admitted over the top of the fire.

As above you should try to burn them off before a large deposit catches fire in the chimney and causes damage (or even burns the house down)
http://papers.sae.org/845000/
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh.  I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it.  I had to content myself
with throwing crayons in the fire.  My dad once thought it would be a
good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible).
Tar deposits.
I hope the fire was well alight and had a good draught, burning plastic
gives off Hydrogen cyanide.

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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently
a program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd
probably have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content
myself with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it
would be a good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and
ended up setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible).
Tar deposits.
I hope the fire was well alight and had a good draught, burning plastic
gives off Hydrogen cyanide.
I don't remember that particular detail. We spent most of the duration
of the incident in the street looking at the sparks coming out of the
chimney. As did the neighbours. Quite embarrassing.
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently
a program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd
probably have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content
myself with throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it
would be a good idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and
ended up setting fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible).
Tar deposits.
I hope the fire was well alight and had a good draught, burning plastic
gives off Hydrogen cyanide.
I don't remember that particular detail. We spent most of the duration
of the incident in the street looking at the sparks coming out of the
chimney. As did the neighbours. Quite embarrassing.

==

lol them were t'days:))
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy oil
for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a program to
pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real oligarchs doesn't
raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see it
from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without strong
communities (but with sellout trade unions and representatives),
consuming half truths and half lies from psychopaths writers and
journalists who live mostly as parasites inside the secret agencies and
the newspapers, which all of them build an invisible global super nation.
The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.

We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking

===

We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!

If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
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2018-01-10 13:19:36 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
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2018-01-10 13:35:33 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.

This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?

Of course really posh people used a gas poker to light a Zip firefighter, but
let’s leave that aside for the moment.
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2018-01-10 13:47:20 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Post by johnny-knowall
Of course really posh people used a gas poker to light a Zip firefighter, but
let’s leave that aside for the moment.
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2018-01-10 13:53:03 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.

It is just the same with making tea. Do you add tea to the milk, or milk to
the tea?

Do add jam to your scones and put thick cream on top, or do you add the cream
first and jam second?

In fact, do you pronounce scone to rhyme with “throne" or with “don”?

In many parts of the uk, these things matter.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling'). Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
Post by johnny-knowall
It is just the same with making tea. Do you add tea to the milk, or milk to
the tea?
Since you ask, milk first. And it does seem to make a difference.
Post by johnny-knowall
Do add jam to your scones and put thick cream on top, or do you add the cream
first and jam second?
Don't like anything sweet at all. Only savoury.
Post by johnny-knowall
In fact, do you pronounce scone to rhyme with “throne" or with “don”?
Don.
Post by johnny-knowall
In many parts of the uk, these things matter.
So I believe.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
once the paper burns just drops onto the grate.My grandad used to soak strips
of newspaper in water and he had a brick shaped device which would squeeze
out most of the water, and on sunny days he would line them up on an old
metal table in the sun to dry thoroughly. They were used as firelighters. He
had piles of them accumulated in his shed during the summer.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
It is just the same with making tea. Do you add tea to the milk, or milk to
the tea?
Since you ask, milk first. And it does seem to make a difference.
Post by johnny-knowall
Do add jam to your scones and put thick cream on top, or do you add the cream
first and jam second?
Don't like anything sweet at all. Only savoury.
Post by johnny-knowall
In fact, do you pronounce scone to rhyme with “throne" or with “don”?
Don.
My wife says it that way, but I am the opposite. She says I am posh.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
In many parts of the uk, these things matter.
So I believe.
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2018-01-10 14:45:32 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Post by johnny-knowall
once the paper burns just drops onto the grate.My grandad used to soak strips
of newspaper in water and he had a brick shaped device which would squeeze
out most of the water, and on sunny days he would line them up on an old
metal table in the sun to dry thoroughly. They were used as firelighters. He
had piles of them accumulated in his shed during the summer.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
It is just the same with making tea. Do you add tea to the milk, or milk to
the tea?
Since you ask, milk first. And it does seem to make a difference.
Post by johnny-knowall
Do add jam to your scones and put thick cream on top, or do you add the cream
first and jam second?
Don't like anything sweet at all. Only savoury.
Post by johnny-knowall
In fact, do you pronounce scone to rhyme with “throne" or with “don”?
Don.
My wife says it that way, but I am the opposite. She says I am posh.
We were definitely not posh :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
In many parts of the uk, these things matter.
So I believe.
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2018-01-10 15:10:51 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we
huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire
brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too
sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas
board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do
you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?

