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Man jailed for typical political views
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Handsome Jack
2018-01-10 18:05:37 UTC
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston

"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events

A self-proclaimed Nazi who claimed Britain took the wrong side in the
second world war has been convicted of stirring racial hatred against
Jewish people.

A jury at Preston crown court unanimously found that the 22-year-old man
from Lancashire, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had breached the
Public Order Act 1986 by using “threatening, abusive or insulting
words or behaviour” intended to stir up racial hatred.

The man committed the offences in two speeches, the first in March 2016
at a demonstration by a group called North West Infidels in Blackpool
and the second at a meeting of the Yorkshire forum for nationalists,
attended by people from various far-right groups.

The jury was played a recording of the Blackpool demonstration in which
the defendant could be heard describing Jewish people as “parasites”
and arguing that Britain should have joined the Nazis to fight the
communists in the second world war.

The man added: “Yes, I am a national socialist, I’m not scared of
that label. You can call me Nazi. You can call me fascist. That is what
I am.”

In the second speech the defendant said he thought Hitler had shown too
much mercy towards Jewish people.

Matthew Brook, prosecuting said the man had been using the speech to
explain his support for the now banned group National Action, and was
“in effect recruiting for them”.

Brook told the court: “He was clearly saying in both speeches that the
Jewish race should be killed … He is making both of those speeches to
recruit members to his cause and to encourage people who already agree
with his racist views to stand firm.”

Giving evidence, the defendant confirmed he was a Nazi but said that did
not mean he hated all Jews. He denied intending to stir racial hatred
and instead said he was trying to provoke lively debate and to shift
people’s views further to the right.

After the verdict, the anti-racism organisation Hope Not Hate said it
was pleased to have provided “the impetus and evidence” for the
man’s prosecution."
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jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2018-01-10 20:37:09 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
A self-proclaimed Nazi who claimed Britain took the wrong side in the
second world war has been convicted of stirring racial hatred against
Jewish people.
How very strange that the moment any 'anti-semitism'®™ surfaces, the
jew bastards suddenly decide that they ARE a separate race subject to
'racism'!

LOLOK

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Nazi........." and even *that* he aped from some other imbecile. His
other attempts at posting in usenet usually consist of one line or
even one word drivel."
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2018-01-10 20:56:50 UTC
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"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
A self-proclaimed Nazi who claimed Britain took the wrong side in the
second world war has been convicted of stirring racial hatred against
Jewish people.
How very strange that the moment any 'anti-semitism'®™ surfaces, the
jew bastards suddenly decide that they ARE a separate race subject to
'racism'!
Tough times ahead for poor, mentally handicapped, racist cunts like you, eh,
dumb anal Razovic? LOL
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LOLOK
"LOLOK"??? Is that the sound you make when you choke on dick, cocksucking
Razovic?
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Vidcapper
2018-01-11 07:14:22 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
Surely he would just be 'preaching to the converted' at such events?
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GB
2018-01-11 12:23:28 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
Surely he would just be 'preaching to the converted' at such events?
He was inciting murder. The risk is that he struck a chord with one of
the 'converted' who actually decides to have a go.

'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'

Thomas Mair presumably attended a few rallies like this before murdering
a defenceless Jo Cox in cold blood.
Incubus
2018-01-11 16:15:28 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
Surely he would just be 'preaching to the converted' at such events?
He was inciting murder. The risk is that he struck a chord with one of
the 'converted' who actually decides to have a go.
'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'
Thomas Mair presumably attended a few rallies like this before murdering
a defenceless Jo Cox in cold blood.
What do you think of this case?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5254707/Blogger-sings-dock-anti-Semitic-songs-played.html

Personally, I don't see the point of prosecuting someone for uploading
songs that are considered disagreeable.
GB
2018-01-12 10:18:26 UTC
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Post by Incubus
What do you think of this case?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5254707/Blogger-sings-dock-anti-Semitic-songs-played.html
Personally, I don't see the point of prosecuting someone for uploading
songs that are considered disagreeable.
Extraordinary. I find the whole holocaust denial fantasy really perplexing.

I was at the funeral, on Tuesday, of an old family friend from what is
now Slovakia. In 1939, her mother and the three children were invited to
play by the local government official, whom they were friendly with. He
was of German extraction and he informed them that the German army would
be arriving that evening, and they had to leave there and then. They
went, with nothing but the clothes they were wearing. The husband/father
was at work, and they never saw him again. Clearly, for him at least,
Auschwitz was not a 'theme park just for fools'. It was where he was
murdered and this lovely lady lost her father.

Clearly, being even intensely disagreeable is different from inciting
murder, however.

