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Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
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2017-02-26 03:19:19 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.

Always keep one somewhere in the car.

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2017-02-26 07:34:40 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
Or cash. :)
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Ophelia
2017-02-26 11:17:29 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
Or cash. :)
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2017-02-26 12:41:09 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
Or cash. :)
Cash No Longer King: Europe Accelerates Move To Begin Elimination Of
Paper Money

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/cash-no-longer-king-europe-accelerates-move-begin-elimination-paper-money
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2017-02-26 12:53:19 UTC
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Cash No Longer King: Europe Accelerates Move To Begin Elimination Of
Paper Money
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/cash-no-longer-king-europe-accelerates-move-begin-elimination-paper-money
Politicians eliminating their own ability to take untraceable bribes?
I'll believe that when I see it.
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2017-02-26 13:25:08 UTC
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Cash No Longer King: Europe Accelerates Move To Begin Elimination Of
Paper Money
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/cash-no-longer-king-europe-accelerates-move-begin-elimination-paper-money
Politicians eliminating their own ability to take untraceable bribes?
I'll believe that when I see it.
Joe
2017-02-26 15:38:34 UTC
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Cash No Longer King: Europe Accelerates Move To Begin Elimination Of
Paper Money
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/cash-no-longer-king-europe-accelerates-move-begin-elimination-paper-money
Politicians eliminating their own ability to take untraceable bribes?
I'll believe that when I see it.
It appears to be perfectly possible to set up a bank account,
fraudulently divert money into it, transfer that money elsewhere and
just disappear.

It should not be possible, but it is, so I don't think a lack of beer
coupons will slow down a corrupt politician. A network of companies
owning each other, some of them charities, should be all that is
necessary to launder money successfully.
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Ophelia
2017-02-26 11:16:49 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.

Always keep one somewhere in the car.

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Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept cheques.

What they would do in that case is another matter.
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JNugent
2017-02-27 03:28:28 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept cheques.
What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.

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Joe
2017-02-27 10:19:52 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
How many bank counters can work on old technology only?
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2017-02-27 17:17:49 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
How many bank counters can work on old technology only?
Not only do I not know the answer (and how could I?), but I'm not even
so sure of what you're asking me.

You can cash a cheque at any branch of your own bank up to the limit
allowed by your debit card (which started their life as cheque guarantee
cards ensuring payments of up to £30).

At your own branch, the amount is theoretically unlimited. At other
branches, it's probably £100.

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2017-02-27 18:47:56 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves
them unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
How many bank counters can work on old technology only?
Not only do I not know the answer (and how could I?), but I'm not
even so sure of what you're asking me.
You can cash a cheque at any branch of your own bank up to the limit
allowed by your debit card (which started their life as cheque
guarantee cards ensuring payments of up to £30).
You cannot and you can not if the computers are down.
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At your own branch, the amount is theoretically unlimited. At other
branches, it's probably £100.
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JNugent
2017-02-28 01:16:59 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves
them unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
How many bank counters can work on old technology only?
Not only do I not know the answer (and how could I?), but I'm not
even so sure of what you're asking me.
You can cash a cheque at any branch of your own bank up to the limit
allowed by your debit card (which started their life as cheque
guarantee cards ensuring payments of up to £30).
You cannot and you can not if the computers are down.
Bank branches have access to large-ish sums from their individual strong
rooms - thousands of pounds (more than individual counter staff have in
their cash-drawer).



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JNugent
2017-02-28 18:30:43 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
How many bank counters can work on old technology only?
Opening drawers, counting cash, getting signatures on forms, making
records of payments in or out (with a paper and pen)?

Something pretty close to 100%, I'd say. It's how all banks operated
until quite recently.

Whether they want to do it is another matter, since every transaction
will eventually need to be input onto the main system.

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2017-02-27 10:52:59 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
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Not if the computers are down.
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2017-02-27 17:19:49 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
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Not if the computers are down.
The compouters are not necessary. This system was in operation before a
computer terminal was ever placed in a bank branch.

The debit card acts as a guarantee of the amount of a cheque up to the
card's limit. It's no different in effect from the bank guaranteeing the
same amount if and when you pay a merchant by cheque.

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2017-02-27 17:38:34 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves
them unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
---
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Not if the computers are down.
The compouters are not necessary. This system was in operation before
a computer terminal was ever placed in a bank branch.
Is it even possible to open a cash register drawer without electronic
assistance?
Post by JNugent
The debit card acts as a guarantee of the amount of a cheque up to
the card's limit. It's no different in effect from the bank
guaranteeing the same amount if and when you pay a merchant by cheque.
https://www.help.barclays.co.uk/faq/cards/debit-card/guarantee-cheque.html

"Can I use my debit card to guarantee a cheque?

"Not anymore. The Payments Council scrapped the cheque-guarantee card
scheme in 2011 because of the number of ways there are to pay for
things. You can still write cheques but won’t be able to guarantee them
with your debit card, even if it has the cheque guarantee hologram.

"For more details, visit the Payments UK website."
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2017-02-28 01:14:07 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves
them unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
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Not if the computers are down.
The compouters are not necessary. This system was in operation before
a computer terminal was ever placed in a bank branch.
Is it even possible to open a cash register drawer without electronic
assistance?
Post by JNugent
The debit card acts as a guarantee of the amount of a cheque up to
the card's limit. It's no different in effect from the bank
guaranteeing the same amount if and when you pay a merchant by cheque.
https://www.help.barclays.co.uk/faq/cards/debit-card/guarantee-cheque.html
"Can I use my debit card to guarantee a cheque?
"Not anymore. The Payments Council scrapped the cheque-guarantee card
scheme in 2011 because of the number of ways there are to pay for
things. You can still write cheques but won’t be able to guarantee them
with your debit card, even if it has the cheque guarantee hologram.
"For more details, visit the Payments UK website."
That's a technological change, not one in which trust has been
withdrawn. The banks were still willing to honour any cheque written
under the card guarantee scheme up to £100. They can trust their own
customers up to £100.

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2017-02-28 07:51:20 UTC
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The compouters are not necessary. This system was in operation before
a computer terminal was ever placed in a bank branch.
Is it even possible to open a cash register drawer without electronic
assistance?
There's bound to be some manual method, but in any case, we were talking
of the bank's computers being down, not the electricity supply, so the
tills will still operate.
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2017-02-28 18:31:56 UTC
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If you use a Mega Bank you deserve all the misery you get and more.
Barclays customers furious as nationwide computer crash leaves them
unable to withdraw money or pay on card
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2954676/barclays-computer-crash-card-money/
It's what cheques are for.
Always keep one somewhere in the car.
====
Some places (my nearest supermarket for one) no longer accept
cheques. What they would do in that case is another matter.
Cash a cheque across a bank counter, just like we used to before plastic.
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Not if the computers are down.
What's to stop the customer writing a cheque?

What's to stop the bank cashier handing over cash to the value of the
account-holder's cheque?

It's what banks always did. It has not become impossible.

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