I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.

I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?

My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
the back boiler had started to boil. It was then a case of filling the bath
with the boiling water, which we had to use in the morning hoping that it had
not gone too cold.

Other nights, the fire would go out and all the water was barely tepid by
morning.
Post by johnny-knowall
once the paper burns just drops onto the grate.My grandad used to soak strips
of newspaper in water and he had a brick shaped device which would squeeze
out most of the water, and on sunny days he would line them up on an old
metal table in the sun to dry thoroughly. They were used as firelighters. He
had piles of them accumulated in his shed during the summer.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
It is just the same with making tea. Do you add tea to the milk, or milk to
the tea?
Since you ask, milk first. And it does seem to make a difference.
Post by johnny-knowall
Do add jam to your scones and put thick cream on top, or do you add the cream
first and jam second?
Don't like anything sweet at all. Only savoury.
Post by johnny-knowall
In fact, do you pronounce scone to rhyme with “throne" or with “don”?
Don.
My wife says it that way, but I am the opposite. She says I am posh.
We were definitely not posh :-)
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
In many parts of the uk, these things matter.
So I believe.
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2018-01-10 15:37:09 UTC
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)
Post by johnny-knowall
the back boiler had started to boil. It was then a case of filling the bath
with the boiling water, which we had to use in the morning hoping that it had
not gone too cold.
Other nights, the fire would go out and all the water was barely tepid by
morning.
Post by johnny-knowall
once the paper burns just drops onto the grate.My grandad used to soak strips
of newspaper in water and he had a brick shaped device which would squeeze
out most of the water, and on sunny days he would line them up on an old
metal table in the sun to dry thoroughly. They were used as firelighters. He
had piles of them accumulated in his shed during the summer.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Post by johnny-knowall
It is just the same with making tea. Do you add tea to the milk, or milk to
the tea?
Since you ask, milk first. And it does seem to make a difference.
Post by johnny-knowall
Do add jam to your scones and put thick cream on top, or do you add the cream
first and jam second?
Don't like anything sweet at all. Only savoury.
Post by johnny-knowall
In fact, do you pronounce scone to rhyme with “throne" or with “don”?
Don.
My wife says it that way, but I am the opposite. She says I am posh.
We were definitely not posh :-)
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In many parts of the uk, these things matter.
So I believe.
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)

==

HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.

==

You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)

I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!

Yep she was posh:))
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the
winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of
people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we
huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire
brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too
sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas
board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too
embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the
winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of
people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we
huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire
brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too
sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas
board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too
embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.

==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even if
you didn't recognise them:)
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the
winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of
people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria
(39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that
140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability
of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the
same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is
110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one
twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you
can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated
without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before
sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with
black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we
huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire
brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too
sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas
board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do
you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too
embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even
if you didn't recognise them:)
Did I give the impression that I was complaining? I thought my
reminiscences might have seemed vaguely happy. I've certainly
experienced a feeling of drifting into a pleasant nostalgia this afternoon.
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My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even
if you didn't recognise them:)
Did I give the impression that I was complaining? I thought my
reminiscences might have seemed vaguely happy. I've certainly
experienced a feeling of drifting into a pleasant nostalgia this afternoon.

==

No you weren't complaining:) but you said "living on a council estate was
not considered to be any great indicator of prosperity" I was pointing out
that to others, it was much better than what they had:)
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My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not.
Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even
if you didn't recognise them:)
Did I give the impression that I was complaining? I thought my
reminiscences might have seemed vaguely happy. I've certainly
experienced a feeling of drifting into a pleasant nostalgia this afternoon.
==
No you weren't complaining:) but you said "living on a council estate
was not considered to be any great indicator of prosperity" I was
pointing out that to others, it was much better than what they had:)
That's me telt! I shall try not to wallow in self-pity in future :-)
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My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not.
Bum-bum!
:-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even
if you didn't recognise them:)
Did I give the impression that I was complaining? I thought my
reminiscences might have seemed vaguely happy. I've certainly
experienced a feeling of drifting into a pleasant nostalgia this afternoon.
==
No you weren't complaining:) but you said "living on a council estate
was not considered to be any great indicator of prosperity" I was
pointing out that to others, it was much better than what they had:)
That's me telt! I shall try not to wallow in self-pity in future :-)

==

Aye, so think on, lad!

