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Misplayed Brexit hands #1: German industry
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pamela
2018-07-08 09:49:28 UTC
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Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.

Whatever happened to that? :)
Fredxx
2018-07-08 09:53:36 UTC
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Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.

A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.

Have you ever contributed anything of substance to this group in a legal
matter?
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 14:19:44 UTC
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"Fredxx" <***@nospam.com> wrote in message news:phsmv1$qpt$***@dont-email.me...
: On 08/07/2018 10:49, pamela wrote:
: > Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
: > particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
: > well better give us a good Brexit deal.
: >
: > Whatever happened to that? :)
:
: Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
:
: A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
: exercise in the hope of a changed result.
:
: Have you ever contributed anything of substance to this group in a legal
: matter?
:
R. Mark Clayton
2018-07-08 14:50:09 UTC
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Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
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Have you ever contributed anything of substance to this group in a legal
matter?
Yellow
2018-07-08 15:37:01 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
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Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
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Have you ever contributed anything of substance to this group in a legal
matter?
R. Mark Clayton
2018-07-08 16:08:21 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
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Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?

I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 17:12:49 UTC
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So if the UK ever leaves the EU you will be moving to the main land?

Where to?




"R. Mark Clayton" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:2e0e23dc-1315-46d0-badc-***@googlegroups.com...
: On Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:37:02 UTC+1, Yellow wrote:
: > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
: > <***@gmail.com> posted:
: > >
: > > On Sunday, 8 July 2018 10:53:38 UTC+1, Fredxx wrote:
: > > > On 08/07/2018 10:49, pamela wrote:
: > > > > Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
: > > > > particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel
jolly
: > > > > well better give us a good Brexit deal.
: > > > >
: > > > > Whatever happened to that? :)
: > > >
: > > > Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan
trait.
: > > >
: > > > A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat
the
: > > > exercise in the hope of a changed result.
: > >
: > > Funny I voted in two.
: >
: > You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
:
: In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and
in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
:
: I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
:
:
Yellow
2018-07-08 17:15:55 UTC
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Post by Yellow
On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
pensive hamster
2018-07-08 17:22:51 UTC
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Post by R. Mark Clayton
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Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
MM
2018-07-09 07:48:21 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:22:51 -0700 (PDT), pensive hamster
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Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
Yeah, it's crystal clear, yet Yellow, a staunch Brexiter, prefers to
twist his words to mean the exact opposite. I wonder how she ever
manages to negotiate a business contract with such perfidy lukring?

MM
Yellow
2018-07-09 14:52:10 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
Bad phrasing, I agree, so I will try again.

"So you really do think you have voted twice in a referendum to decide
if the UK should leave the EU? LOL! What an idiot you are."

Better? :-)
pensive hamster
2018-07-09 15:57:11 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
Bad phrasing, I agree, so I will try again.
"So you really do think you have voted twice in a referendum to decide
if the UK should leave the EU? LOL! What an idiot you are."
Better? :-)
Not really. I feel a bit like a weary schoolteacher trying to
be patient with a difficult child, but Mark said "In 1975 I
voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated
and in 2016 I voted to remain in".

Your precis of what he said is not very accurate, plus it is
unclear why you think he is an idiot.
Yellow
2018-07-09 16:15:51 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by pensive hamster
Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
Bad phrasing, I agree, so I will try again.
"So you really do think you have voted twice in a referendum to decide
if the UK should leave the EU? LOL! What an idiot you are."
Better? :-)
Not really. I feel a bit like a weary schoolteacher trying to
be patient with a difficult child,
It was you who stuck your nose in and that is because you do like to
argue. Slightest chink and you are a ferret up a drain pipe.

Shame you are not so keen on starting and continuing discussions as you
are at picking away at other people's contributions - which of course is
why I do not usually waste my time with you. :-p
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but Mark said "In 1975 I
voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated
and in 2016 I voted to remain in".
I replied to the previous post and that is what my comment also relates
to but of course, you are not interested in that as you simply want to
argue.