Everybody, ought to be able to walk down the street without suffering
racial taunts, but this stupid woman writing a blog is a bit different
as it's voluntary whether you read it or not.
Incubus
2018-01-12 12:50:42 UTC
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Post by Incubus
What do you think of this case?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5254707/Blogger-sings-dock-anti-Semitic-songs-played.html
Personally, I don't see the point of prosecuting someone for uploading
songs that are considered disagreeable.
Extraordinary. I find the whole holocaust denial fantasy really perplexing.
It certainly doesn't stand up to examination of the facts. The
motivation seems to be either that people identify with some aspects of
National Socialism and don't want to believe that it was as bad as all
that or they are convinced that it's a Jewish conspiracy because they
don't like Jews.
Post by GB
I was at the funeral, on Tuesday, of an old family friend from what is
now Slovakia. In 1939, her mother and the three children were invited to
play by the local government official, whom they were friendly with. He
was of German extraction and he informed them that the German army would
be arriving that evening, and they had to leave there and then. They
went, with nothing but the clothes they were wearing. The husband/father
was at work, and they never saw him again. Clearly, for him at least,
Auschwitz was not a 'theme park just for fools'. It was where he was
murdered and this lovely lady lost her father.
Clearly, being even intensely disagreeable is different from inciting
murder, however.
Everybody, ought to be able to walk down the street without suffering
racial taunts, but this stupid woman writing a blog is a bit different
as it's voluntary whether you read it or not.
GB
2018-01-12 18:45:31 UTC
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Extraordinary. I find the whole holocaust denial fantasy really perplexing.
It certainly doesn't stand up to examination of the facts.  The
motivation seems to be either that people identify with some aspects of
National Socialism and don't want to believe that it was as bad as all
that or they are convinced that it's a Jewish conspiracy because they
don't like Jews.
The Nazis murdered Gypsies, Communists, and the disabled. Not to mention
troublesome priests. (My apologies to any group I've missed out. There
must be quite a few.)
Incubus
2018-01-15 10:14:28 UTC
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Post by GB
Extraordinary. I find the whole holocaust denial fantasy really perplexing.
It certainly doesn't stand up to examination of the facts.  The
motivation seems to be either that people identify with some aspects
of National Socialism and don't want to believe that it was as bad as
all that or they are convinced that it's a Jewish conspiracy because
they don't like Jews.
The Nazis murdered Gypsies, Communists, and the disabled. Not to mention
troublesome priests. (My apologies to any group I've missed out. There
must be quite a few.)
They did but no one suggests that the Holocaust was a Gypsy or disabled
conspiracy.

Handsome Jack
2018-01-11 17:37:30 UTC
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
Surely he would just be 'preaching to the converted' at such events?
He was inciting murder.
Not in the article I quoted. Where?
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Jack
GB
2018-01-12 10:01:17 UTC
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Post by GB
Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
 Surely he would just be 'preaching to the converted' at such events?
He was inciting murder.
Not in the article I quoted. Where?
You need to read more widely then. I have quoted some of what he said
and the reaction of his audience.
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2018-01-11 19:32:52 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
Surely he would just be 'preaching to the converted' at such events?
He was inciting murder. The risk is that he struck a chord with one of
the 'converted' who actually decides to have a go.
'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'
What did I tell you about leaving for 'Israeel' voluntarily, jewboi?
It may be too late already.
Post by GB
Thomas Mair presumably attended a few rallies like this before murdering
a defenceless Jo Cox in cold blood.
Presumably? A jew allegation with zero substance.
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" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

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(Divinity, 'University' of Salonica, 2001)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
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"Actually, it is obvious he's not all there. Most wannabes are short
on IQ and have severe mental problems. I have yet to see a post from
this cretin that makes sense. Usually, he just does his "You are a
Nazi........." and even *that* he aped from some other imbecile. His
other attempts at posting in usenet usually consist of one line or
even one word drivel."
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2018-01-11 20:53:09 UTC
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Post by GB
He was inciting murder. The risk is that he struck a chord with one of
the 'converted' who actually decides to have a go.
'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'
What did I tell you about leaving for 'Israeel' voluntarily, jewboi?
It may be too late already.
What did I tell you about pulling your thick psychopathic head out of your
fat psychopathic serbian arse, dumb anal Razovic?
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Thomas Mair presumably attended a few rallies like this before murdering
a defenceless Jo Cox in cold blood.
Presumably? A jew allegation with zero substance.
...that you can't refute, you psychotic serbian piece of shit!
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harry
2018-01-11 07:54:41 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
A self-proclaimed Nazi who claimed Britain took the wrong side in the
second world war has been convicted of stirring racial hatred against
Jewish people.
A jury at Preston crown court unanimously found that the 22-year-old man
from Lancashire, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had breached the
Public Order Act 1986 by using “threatening, abusive or insulting
words or behaviour” intended to stir up racial hatred.
The man committed the offences in two speeches, the first in March 2016
at a demonstration by a group called North West Infidels in Blackpool
and the second at a meeting of the Yorkshire forum for nationalists,
attended by people from various far-right groups.
The jury was played a recording of the Blackpool demonstration in which
the defendant could be heard describing Jewish people as “parasites”
and arguing that Britain should have joined the Nazis to fight the
communists in the second world war.
The man added: “Yes, I am a national socialist, I’m not scared of
that label. You can call me Nazi. You can call me fascist. That is what
I am.”
In the second speech the defendant said he thought Hitler had shown too
much mercy towards Jewish people.
Matthew Brook, prosecuting said the man had been using the speech to
explain his support for the now banned group National Action, and was
“in effect recruiting for them”.
Brook told the court: “He was clearly saying in both speeches that the
Jewish race should be killed … He is making both of those speeches to
recruit members to his cause and to encourage people who already agree
with his racist views to stand firm.”
Giving evidence, the defendant confirmed he was a Nazi but said that did
not mean he hated all Jews. He denied intending to stir racial hatred
and instead said he was trying to provoke lively debate and to shift
people’s views further to the right.
After the verdict, the anti-racism organisation Hope Not Hate said it
was pleased to have provided “the impetus and evidence” for the
man’s prosecution."
Hope not hate. Full of hate themselves.