:)))
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the cat
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the
winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of
people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria
(39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that
140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boos
t_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability
of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the
same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is
110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one
twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many
people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets
recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-therman
ses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you
can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated
without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as
parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of
them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the
icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before
sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with
black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods
as we
huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our
share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were
posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays
are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd
probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content
myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be
a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the
fire
brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too
sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our
next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the
gas
board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way
ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one
cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6
to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst
person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal
fire, do
you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the
grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be
on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune
them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These
would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very
frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too
embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite
heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer
because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the
water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
Post by johnny-knowall
-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even
if you didn't recognise them:)
Did I give the impression that I was complaining? I thought my
reminiscences might have seemed vaguely happy. I've certainly
experienced a feeling of drifting into a pleasant nostalgia this afternoon.
You didn’t give me any impression at all, except that like myself you were
indulging in pleasant nostalgia.

I think it is nice to drift back through the memories sometimes. It certainly
shows how much life has changed in half a century or more.

Many of my relatives ended up in council housing, and although the properties
had outside toilets and no bathrooms when they were built; at least the
council came around the estates and their direct labour workers converted the
coal house and outside lav into indoor versions, accessed through a lobby
from the kitchen.
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the cat
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the
winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of
people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria
(39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that
140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boos
t_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability
of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the
same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is
110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one
twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many
people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets
recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-therman
ses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you
can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated
without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as
parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of
them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the
icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before
sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with
black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we
huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our
share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were
posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays
are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd
probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content
myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be
a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire
brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too
sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our
next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas
board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal
fire, do
you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy, but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
Post by johnny-knowall
I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
Post by johnny-knowall
-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even
if you didn't recognise them:)
Did I give the impression that I was complaining? I thought my
reminiscences might have seemed vaguely happy. I've certainly
experienced a feeling of drifting into a pleasant nostalgia this afternoon.
You didn’t give me any impression at all, except that like myself you were
indulging in pleasant nostalgia.
It can be a bit of a wrench when the years fall away like that. I can't
help wondering how I'd feel if I could see myself. Possibly quite sad.
Post by johnny-knowall
I think it is nice to drift back through the memories sometimes. It certainly
shows how much life has changed in half a century or more.
Many of my relatives ended up in council housing, and although the properties
