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BurfordTJustice
2017-12-03 11:15:10 UTC
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Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force people
carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the same
approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon alone
is criminalised.

Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric acid --
such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office licence

Then some still wonder why the Empire is dead...

Fear in London as acid attacks soar

London (AFP) - Delivery rider Jabed Hussain was waiting at a traffic light
one night in east London when two attackers sprayed acid in his face and
stole his moped.

It was one of hundreds of attacks in the British capital every year that
have prompted government intervention and left the city's police force
asking the public for help to tackle the crime wave.

Hussain recalled feeling "burning on my face" during the robbery in Hackney.

"If they want to take my bike, there are a lot of weapons... why (have) they
got to choose the weapon of acid?" he told AFP as he returned to the spot
where the attack happened.

The number of assaults is increasing rapidly.

The British capital saw 454 acid attacks reported last year, up from 261 in
2015 and 166 the year before.

Hussain suffers from chest problems after swallowing water which he believes
contained traces of the acid, although his helmet protected much of his face
and he has no visible scars.

A pizza delivery driver attacked in north-east London last month was not so
lucky, left in a critical condition after being sprayed with acid while his
helmet visor was up.

- 'Scared' Londoners -

Jaf Shah, head of the London-based Acid Survivors Trust International, said
victims were "incredibly strong, resilient and courageous individuals".

"Because when you take into account the devastation of such an attack, it
requires an enormous amount of strength to go through and recover," he told
AFP.

Shah blamed the increase in attacks on a lack of regulation to stop people
buying acid, although he noted the recent cases have "concentrated the minds
of government officials".

Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force people
carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the same
approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon alone
is criminalised.

Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric acid --
such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office licence.

MP Stephen Timms called for the changes in parliament in July, after his
east London constituency of East Ham suffered a spate of attacks.

His intervention followed an attack against two cousins who were sitting in
their car in Beckton, leaving both with life-changing injuries.

"What we cannot do is allow a situation where people feel scared to walk
around the streets," he told AFP in his local library.

"And that's the position we were getting into after that attack on the two
cousins, people just thought it wasn't safe to walk up and down the road
anymore."

- 'Melted their skin' -

With many offenders in their teens or early 20s, East Ham's borough of
Newham in east London has preempted new legislation by asking shopkeepers to
challenge young people buying acid and refuse sales if they are suspicious
of customers' intentions.

"The response in Newham has been really positive... Shopkeepers are actually
very happy to be involved in addressing this problem," said Timms.

While police have had some success in confiscating acid on the streets,
Hackney's borough commander Simon Laurence appealed to parents, teachers and
social workers to ask young people what they're carrying in plastic bottles.

"What's in it? Why are they carrying it? Because the police can't stop this
alone, and we need the help of the community," he told AFP outside Mangle
nightclub in east London, where 22 people were injured in April with a
substance the same strength as hydrochloric acid.

"It melted their skin, and they would have been in horrendous pain. Some of
those victims will have life-changing injuries that they will be reminded of
every day," Laurence said, after a 25-year-old man was convicted over the
attack.

London police carry acid response kits to treat victims and Laurence said
the force wanted to be able to test substances on the streets.

"The bit we've got to be able to get better at is identifying what's in the
bottle when someone's carrying it -- and to stop people thinking they're
able to use it to cause such horrendous injuries."

Fearful of returning to work, Hussain thinks more still needs to be done to
make people realise the devastating impact of such a weapon.

"Why (do) they use the acid to destroy somebody's face, and destroy
somebody's life?" he asked.
Svenne
2017-12-03 11:20:46 UTC
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Fearful of returning to work, Hussain thinks more still needs to be done to
make people realise the devastating impact of such a weapon.
No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a corrosive substance in an attack.
BurfordTJustice
2017-12-03 11:58:32 UTC
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Would not the EU say that would be against their civil rights?


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: On Sunday, 3 December 2017 13:15:13 UTC+2, BurfordTJustice wrote:
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: > Fearful of returning to work, Hussain thinks more still needs to be done
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: > make people realise the devastating impact of such a weapon.
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: No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a corrosive
substance in an attack.
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2017-12-03 12:49:09 UTC
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Would not the EU say that would be against their civil rights?
You tell us. You're the expert.

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2017-12-03 15:40:36 UTC
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Fearful of returning to work, Hussain thinks more still needs to be done to
make people realise the devastating impact of such a weapon.
No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a corrosive substance in an attack.
As in 10 *months* - knowing the lefty judges we seem to get nowadays? 8)
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2017-12-03 17:12:34 UTC
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Fearful of returning to work, Hussain thinks more still needs to be done to
make people realise the devastating impact of such a weapon.
No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a corrosive substance in an attack.
As in 10 *months* - knowing the lefty judges we seem to get nowadays? 8)
Sentences should be in years and double figures without zeros in them.
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2017-12-03 21:08:36 UTC
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So 11 would be ok?



