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Flight MH370 still not found
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burfordTjustice
2017-03-06 10:52:02 UTC
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3 years WTF people.

Flight MH370 flight still not found.

The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,

Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.


Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
The Todal
2017-03-06 11:17:56 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Continuing the search would be far more expensive than continuing the
search for Madeleine McCann, and with no prospect whatsoever of ever
finding a living person at the end of it.

The crash was probably caused by a suicidal pilot. Or by fumes or lack
of oxygen due to a technical problem. It isn't like the Comet disasters
- these things aren't happening regularly with this type of aircraft.
pullgees
2017-03-06 14:32:15 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Continuing the search would be far more expensive than continuing the
search for Madeleine McCann, and with no prospect whatsoever of ever
finding a living person at the end of it.
What a strange incongruous comparison.
Post by The Todal
The crash was probably caused by a suicidal pilot. Or by fumes or lack
of oxygen due to a technical problem. It isn't like the Comet disasters
- these things aren't happening regularly with this type of aircraft.
All contact was lost/deactivated with M370 shortly after it did a 360 heading back to Malaysia. Flying back across Malaysia into the Indian Ocean before turning South down towards Australia. If it was suicide it was a very long suicide, about eight hours, before it ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea. Why not just ditch in the China sea on its original course?
In order to make those two crucial course changes somebody would need to have been at the controls.
Malaysia military saw it crossing back ovev Malay yet Air Force jets were not scrambled to investigate - it could have been another 9/11 in Kuala Lumper for all they knew.
It's quite baffling and the relatives understandably want to know what happened.
The Todal
2017-03-06 15:23:45 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Continuing the search would be far more expensive than continuing the
search for Madeleine McCann, and with no prospect whatsoever of ever
finding a living person at the end of it.
What a strange incongruous comparison.
I'm surprised you find it so.

When many millions of pounds have been spent looking for a needle in a
haystack it is legitimate to cut your losses and stop looking. Madeleine
is a more deserving cause, of course, because she might be held by a
predatory paedophile or might have been murdered by someone who could
offend again.