had outside toilets and no bathrooms when they were built; at least the
council came around the estates and their direct labour workers converted the
coal house and outside lav into indoor versions, accessed through a lobby
from the kitchen.
My nan had an outside toilet. Full of crane flies and spiders, it was,
for me, a place of terror. She also had a commode next to the bed,
which just seemed odd.
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the cat
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the
winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of
people in
Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria
(39%),
Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that
140,000
homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_bo
os
t_to_
he
lp
_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability
of a
public
heating network. Only 2% of the people of Finland face the
same
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is
110,000.
Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one
twelfth you
moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
Post by BurfordTJustice
90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating
network
and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many
people
buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets
recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-therm
an
ses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you
can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated
without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as
parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of
them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the
icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before
sending us
on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with
black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods
as we
huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our
share of
its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were
posh. We
had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays
are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd
probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content
myself
with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be
a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up
setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was
possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the
fire
brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too
sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our
next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the
gas
board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way
ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one
cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6
to 8
weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst
person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal
fire, do
you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the
grate.
Apparently there are parts of the country where the coal has to be
on the
fire before it is lit; and others where the coal goes on once the
paper/sticks are alight.
They didn't have the money for sticks (I don't say 'faggots' simply
because we didn't call them that, or 'kindling').
My dad had some trees in the garden. Every spring he would prune
them very
carefully and trim the cuttings into about 12 inch lengths. These
would be
stored in boxes on a shelf in his shed to dry, and used very
frugally once
the living room fire was needed.
I do something similar with a chimnaea. I know they're a bit poncy,
but
it's a fun way (for a pyromaniac like me) to get rid of cuttings and
things. I've a chipper, but the noise it makes is just too
embarrassing.
Post by johnny-knowall
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
Just newspaper
scrunched up under the coal.
I am surprised that was enough to light the coal which is quite
heavy and
We had to use smokeless, and I think that burned more easily.
Maybe that was why you didn’t have to have the chimney swept?
Ah, yes. It did get sooty, but maybe not actually 'oily'.
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I never saw our chimney sweep much, but I gather he usually came
while we
were at school (nudge nudge) and he wasn’t needed in the summer
because we
didn’t have the fire on.
I’m not sure what was burned in our big stove in the kitchen, where
the
back boiler was. Maybe it was coke, or anthracite?
My dad tried to keep the stove going 24/7, but it was a bit hit and
miss.
Some nights we would wake up to this tremendous banging noise as the
water in
I remember that sort of banging noise. There was a lever up in the
chimney that you had to move from one side to another if you wanted hot
water. We had a bath once a year whether we need one, or not. Bum-bum!
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-)
==
HOT WATER??? Blimey. I knew you were posh when you said you lived in a
council house but .... hot water on tap???
Aye. Spoiled, we were.
==
You bloody well were, not that you will believe it:)
I had an Aunty who lived on a council estate. She had hot water on tap!
Yep she was posh:))
I have to say that, at the time, living on a council estate was not
considered to be any great indicator of prosperity. But I don't really
know. I have, AFAIK, only lived one life. I have no other to compare.
==
Don't worry, just remember some people didn't have your advantages, even
if you didn't recognise them:)
Did I give the impression that I was complaining? I thought my
reminiscences might have seemed vaguely happy. I've certainly
experienced a feeling of drifting into a pleasant nostalgia this afternoon.
You didn’t give me any impression at all, except that like myself you were
indulging in pleasant nostalgia.
It can be a bit of a wrench when the years fall away like that. I can't
help wondering how I'd feel if I could see myself. Possibly quite sad.
Post by johnny-knowall
I think it is nice to drift back through the memories sometimes. It certainly
shows how much life has changed in half a century or more.
Many of my relatives ended up in council housing, and although the properties
had outside toilets and no bathrooms when they were built; at least the
council came around the estates and their direct labour workers converted the
coal house and outside lav into indoor versions, accessed through a lobby
from the kitchen.
My nan had an outside toilet. Full of crane flies and spiders, it was,
for me, a place of terror. She also had a commode next to the bed,
which just seemed odd.
Yes, mine too.