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: On Sunday, 3 December 2017 17:40:52 UTC+2, Paul Hyett wrote:
: > On 03/12/2017 11:20, Svenne wrote:
: > > On Sunday, 3 December 2017 13:15:13 UTC+2, BurfordTJustice wrote:
: > >
: > >> Fearful of returning to work, Hussain thinks more still needs to be
done to
: > >> make people realise the devastating impact of such a weapon.
: > >
: > > No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a
corrosive substance in an attack.
: > >
: >
: > As in 10 *months* - knowing the lefty judges we seem to get nowadays? 8)
:
: Sentences should be in years and double figures without zeros in them.
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2017-12-03 22:18:45 UTC
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So 11 would be ok?
"Svenne" wrote in message
: > > No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a
corrosive substance in an attack.
: > >
: >
: > As in 10 *months* - knowing the lefty judges we seem to get nowadays? 8)
: Sentences should be in years and double figures without zeros in them.
As a mandatory starting point 11 years would seem reasonable. The sentence could and should move upwards from there depending on other factors.
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2017-12-04 11:04:07 UTC
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"Svenne" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e907f11f-dc12-46f0-97eb-***@googlegroups.com...
: On Sunday, 3 December 2017 23:08:39 UTC+2, BurfordTJustice wrote:
: > So 11 would be ok?
: >
: > "Svenne" wrote in message
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: > : > > No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a
: > corrosive substance in an attack.
: > : > >
: > : >
: > : > As in 10 *months* - knowing the lefty judges we seem to get
nowadays? 8)
: > :
: > : Sentences should be in years and double figures without zeros in them.
:
: As a mandatory starting point 11 years would seem reasonable. The sentence
could and should move upwards from there depending on other factors.
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: On 03/12/2017 11:20, Svenne wrote:
: > On Sunday, 3 December 2017 13:15:13 UTC+2, BurfordTJustice wrote:
: >
: >> Fearful of returning to work, Hussain thinks more still needs to be
done to
: >> make people realise the devastating impact of such a weapon.
: >
: > No mention of mandatory double figure jail sentences for using a
corrosive substance in an attack.
: >
:
: As in 10 *months* - knowing the lefty judges we seem to get nowadays? 8)
:
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2017-12-03 11:46:19 UTC
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Never punish the criminal when it is easy to restrict
the whole Population...
Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force people
carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the same
approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon alone
is criminalised.
Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric acid --
such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office licence
Then some still wonder why the Empire is dead...
It is a pain in the arse. I don't use concentrated acid, caustic soda,
or high concentrate bleaches often but occasionally they are useful.
Quite honestly if someone sprayed supermarket bleach or Viakal or
supermarket drain cleaner in my face they are going to get away with
what ever they are after because I'm going to be running for the nearest
water supply period. In fact if someone sprayed me with water I'd
probably do the same.

So where does it stop. Are we going to ban supermarket bleach.

I favour public evisceration of the offenders. Whatever happened to good
old public executions. Bring back the gibbet! That'll teach em.

I'm kidding of course. They need counseling obviously. <sigh>

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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:15:10 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Never punish the criminal when it is easy to restrict
the whole Population...
Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force people
carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the same
approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon alone
is criminalised.
Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric acid --
such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office licence
Then some still wonder why the Empire is dead...
It is a pain in the arse. I don't use concentrated acid, caustic soda,
or high concentrate bleaches often but occasionally they are useful.
Quite honestly if someone sprayed supermarket bleach or Viakal or
supermarket drain cleaner in my face they are going to get away with
what ever they are after because I'm going to be running for the nearest
water supply period. In fact if someone sprayed me with water I'd
probably do the same.
So where does it stop. Are we going to ban supermarket bleach.
This is what happens in a responsible mature society.

The minority of the brain-dead spoil it for the sensible majority who would
never dream of buying acid or bleach with a view to spraying it in other
peoples’ faces.
Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
I favour public evisceration of the offenders. Whatever happened to good
old public executions. Bring back the gibbet! That'll teach em.
I'm kidding of course. They need counseling obviously.<sigh>
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2017-12-03 12:56:02 UTC
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How do you know the majority would not?

The government seems to think they would thus the penalty for the whole lot.