There have been lots of aircraft over the decades that have gone missing
and have never been found. Or have crashed for reasons that remain
unexplained. Is it worth spending hundreds of millions of dollars to
establish whether it was instrument failure or pilot error?
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Post by The Todal
The crash was probably caused by a suicidal pilot. Or by fumes or lack
of oxygen due to a technical problem. It isn't like the Comet disasters
- these things aren't happening regularly with this type of aircraft.
All contact was lost/deactivated with M370 shortly after it did a 360 heading back to Malaysia. Flying back across Malaysia into the Indian Ocean before turning South down towards Australia. If it was suicide it was a very long suicide, about eight hours, before it ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea. Why not just ditch in the China sea on its original course?
In order to make those two crucial course changes somebody would need to have been at the controls.
Malaysia military saw it crossing back ovev Malay yet Air Force jets were not scrambled to investigate - it could have been another 9/11 in Kuala Lumper for all they knew.
It's quite baffling and the relatives understandably want to know what happened.
It's like watching a whodunnit on the telly and really wanting to know
how it ends. Unfortunately there is unlikely to be a solution to this
particular mystery. The relatives clung for a while to the hope that the
pilot had landed the plane safely and the aircraft might be found in a
jungle clearing or in the desert. If that's what happened, the
passengers and crew will long ago have died. The Amelia Earhart flight
in 1937 would then be a valid comparison. Landing on a desert island and
waiting in vain to be rescued.
burfordTjustice
2017-03-06 17:04:04 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search
operation in January.
Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to
fund an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters
reports. They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur,
Malaysia.
Continuing the search would be far more expensive than continuing
the search for Madeleine McCann, and with no prospect whatsoever
of ever finding a living person at the end of it.
What a strange incongruous comparison.
I'm surprised you find it so.
When many millions of pounds have been spent looking for a needle in
a haystack it is legitimate to cut your losses and stop looking.
Madeleine is a more deserving cause, of course, because she might be
held by a predatory paedophile or might have been murdered by someone
who could offend again.
There have been lots of aircraft over the decades that have gone
missing and have never been found. Or have crashed for reasons that
remain unexplained. Is it worth spending hundreds of millions of
dollars to establish whether it was instrument failure or pilot error?
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Post by The Todal
The crash was probably caused by a suicidal pilot. Or by fumes or
lack of oxygen due to a technical problem. It isn't like the Comet
disasters
- these things aren't happening regularly with this type of
aircraft.
All contact was lost/deactivated with M370 shortly after it did a
360 heading back to Malaysia. Flying back across Malaysia into the
Indian Ocean before turning South down towards Australia. If it was
suicide it was a very long suicide, about eight hours, before it
ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea. Why not just ditch in the
China sea on its original course? In order to make those two
crucial course changes somebody would need to have been at the
controls. Malaysia military saw it crossing back ovev Malay yet Air
Force jets were not scrambled to investigate - it could have been
another 9/11 in Kuala Lumper for all they knew. It's quite baffling
and the relatives understandably want to know what happened.
It's like watching a whodunnit on the telly and really wanting to
know how it ends. Unfortunately there is unlikely to be a solution to
this particular mystery. The relatives clung for a while to the hope
that the pilot had landed the plane safely and the aircraft might be
found in a jungle clearing or in the desert. If that's what happened,
the passengers and crew will long ago have died. The Amelia Earhart
flight in 1937 would then be a valid comparison. Landing on a desert
island and waiting in vain to be rescued.
yet all knowing Todal ***@icloud.com can not find either..
pullgees
2017-03-06 18:42:27 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Continuing the search would be far more expensive than continuing the
search for Madeleine McCann, and with no prospect whatsoever of ever
finding a living person at the end of it.
What a strange incongruous comparison.
I'm surprised you find it so.
When many millions of pounds have been spent looking for a needle in a
haystack it is legitimate to cut your losses and stop looking. Madeleine
is a more deserving cause, of course, because she might be held by a
predatory paedophile or might have been murdered by someone who could
offend again.
There have been lots of aircraft over the decades that have gone missing
and have never been found. Or have crashed for reasons that remain
unexplained. Is it worth spending hundreds of millions of dollars to
establish whether it was instrument failure or pilot error?
Post by pullgees
Post by The Todal
The crash was probably caused by a suicidal pilot. Or by fumes or lack
of oxygen due to a technical problem. It isn't like the Comet disasters
- these things aren't happening regularly with this type of aircraft.
All contact was lost/deactivated with M370 shortly after it did a 360 heading back to Malaysia. Flying back across Malaysia into the Indian Ocean before turning South down towards Australia. If it was suicide it was a very long suicide, about eight hours, before it ran out of fuel and crashed into the sea. Why not just ditch in the China sea on its original course?
In order to make those two crucial course changes somebody would need to have been at the controls.
Malaysia military saw it crossing back ovev Malay yet Air Force jets were not scrambled to investigate - it could have been another 9/11 in Kuala Lumper for all they knew.
It's quite baffling and the relatives understandably want to know what happened.
It's like watching a whodunnit on the telly and really wanting to know
how it ends. Unfortunately there is unlikely to be a solution to this
particular mystery. The relatives clung for a while to the hope that the
pilot had landed the plane safely and the aircraft might be found in a
jungle clearing or in the desert. If that's what happened, the
passengers and crew will long ago have died. The Amelia Earhart flight
in 1937 would then be a valid comparison. Landing on a desert island and
waiting in vain to be rescued.
Still a ridiculous comparison when the only similarity is that a lot of money is involved. Just because you file it all under "missing" in your brain does not is actuality make it remotely similar in the real world.
