Post by Svenne Post by Judith
"The court has determined that these men crossed that line and used
their platform to comment on other religions and sexuality using
disparaging and offensive language.
As a left wing liberal I fully defend the right of anyone to believe
whatever demented garbage they please. But since the craziness echoing
around inside their skulls, whether it is the crap invented by the
murdering warlord and rapist Muhammad or the insanities dreamt up by the
science fiction writer and con man L Ron Hubbard, also belong in the
realm of ideas I don't see why I should be legally deprived of the right
to call their lunatic ideas for what they are.
Although I think the law may be a bit unclear on this point. I think I
might well get away with calling L Ron Hubbard's or even Joseph Smith's
or the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Societies gibberish for the mentally
retarded shit that it is, but if I should happen to include Muhammad's
garbage in the same list I could well fall foul of the law.
A strange position to be in for someone who is a resolute and
uncompromising defender of the above mentioned retards right to believe
whatever idiotic tripe they like.
Perhaps because this cannot be and is not merely an issue of
free speech or belief. The question in law for law
enforcement is to consider whether words used are likely to
lead to a breach of the peace.
My personal belief is that religious matters are not for
state enforcement nor for enforcement through party
manifestos. Religious beliefs particularly relating to start
and end of life issues can still guide the votes of
individuals in parliament acting without theocratic diktats
from their parties or other state or semi-state forces.
That aside it there is clearly a difference between telling
a Jehovahs Witness that their religion is fake and telling
the same to a Muslim. The former is unlikely to lead to a
breach of a peace whilst the latter is more likely. The
possibility of a breach of the peace is a legitimate
criteria for law enforcement to consider. I am not and never
been a Muslim but I do take the view that the so called
West has been making a business of regime change + bombing
seven Muslim countries. Maybe the west might want to consider
the consequences including a swamp of bitterness which is
currently radicalising the Muslim faith reducing that
faith's ability to see any criticism as other than a
"crusade" with all its historical connotations.