I should not have replied to you - more fool me.
pensive hamster
2018-07-09 16:58:07 UTC
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Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
Bad phrasing, I agree, so I will try again.
"So you really do think you have voted twice in a referendum to decide
if the UK should leave the EU? LOL! What an idiot you are."
Better? :-)
Not really. I feel a bit like a weary schoolteacher trying to
be patient with a difficult child,
It was you who stuck your nose in and that is because you do like to
argue. Slightest chink and you are a ferret up a drain pipe.
Shame you are not so keen on starting and continuing discussions as you
are at picking away at other people's contributions - which of course is
why I do not usually waste my time with you. :-p
Post by pensive hamster
but Mark said "In 1975 I
voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated
and in 2016 I voted to remain in".
I replied to the previous post and that is what my comment also relates
to but of course, you are not interested in that as you simply want to
argue.
I was simply trying to point out that you sometimes try and twist
other people's words, to try and make their words appear
ridiculous, so you can then say "LOL! What an idiot you are."

That is an irritating if occasional habit of yours.
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I should not have replied to you - more fool me.
pamela
2018-07-10 13:59:56 UTC
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Post by BurfordTJustice
On Sunday, 8 July 2018 10:53:38 UTC+1, Fredxx
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how
German industry, particularly cars, is so
dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken
record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this
no need to repeat the exercise in the hope of a
changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson
had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best
of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your
memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the
EU? LOL! What an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
Bad phrasing, I agree, so I will try again.
"So you really do think you have voted twice in a referendum
to decide if the UK should leave the EU? LOL! What an idiot
you are."
Better? :-)
Not really. I feel a bit like a weary schoolteacher trying to
be patient with a difficult child,
It was you who stuck your nose in and that is because you do like
to argue. Slightest chink and you are a ferret up a drain pipe.
Shame you are not so keen on starting and continuing discussions
as you are at picking away at other people's contributions -
which of course is why I do not usually waste my time with you.
:-p
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but Mark said "In 1975 I
voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated
and in 2016 I voted to remain in".
I replied to the previous post and that is what my comment also
relates to but of course, you are not interested in that as you
simply want to argue.
I was simply trying to point out that you sometimes try and twist
other people's words, to try and make their words appear
ridiculous, so you can then say "LOL! What an idiot you are."
Yellow does that all too often. It's childish and doesn't advance
the discussion. Sigh.
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That is an irritating if occasional habit of yours.
pamela
2018-07-09 16:52:40 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Yellow
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how
German industry, particularly cars, is so dependent
on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken
record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no
need to repeat the exercise in the hope of a changed
result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had
negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three
as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your
memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU?
LOL! What an idiot you are.
I think he's saying he voted twice to stay in the EU
Bad phrasing, I agree, so I will try again.
"So you really do think you have voted twice in a referendum to
decide if the UK should leave the EU? LOL! What an idiot you
are."
Better? :-)
Not really. I feel a bit like a weary schoolteacher trying to
be patient with a difficult child, but Mark said "In 1975 I
voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated
and in 2016 I voted to remain in".
Your precis of what he said is not very accurate, plus it is
unclear why you think he is an idiot.
Most of us have seen Yellow put words in someone's mouth and then
argue against what they allegedly said!

I don't know why he does it but it gets tiresome.
Norman Wells
2018-07-09 16:59:03 UTC
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Most of us have seen Yellow put words in someone's mouth and then
argue against what they allegedly said!
I don't know why he does it but it gets tiresome.
You think she's a he? Does it take one to know one?
Yellow
2018-07-09 17:21:54 UTC
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Most of us have seen Yellow put words in someone's mouth and then
argue against what they allegedly said!
I don't know why he does it but it gets tiresome.
You think she's a he? Does it take one to know one?
Pamela is quite clearly male and got quite upset when called out. :-)
Norman Wells
2018-07-09 18:16:35 UTC
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Most of us have seen Yellow put words in someone's mouth and then
argue against what they allegedly said!
I don't know why he does it but it gets tiresome.
You think she's a he? Does it take one to know one?
Pamela is quite clearly male and got quite upset when called out. :-)
Why does he like masquerading as a girly then?
Yellow
2018-07-09 18:18:13 UTC
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Most of us have seen Yellow put words in someone's mouth and then
argue against what they allegedly said!
I don't know why he does it but it gets tiresome.
You think she's a he? Does it take one to know one?
Pamela is quite clearly male and got quite upset when called out. :-)
Why does he like masquerading as a girly then?
Not a question I can answer.
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 20:05:43 UTC
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LOL you are the idiot my yellow boi, he voted to stay in.