If the relatives of the passengers want to to set up a search fund, that's up to them and good luck. Every air crash is important to the aviation industry even if it's only one of a kind, to prevent a repeat.
The Todal
2017-03-06 19:10:07 UTC
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It's like watching a whodunnit on the telly and really wanting to know
how it ends. Unfortunately there is unlikely to be a solution to this
particular mystery. The relatives clung for a while to the hope that the
pilot had landed the plane safely and the aircraft might be found in a
jungle clearing or in the desert. If that's what happened, the
passengers and crew will long ago have died. The Amelia Earhart flight
in 1937 would then be a valid comparison. Landing on a desert island and
waiting in vain to be rescued.
Still a ridiculous comparison when the only similarity is that a lot of money is involved. Just because you file it all under "missing" in your brain does not is actuality make it remotely similar in the real world.
If the relatives of the passengers want to to set up a search fund, that's up to them and good luck. Every air crash is important to the aviation industry even if it's only one of a kind, to prevent a repeat.
If the relatives want to set up a search fund they are likely to be prey
to lots of con-men. As indeed were the McCanns - they paid money to
private detectives who assured them that the case could be solved
quickly. The money was spent, no results were obtained.
Tom G
2017-03-06 19:57:20 UTC
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If the relatives want to set up a search fund they are likely to be prey
to lots of con-men. As indeed were the McCanns - they paid money to
private detectives who assured them that the case could be solved
quickly. The money was spent, no results were obtained.
You forgot the mortgage payments the McScams paid with some of the money
and the 5 star hotel rooms they stayed in.
pullgees
2017-03-06 21:48:00 UTC
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It's like watching a whodunnit on the telly and really wanting to know
how it ends. Unfortunately there is unlikely to be a solution to this
particular mystery. The relatives clung for a while to the hope that the
pilot had landed the plane safely and the aircraft might be found in a
jungle clearing or in the desert. If that's what happened, the
passengers and crew will long ago have died. The Amelia Earhart flight
in 1937 would then be a valid comparison. Landing on a desert island and
waiting in vain to be rescued.
Still a ridiculous comparison when the only similarity is that a lot of money is involved. Just because you file it all under "missing" in your brain does not is actuality make it remotely similar in the real world.
If the relatives of the passengers want to to set up a search fund, that's up to them and good luck. Every air crash is important to the aviation industry even if it's only one of a kind, to prevent a repeat.
If the relatives want to set up a search fund they are likely to be prey
to lots of con-men. As indeed were the McCanns - they paid money to
private detectives who assured them that the case could be solved
quickly. The money was spent, no results were obtained.
Stock in trade for detective agencies and they are not all con artists by any means.
So the McCanns failed therefore why bother? You must be a real loser.
The Todal
2017-03-06 22:21:55 UTC
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It's like watching a whodunnit on the telly and really wanting to know
how it ends. Unfortunately there is unlikely to be a solution to this
particular mystery. The relatives clung for a while to the hope that the
pilot had landed the plane safely and the aircraft might be found in a
jungle clearing or in the desert. If that's what happened, the
passengers and crew will long ago have died. The Amelia Earhart flight
in 1937 would then be a valid comparison. Landing on a desert island and
waiting in vain to be rescued.
Still a ridiculous comparison when the only similarity is that a lot of money is involved. Just because you file it all under "missing" in your brain does not is actuality make it remotely similar in the real world.
If the relatives of the passengers want to to set up a search fund, that's up to them and good luck. Every air crash is important to the aviation industry even if it's only one of a kind, to prevent a repeat.
If the relatives want to set up a search fund they are likely to be prey
to lots of con-men. As indeed were the McCanns - they paid money to
private detectives who assured them that the case could be solved
quickly. The money was spent, no results were obtained.
Stock in trade for detective agencies and they are not all con artists by any means.
So the McCanns failed therefore why bother? You must be a real loser.
Sometimes you seem very keen to dress up as a total imbecile and flaunt
yourself in public.
pullgees
2017-03-06 23:12:29 UTC
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It's like watching a whodunnit on the telly and really wanting to know
how it ends. Unfortunately there is unlikely to be a solution to this
particular mystery. The relatives clung for a while to the hope that the
pilot had landed the plane safely and the aircraft might be found in a
jungle clearing or in the desert. If that's what happened, the
passengers and crew will long ago have died. The Amelia Earhart flight
in 1937 would then be a valid comparison. Landing on a desert island and
waiting in vain to be rescued.
Still a ridiculous comparison when the only similarity is that a lot of money is involved. Just because you file it all under "missing" in your brain does not is actuality make it remotely similar in the real world.
If the relatives of the passengers want to to set up a search fund, that's up to them and good luck. Every air crash is important to the aviation industry even if it's only one of a kind, to prevent a repeat.
If the relatives want to set up a search fund they are likely to be prey
to lots of con-men. As indeed were the McCanns - they paid money to
private detectives who assured them that the case could be solved
quickly. The money was spent, no results were obtained.
Stock in trade for detective agencies and they are not all con artists by any means.
So the McCanns failed therefore why bother? You must be a real loser.
Sometimes you seem very keen to dress up as a total imbecile and flaunt
yourself in public.
I see you can't find any more idiotic things to say about the search for M370 then.
Caecilius
2017-03-06 18:51:56 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
Continuing the search would be far more expensive than continuing the
search for Madeleine McCann, and with no prospect whatsoever of ever
finding a living person at the end of it.
I understand you can't search every square inch of the ocean floor
where it could have ended up based on the amount of fuel available. I
suspect such a brute-force search would be unlikely to give a result
in a reasonable timescale anyway, even if the countries concerned
could afford to finance them.