I tended not to look too much around the outside toilet at my grannies,
especially in the summer when the place was full of flies and the spiders
hung from every available corner space.

Mind you, at least grannies toilet was a flushing porcelain one; unlike her
sister’s toilet which was simply a garden hut containing a wooden plank
with a hole in it, and a bucket underneath.

I will spare you any more detailed descriptions.
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It can be a bit of a wrench when the years fall away like that. I can't
help wondering how I'd feel if I could see myself. Possibly quite sad.
Post by johnny-knowall
I think it is nice to drift back through the memories sometimes. It certainly
shows how much life has changed in half a century or more.
Many of my relatives ended up in council housing, and although the properties
had outside toilets and no bathrooms when they were built; at least the
council came around the estates and their direct labour workers converted the
coal house and outside lav into indoor versions, accessed through a lobby
from the kitchen.
My nan had an outside toilet. Full of crane flies and spiders, it was,
for me, a place of terror. She also had a commode next to the bed,
which just seemed odd.

==

Yep outside toilet, across the small yard:) No commode unfortunately. It
was de rigueur to put your coat on to go to the 'lavvie' :) 'Toilet paper'
was for visitors. We had neatly cut squares of newspaper hanging from a
nail.

LOL It seems like another life. Bathroom??? lol you jest:)) 'Two up, two
down'. No space for bathrooms:))
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My nan had an outside toilet.  Full of crane flies and spiders, it was,
for me, a place of terror.  She also had a commode next to the bed,
which just seemed odd.
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Yep outside toilet, across the small yard:)  No commode unfortunately.
It was de rigueur to put your coat on to go to the 'lavvie' :)  'Toilet
paper' was for visitors.  We had neatly cut squares of newspaper hanging
from a nail.
It was fun in the winter when the carzy and tank used to freeze up. Even
more fun when they thawed out and the pipes burst.
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My nan had an outside toilet. Full of crane flies and spiders, it was,
for me, a place of terror. She also had a commode next to the bed,
which just seemed odd.
==
Yep outside toilet, across the small yard:) No commode unfortunately.
It was de rigueur to put your coat on to go to the 'lavvie' :) 'Toilet
paper' was for visitors. We had neatly cut squares of newspaper hanging
from a nail.
It was fun in the winter when the carzy and tank used to freeze up. Even
more fun when they thawed out and the pipes burst.
In 1962/3 winter all the school toilets froze up.

Us boys didn’t really worry because our lav was just a trough in the floor
with a cast iron back against the wall.

The head teacher was not too pleased (after informing us solemnly that there
would be buckets of water on the radiators for the girls to use as flushing
water) when one of us (not me) replied that if they peed on the ice in the
bowls it would probably melt anyway.

I don’t remember the school closing though.

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On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 09:07:51 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_h
eat_local_homes/
The results are closely linked to GDP and the availability of a public
That's a laughable stat. 2% of the people in Finland is 110,000. Their
population though is 1/12 that of the UK. That's one twelfth you moron.
There's lies, damned lies, statistics and Burfords crap.
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90% of Finnish houses are connected to a regional heating network and the
country has an excellent GDP.
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You can look at how many people die in winter and how many people buy
oil for winter in Greece. In fact the Greece gov sets recently a
program to pay an amount of the oil for the poor, so the real
oligarchs doesn't raise even more the prices.
http://www.aade.gr/polites/epidomata/epidoma-petrelaioy-thermanses
Many Greeks had turn to wood as a cheaper fuel and also you can see
it from the raise of wood stoves sales.
We are living in medieval where everyone is alone isolated without
strong communities (but with sellout trade unions and
representatives), consuming half truths and half lies from
psychopaths writers and journalists who live mostly as parasites
inside the secret agencies and the newspapers, which all of them
build an invisible global super nation. The earth is flat.
When I were young. Dad used to wake us at six, chip off the icicles
which formed from our dripping snot while we slept before sending us on
our way in our flannelette pyjamas to fill a bucket with black shiny
stuff from coal bunker in backyard. We blessed pagan gods as we huddled
around the coal fire in the living room and fought for our share of its
warming glow. The other kids on the street thought we were posh. We had
a gas poker, shoes on our feet, and jim jams. People nowadays are
sissies.
A gas poker /was/ posh. I'd have loved one as a lad, but I'd probably
have burnt the house down playing with it. I had to content myself with
throwing crayons in the fire. My dad once thought it would be a good
idea to burn an old plastic bog seat on the fire, and ended up setting
fire to the chimney (I never understood how that was possible). To our
lasting amusement, he had to run down the road and call the fire brigade
from the nearest call box.
We lived in a smokeless area, so our coal wasn't shiny. My
grandparents' was, but it made the air in the house a bit too sulphurous
for my liking
===
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
Hence our chimney fire :-) My dad has always been the worst person in
the world for doing any kind of maintenance whatsoever. Lives for
horse-racing.
Post by johnny-knowall
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
It was always just yesterday's newspaper scrunched up under the grate.

==

I used to make the fire when I got home from school. First rake out
yesterdays ashes, scrunch up paper, lay on sticks and then the coal

Blimey that has taken me back a bit!!!
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
Of course really posh people used a gas poker to light a Zip firefighter, but
let’s leave that aside for the moment.
I do remember the use of those paraffin-impregnated firelighters, but
they were expensive compared to yesterday's newspapers and some of those
litte wire-wrapped bundles of firewood sold at corner shops.

There was a definite art to lighting a coal fire, which I had certainly
mastered by the time I was nine or ten, right down to the use of a
coal-shovel and a single sheet of broadsheet newspaper across the
fireplace to cause an updraft through the grate.

This had to be carefully monitored for the minute or so it was in use
because the paper would inevitably darken and eventually catch fire - as
one contributor put it elsewhere recently - like the opening credits of
"Bonanza".When that happened, a certain deft manipulation of the sheet
was called for - and it often disappeared up the chimney, still burning.