"Yellow" <***@none.com.invalid> wrote in message news:***@News.Individual.NET...
: On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
: <***@gmail.com> posted:
: >
: > On Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:37:02 UTC+1, Yellow wrote:
: > > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
: > > <***@gmail.com> posted:
: > > >
: > > > On Sunday, 8 July 2018 10:53:38 UTC+1, Fredxx wrote:
: > > > > On 08/07/2018 10:49, pamela wrote:
: > > > > > Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
: > > > > > particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that
Merkel jolly
: > > > > > well better give us a good Brexit deal.
: > > > > >
: > > > > > Whatever happened to that? :)
: > > > >
: > > > > Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a
Remoan trait.
: > > > >
: > > > > A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat
the
: > > > > exercise in the hope of a changed result.
: > > >
: > > > Funny I voted in two.
: > >
: > > You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
: >
: > In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and
in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
: >
: > I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
:
: So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
: an idiot you are.
MM
2018-07-09 07:46:29 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 07:50:09 -0700 (PDT), R. Mark Clayton
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to repeat the
exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
In 1975 I voted to stay in on the new terms PM Wilson had negotiated and in 2016 I voted to remain in. Best of three as a decider?
I assumed you were old and curmudgeonly or perhaps your memory is going?
So you really do think you have voted twice to leave the EU? LOL! What
an idiot you are.
You're the idot! He explicitly stated that in both referendums he
voted to REMAIN.

MM
pamela
2018-07-09 16:53:44 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German
industry, particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the
UK that Merkel jolly well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
Repeatedly saying the same thing as per a broken record is a Remoan trait.
A bit like a once in a lifetime referendum, this no need to
repeat the exercise in the hope of a changed result.
Funny I voted in two.
You have voted twice on leaving the EU? How so?
Try to stop putting words into Mark's mouth. It gets tiring to watch.
kat
2018-07-08 11:52:05 UTC
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Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
I read it only the other day, in some comment column or other. An aside to
comment about EU/US trade wars I think. It is a fact that doesn't go away.
--
kat
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^..^<
pamela
2018-07-08 12:20:58 UTC
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Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel
jolly well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
I read it only the other day, in some comment column or other.
An aside to comment about EU/US trade wars I think. It is a fact
that doesn't go away.
It was a delusion that this gave us so much leverage that it assured a
settlement strongly in our favour. Ha ha.

Many mistakenly thought the EU (specifically Germany) needed us more
than we needed them. Now how crazy is that? Very crazy. Yet
Brexiteers deluded themselves about it.
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 14:20:19 UTC
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"pamela" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message news:***@81.171.118.178...
: On 12:52 8 Jul 2018, kat wrote:
:
: > On 08/07/2018 10:49, pamela wrote:
: >> Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
: >> particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel
: >> jolly well better give us a good Brexit deal.
: >>
: >> Whatever happened to that? :)
: >>
: >
: > I read it only the other day, in some comment column or other.
: > An aside to comment about EU/US trade wars I think. It is a fact
: > that doesn't go away.
:
: It was a delusion that this gave us so much leverage that it assured a
: settlement strongly in our favour. Ha ha.
:
: Many mistakenly thought the EU (specifically Germany) needed us more
: than we needed them. Now how crazy is that? Very crazy. Yet
: Brexiteers deluded themselves about it.
Fredxx
2018-07-08 18:30:30 UTC
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Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel
jolly well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
I read it only the other day, in some comment column or other.
An aside to comment about EU/US trade wars I think. It is a fact
that doesn't go away.
It was a delusion that this gave us so much leverage that it assured a
settlement strongly in our favour. Ha ha.
It's sad you were taken in by any delusion. Most Brexiters are smarter
than to be taken in by Project Fear.
Post by pamela
Many mistakenly thought the EU (specifically Germany) needed us more
than we needed them. Now how crazy is that? Very crazy. Yet
Brexiteers deluded themselves about it.
It is crazy, but only a Remoaner will think that is why we voted brexit.