But I don't think that means everyone should just give up. My
understanding is that this is the only time that an airliner has been
lost like this, and just letting it fade away would be wrong.
Post by The Todal
The crash was probably caused by a suicidal pilot. Or by fumes or lack
of oxygen due to a technical problem. It isn't like the Comet disasters
- these things aren't happening regularly with this type of aircraft.
We just don't know. That's a big problem. Another big problem is
there are a few unexplained things that raise questions: perhaps they
are conspiracy theories, but why would an airliner that deviated from
its flight plan not be investigated immediately? It flew back over
the Malaysian penisula and was seen on military radar near Penang; it
didn't change course in mid ocean and stay outside radar coverage.

It could have been heading for the KLCC twin towers on a 9-11 type
mission for all anyone knew. Why wasn't it intercepted?

The only firm evidence so far seems to have come from individuals who
have either stumbled across pieces of wreckage, or who have gone on
self-funded missions.
Ed Pawlowski
2017-03-06 23:08:45 UTC
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The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
I understand you can't search every square inch of the ocean floor
where it could have ended up based on the amount of fuel available. I
suspect such a brute-force search would be unlikely to give a result
in a reasonable timescale anyway, even if the countries concerned
could afford to finance them.
But I don't think that means everyone should just give up. My
understanding is that this is the only time that an airliner has been
lost like this, and just letting it fade away would be wrong.
I'm sure the families would like closure, but how long can you go? It
may be laying next to Amelia Earhart's plane and can cost billions of
dollars and decades and not be found..
Basil Jet
2017-03-07 00:22:12 UTC
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But I don't think that means everyone should just give up. My
understanding is that this is the only time that an airliner has been
lost like this, and just letting it fade away would be wrong.
The majority of a plane was buried by a glacier and emerged 60 years
later, although a part of the tail fin was discovered shortly after the
crash.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Mount_Gannett_C-124_crash
Jeff
2017-03-07 09:12:40 UTC
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But I don't think that means everyone should just give up. My
understanding is that this is the only time that an airliner has been
lost like this, and just letting it fade away would be wrong.
The majority of a plane was buried by a glacier and emerged 60 years
later, although a part of the tail fin was discovered shortly after the
crash.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Mount_Gannett_C-124_crash
And of course there was the BSAA Avro Lancastrian 'Star Dust' that
crashed in 1947 and was not discovered until 1998 in the mountains near
Santiago.

Jeff

Altroy1
2017-03-06 22:17:13 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
It seems from the debris found washed up that MH370 made or attempted to
make a controlled landing. There is this theory that the Pilot realising
that the plane's exterior was compromised by fire, turned the plane away
from populated areas before the oxygen ran out. This theory doesnt
explain well why the plane made a number of turns.

It still appears that the plane was deliberately turned southwards and
in the final moments could have been steered off course from the band
indicated from the satellite pings and into the sea at some distance.

I wish the relatives well and hope the plane can one day be found. It
took two years to find the flight that crashed into the Atlantic off
Brazil in a less remote area so it could be premature to give up the
search at this stage.
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Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
pullgees
2017-03-06 23:51:20 UTC
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3 years WTF people.
Flight MH370 flight still not found.
The Boeing 777 with 239 people on board vanished on March 8, 2014,
Australia, Malaysia and China jointly called off the search operation
in January.
It seems from the debris found washed up that MH370 made or attempted to
make a controlled landing. There is this theory that the Pilot realising
that the plane's exterior was compromised by fire, turned the plane away
from populated areas before the oxygen ran out. This theory doesnt
explain well why the plane made a number of turns.
It still appears that the plane was deliberately turned southwards and
in the final moments could have been steered off course from the band
indicated from the satellite pings and into the sea at some distance.
I wish the relatives well and hope the plane can one day be found. It
took two years to find the flight that crashed into the Atlantic off
Brazil in a less remote area so it could be premature to give up the
search at this stage.
Post by burfordTjustice
Gomes and other family members are hoping to raise $15 million to fund
an initial search north of the previous search area, Reuters reports.
They announced the fundraising campaign in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
A controlled ditching was an earlier theory but since then a more recent theory is that it was not controlled.
http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/mh370-report-suggests-flight-was-not-preparing-for-landing/ar-AAjIKtn
Yet the lack of debris found suggests that the fuselage did not disintegrate on impact, which could only happen with a slow approach.
Nothing adds up.
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