We 'ad no elf'n'safety in those days, guv.

As per:

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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
Good heavens. Most people I knew had their chimney swept every 6 to 8 weeks
or so; especially if they used the fire for cooking.
This ‘posh’ discussion raises the question; with the coal fire, do you
light the paper and sticks before or after putting some coal on?
Of course really posh people used a gas poker to light a Zip firefighter, but
let’s leave that aside for the moment.
I do remember the use of those paraffin-impregnated firelighters, but
they were expensive compared to yesterday's newspapers and some of those
litte wire-wrapped bundles of firewood sold at corner shops.

There was a definite art to lighting a coal fire, which I had certainly
mastered by the time I was nine or ten, right down to the use of a
coal-shovel and a single sheet of broadsheet newspaper across the
fireplace to cause an updraft through the grate.

This had to be carefully monitored for the minute or so it was in use
because the paper would inevitably darken and eventually catch fire - as
one contributor put it elsewhere recently - like the opening credits of
"Bonanza".When that happened, a certain deft manipulation of the sheet
was called for - and it often disappeared up the chimney, still burning.

We 'ad no elf'n'safety in those days, guv.

As per: http://youtu.be/VXJ6zPYCwbE

==

Yep!
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did.  They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-)  We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.

Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did.  They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-)  We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.
Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.
I remember them, they put a blanket over the fireplace and poked their
brush up the chimney. A bit like drain rods but with a brush on the end.
We were sent outside to signal when the brush popped out of the chimney
pot which was sold to us by the adults as being super fun but was in
reality a bit dull and often left us standing in the wet and cold, then
my Dad used to bore us with the same story about how people in the old
days cleaned their teeth with soot and how lucky we were to be able to
clean our teeth with mint flavoured liquid sugar with a chalk filler.
Ah! progress.

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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.
Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.
Ours was a fifties terrace, with entries between every other pair of
houses. A brick shed and a coal shed. Only one fire, with a back
boiler. I don't remember it being cold, but it must have been.

No cars, a milkman, a breadman, a kids park at the top of the road.
Occasional rag-and-bone man. Blocks of flats nearby, which were more
exciting places to explore. Good times, I suppose.
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did.  They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-)  We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.
Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.
Ours was a fifties terrace, with entries between every other pair of
houses.  A brick shed and a coal shed.  Only one fire, with a back
boiler.  I don't remember it being cold, but it must have been.
Some of our relations lived in just such a house in the 1950s/60s (built
in the 1920s or 1930s and still bearing the residue on the windows of
adhesive paper tape laid in an x pattern across each pane to prevent
shattering in the event of an air-raid).

No matter what sort of house, I can't remember it being cold, either,
not even when I was in the front room in February doinmg my homework or
listening to records or Radio Luxembourg. Not even in that winter of
1962/63.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
No cars, a milkman, a breadman, a kids park at the top of the road.
Occasional rag-and-bone man.  Blocks of flats nearby, which were more
exciting places to explore.  Good times, I suppose.
:-)

Luxury...
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.
Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.
Ours was a fifties terrace, with entries between every other pair of
houses. A brick shed and a coal shed. Only one fire, with a back
boiler. I don't remember it being cold, but it must have been.
Some of our relations lived in just such a house in the 1950s/60s (built
in the 1920s or 1930s and still bearing the residue on the windows of
adhesive paper tape laid in an x pattern across each pane to prevent
shattering in the event of an air-raid).
No matter what sort of house, I can't remember it being cold, either,
not even when I was in the front room in February doinmg my homework or
Maybe you don't notice it when you're young. Our young lad (I started
late :-)) has been prancing around the house with no clobber on all year
round since he was born.
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listening to records or Radio Luxembourg. Not even in that winter of
1962/63.
I'd only be 2 then, and at that time we lived in an older (maybe 30's)
terrace which was probably even colder and draughtier.
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
No cars, a milkman, a breadman, a kids park at the top of the road.
Occasional rag-and-bone man. Blocks of flats nearby, which were more
exciting places to explore. Good times, I suppose.
:-)
Luxury...
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.
Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.
Ours was a fifties terrace, with entries between every other pair of
houses. A brick shed and a coal shed. Only one fire, with a back
boiler. I don't remember it being cold, but it must have been.
Some of our relations lived in just such a house in the 1950s/60s (built
in the 1920s or 1930s and still bearing the residue on the windows of
adhesive paper tape laid in an x pattern across each pane to prevent
shattering in the event of an air-raid).