Of course German business realise a no deal will hurt them too:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/944383/Brexit-news-BMW-manufacture-trade-UK-Germany-deal-EU-latest-Angela-Merkel-update-video
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 20:05:57 UTC
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"Fredxx" <***@nospam.com> wrote in message news:phtl87$g5j$***@dont-email.me...
: On 08/07/2018 13:20, pamela wrote:
: > On 12:52 8 Jul 2018, kat wrote:
: >
: >> On 08/07/2018 10:49, pamela wrote:
: >>> Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
: >>> particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel
: >>> jolly well better give us a good Brexit deal.
: >>>
: >>> Whatever happened to that? :)
: >>>
: >>
: >> I read it only the other day, in some comment column or other.
: >> An aside to comment about EU/US trade wars I think. It is a fact
: >> that doesn't go away.
: >
: > It was a delusion that this gave us so much leverage that it assured a
: > settlement strongly in our favour. Ha ha.
:
: It's sad you were taken in by any delusion. Most Brexiters are smarter
: than to be taken in by Project Fear.
:
: > Many mistakenly thought the EU (specifically Germany) needed us more
: > than we needed them. Now how crazy is that? Very crazy. Yet
: > Brexiteers deluded themselves about it.
:
: It is crazy, but only a Remoaner will think that is why we voted brexit.
:
: Of course German business realise a no deal will hurt them too:
:
:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/944383/Brexit-news-BMW-manufacture-trade-UK-Germany-deal-EU-latest-Angela-Merkel-update-video
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 14:20:07 UTC
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"kat" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
: On 08/07/2018 10:49, pamela wrote:
: > Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
: > particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
: > well better give us a good Brexit deal.
: >
: > Whatever happened to that? :)
: >
:
:
: I read it only the other day, in some comment column or other. An aside
to
: comment about EU/US trade wars I think. It is a fact that doesn't go
away.
:
: --
: kat
: >^..^<
R. Mark Clayton
2018-07-08 14:56:12 UTC
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Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
In a hard Brexit tariffs would mean BMW, Audi and Mercedes would lose sales to the UK, but would replace these with more sales within the EU lost by Jaguar etc. by the same coin. Both lose of course, but the Brits far more proportionately as the Germans lose sales to one country with 60M people, whereas the Brits loses sales to 28 countries with >500M people.

The Germans would also reduce investment in car plants in the UK (e.g. Mini) or even move production into the EU.
pamela
2018-07-08 16:35:12 UTC
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Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
In a hard Brexit tariffs would mean BMW, Audi and Mercedes would
lose sales to the UK, but would replace these with more sales
within the EU lost by Jaguar etc. by the same coin. Both lose of
course, but the Brits far more proportionately as the Germans lose
sales to one country with 60M people, whereas the Brits loses
sales to 28 countries with >500M people.
The Germans would also reduce investment in car plants in the UK
(e.g. Mini) or even move production into the EU.
The real issue is that Brexiteers repeatedly failed to predict that the
EU27 were willing to absorb whatever it took in order to show no
country is better off outside the EU than in it.

Brexiteers thought they had those pesky EU27 nailed. When Brexiteers
opened their eyes, they saw they had been nailed. Wakey wakey!
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 17:14:05 UTC
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So you reckon the UK can not stand on its own?

That helps explain why the Empire is dead.
Post by pamela
Why don't we still hear from people about how German industry,
particularly cars, is so dependent on sales to the UK that Merkel jolly
well better give us a good Brexit deal.
Whatever happened to that? :)
In a hard Brexit tariffs would mean BMW, Audi and Mercedes would lose sales
to the UK, but would replace these with more sales within the EU lost by
Jaguar etc. by the same coin. Both lose of course, but the Brits far more
proportionately as the Germans lose sales to one country with 60M people,
whereas the Brits loses sales to 28 countries with >500M people.

The Germans would also reduce investment in car plants in the UK (e.g. Mini)
or even move production into the EU.
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