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: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:15:10 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: > <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: >
: > > Never punish the criminal when it is easy to restrict
: > > the whole Population...
: > >
: > > Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force
people
: > > carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the same
: > > approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon
alone
: > > is criminalised.
: > >
: > > Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric
acid --
: > > such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office licence
: > >
: > > Then some still wonder why the Empire is dead...
: >
: > It is a pain in the arse. I don't use concentrated acid, caustic soda,
: > or high concentrate bleaches often but occasionally they are useful.
: > Quite honestly if someone sprayed supermarket bleach or Viakal or
: > supermarket drain cleaner in my face they are going to get away with
: > what ever they are after because I'm going to be running for the nearest
: > water supply period. In fact if someone sprayed me with water I'd
: > probably do the same.
: >
: > So where does it stop. Are we going to ban supermarket bleach.
:
: This is what happens in a responsible mature society.
:
: The minority of the brain-dead spoil it for the sensible majority who
would
: never dream of buying acid or bleach with a view to spraying it in other
: peoples' faces.
:
: >
: >
: > I favour public evisceration of the offenders. Whatever happened to good
: > old public executions. Bring back the gibbet! That'll teach em.
: >
: > I'm kidding of course. They need counseling obviously.<sigh>
: >
: > Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
:
:
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2017-12-03 13:14:31 UTC
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How do you know the majority would not?
Lethargy. I mean it's always been a dream of mine but I just can't be
arsed yunno to get up buy the stuff, find a spray bottle, read the
safety guidelines, compliance and safe disposal regulations then I need
a moped, tax, insurance... my head hurts. It's tough being a mature
responsible hooligan.

For a minute there I thought you might offer a solution instead of
whinnying about the UK. Not got one? Neither it appears have our
politicians.
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The government seems to think they would thus the penalty for the whole lot.
: > On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:15:10 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >
: > > Never punish the criminal when it is easy to restrict
: > > the whole Population...
: > >
: > > Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force
people
: > > carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the same
: > > approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon
alone
: > > is criminalised.
: > >
: > > Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric
acid --
: > > such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office licence
: > >
: > > Then some still wonder why the Empire is dead...
: >
: > It is a pain in the arse. I don't use concentrated acid, caustic soda,
: > or high concentrate bleaches often but occasionally they are useful.
: > Quite honestly if someone sprayed supermarket bleach or Viakal or
: > supermarket drain cleaner in my face they are going to get away with
: > what ever they are after because I'm going to be running for the nearest
: > water supply period. In fact if someone sprayed me with water I'd
: > probably do the same.
: >
: > So where does it stop. Are we going to ban supermarket bleach.
: This is what happens in a responsible mature society.
: The minority of the brain-dead spoil it for the sensible majority who
would
: never dream of buying acid or bleach with a view to spraying it in other
: peoples' faces.
: >
: >
: > I favour public evisceration of the offenders. Whatever happened to good
: > old public executions. Bring back the gibbet! That'll teach em.
: >
: > I'm kidding of course. They need counseling obviously.<sigh>
: >
: > Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
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2017-12-03 13:30:35 UTC
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:15:10 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
Post by BurfordTJustice
Never punish the criminal when it is easy to restrict
the whole Population...
Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to
force people carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason,
taking the same approach used to tackle knife violence where
possession of the weapon alone is criminalised.
Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric
acid -- such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office
licence
Then some still wonder why the Empire is dead...
It is a pain in the arse. I don't use concentrated acid, caustic
soda, or high concentrate bleaches often but occasionally they are
useful. Quite honestly if someone sprayed supermarket bleach or
Viakal or supermarket drain cleaner in my face they are going to get
away with what ever they are after because I'm going to be running
for the nearest water supply period. In fact if someone sprayed me
with water I'd probably do the same.
So where does it stop. Are we going to ban supermarket bleach.
I favour public evisceration of the offenders. Whatever happened to
good old public executions. Bring back the gibbet! That'll teach em.
I'm kidding of course. They need counseling obviously. <sigh>
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
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2017-12-03 16:51:17 UTC
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Never punish the criminal when it is easy to restrict
the whole Population...
Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force
people carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the
same approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon
alone is criminalised.
Rudd also plans to require people buying high-concentrate sulphuric acid
-- such as drain cleaner -- to apply for a Home Office licence
Then some still wonder why the Empire is dead...
Fear in London as acid attacks soar
London (AFP) - Delivery rider Jabed Hussain was waiting at a traffic light
one night in east London when two attackers sprayed acid in his face and
stole his moped.
It was one of hundreds of attacks in the British capital every year that
have prompted government intervention and left the city's police force
asking the public for help to tackle the crime wave.
Easy the criminal can have acid thrown at them to cause 200%
or greater damage as they themselves caused, or pay 10% of their
earnings for the rest of their lives to the acid victim and relatives
to pay for medical and corrective surgery.
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2017-12-03 17:24:04 UTC
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Never punish the criminal when it is easy to restrict
the whole Population...
Home Secretary Amber Rudd announced new proposals in October to force people
carrying acid to prove they have a legitimate reason, taking the same
approach used to tackle knife violence where possession of the weapon alone
is criminalised.
Scaring people worldwide would only make one a global, public enemy!
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