No matter what sort of house, I can't remember it being cold, either,
not even when I was in the front room in February doinmg my homework or
listening to records or Radio Luxembourg. Not even in that winter of
1962/63.
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
No cars, a milkman, a breadman, a kids park at the top of the road.
Occasional rag-and-bone man. Blocks of flats nearby, which were more
exciting places to explore. Good times, I suppose.
:-)

Luxury...

==

Certainly was. No, I never felt cold either. We were used to it.
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever having
it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared about
anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.

Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.

==

My job was to go outside and tell the sweep when the brush came out of the
top of the chimney:))
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever having
it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared about
anything like that.
I have never lived on a council estate; that was just the way it
happened, and it could easily have been the other way round if
circumstances had been slightly different. We lived in either
traditional three up-two down terraced houses (or flats over pubs) all
the way through my childhood and adolescence.
Those houses had minimal provision for heating (essentially one open
fireplace in each of four rooms, but none in the smallest bedroom).
Naturally, only one room tended to be heated, but I cannot remember a
chimney sweep ever being needed or in attendance. In fact, I'm not sure
I've ever seen a chimney sweep.
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My job was to go outside and tell the sweep when the brush came out of the
top of the chimney:))
Yes, I was sent out to do that; although having swept my own chimney there is
a sudden ‘give’ on the rods as the brush reaches the top.

I was also sent outside to count the sacks the coal man delivered. He still
had a horse and cart in those days, and tried to distract me by getting me
interested in the horse; but it seemed huge to me and I kept my distance.

All my relatives had those big cast iron fireplaces with ovens and
saucepans/kettles over the fire; but my parents moved to a house with an
electric cooker (and was the talk of the neighbourhood - hence the idea that
we were posh) but I missed the big range things.I would love to have one
again, but I need an old farmhouse to go with it, and the wife is not keen to
live in splendid isolation.

I used to stay with my grandma quite a bit in the holidays, and she had no
electricity at all for many years and no hot water on tap.

The tin bath came out on Saturday evening and was put close to the fire.
Also, I was privileged to have the water first, so that I could be upstairs
in bed before the grandparents took their clothes off. Normally, the children
had the water after everyone else had had their bath.
Ophelia
2018-01-10 15:52:31 UTC
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We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.

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You never had your chimney swept???

Heh council estates were posh to us. We lived in a row of small cottages.
(rented) We were the poshest though cos we were on the end;)

We still had our chimneys swept regularly. The fear of fire was too great.
We had those big cast iron grates with an oven on one side and a hob on the
other. Big fires!
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-01-10 16:00:04 UTC
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Post by Ophelia
We weren't posh enough to have a gas poker either, but our next door
neighbour did. They weren't posh either but he worked for the gas board!
If your chimney was on fire it needed sweeping:)
I dare say it did, but I don't remember anyone around our way ever
having it done. :-) We lived on a council estate, and no-one cared
about anything like that.
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You never had your chimney swept???
Heh council estates were posh to us. We lived in a row of small
cottages. (rented) We were the poshest though cos we were on the end;)
We still had our chimneys swept regularly. The fear of fire was too
great. We had those big cast iron grates with an oven on one side and a
hob on the other. Big fires!
johnny has mentioned that since we had to use smokeless, it might not
have been so important. I don't know enough about such things.
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2018-01-06 16:58:05 UTC
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
Statistics from EU agency Eurostat, show that a lot of people in Europe are
unable to keep their houses warm in winter.
Especially a large percentage of the people of Bulgaria (39%), Lithuania
(29%) and Greece (29%) are too poor to heat their homes.
An earlier study in the United Kingdom also showed that 140,000 homes in one
region had the same problems.
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/15793379.Cash_boost_to_help_heat_local_homes/
Them bucky-toothed limeys gotta be careful not to bite their tongue off with the chattery bucky teeth.
LOL
Mr. Man-wai Chang
2018-01-10 15:52:37 UTC
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Many Europeans are too poor to heat their homes during the winter
....
Centralized heating is more effective and energy-efficient?
So let's live in camps during winter? ;)
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