I wonder why he can't be named?
Gotta be apolitical reason.
FMurtz
2018-01-11 09:51:55 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
"Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
far-right events
A self-proclaimed Nazi who claimed Britain took the wrong side in the
second world war has been convicted of stirring racial hatred against
Jewish people.
A jury at Preston crown court unanimously found that the 22-year-old man
from Lancashire, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had breached the
Public Order Act 1986 by using “threatening, abusive or insulting
words or behaviour” intended to stir up racial hatred.
The man committed the offences in two speeches, the first in March 2016
at a demonstration by a group called North West Infidels in Blackpool
and the second at a meeting of the Yorkshire forum for nationalists,
attended by people from various far-right groups.
The jury was played a recording of the Blackpool demonstration in which
the defendant could be heard describing Jewish people as “parasites”
and arguing that Britain should have joined the Nazis to fight the
communists in the second world war.
The man added: “Yes, I am a national socialist, I’m not scared of
that label. You can call me Nazi. You can call me fascist. That is what
I am.”
In the second speech the defendant said he thought Hitler had shown too
much mercy towards Jewish people.
Matthew Brook, prosecuting said the man had been using the speech to
explain his support for the now banned group National Action, and was
“in effect recruiting for them”.
Brook told the court: “He was clearly saying in both speeches that the
Jewish race should be killed … He is making both of those speeches to
recruit members to his cause and to encourage people who already agree
with his racist views to stand firm.”
Giving evidence, the defendant confirmed he was a Nazi but said that did
not mean he hated all Jews. He denied intending to stir racial hatred
and instead said he was trying to provoke lively debate and to shift
people’s views further to the right.
After the verdict, the anti-racism organisation Hope Not Hate said it
was pleased to have provided “the impetus and evidence” for the
man’s prosecution."
Hope not hate. Full of hate themselves.
I wonder why he can't be named?
Gotta be apolitical reason.
Found guilty,so what happened then
Lancer
2018-01-11 10:52:54 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to a
Jewish person?
Post by Handsome Jack
I have many times heard such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
Which pubs do you frequent and do you eavesdrop a lot on other peoples
conversations?

One thing to say shit like that to your mates in a casual conversation,
totally different to be at a rally using a megaphone to drum up support
of a banned organisation.
GB
2018-01-11 12:17:06 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to a
Jewish person?
What he said was <quote>

“In World War Two we took the wrong side. We should have been fighting
the communists, instead we took the wrong side with communists and
fought the national socialists who were there to remove Jewry from
Europe once and for all.

“That’s what the final solution was. Instead we let these parasites live
among us and they still do.”

Speaking on a microphone, he concluded: “We need to start focusing on
the real enemy. The real enemy is the Jew. Thank you.”

</quote>

Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
Post by Lancer
Post by Handsome Jack
I have many times heard such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
Which pubs do you frequent and do you eavesdrop a lot on other peoples
conversations?
One thing to say shit like that to your mates in a casual conversation,
Gor blimey! Do people actually advocate murder in a casual conversation
with their mates? It's one thing to say that you don't like or trust
particular people, but advocating their murder in a casual conversation
doesn't sound at all casual to me.
Post by Lancer
totally different to be at a rally using a megaphone to drum up support
of a banned organisation.
The real difference is that he'd have probably got away with it chatting
to his mates in the pub.
Incubus
2018-01-11 12:40:50 UTC
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to
a Jewish person?
What he said was <quote>
“In World War Two we took the wrong side. We should have been fighting
the communists, instead we took the wrong side with communists and
fought the national socialists who were there to remove Jewry from
Europe once and for all.
“That’s what the final solution was. Instead we let these parasites live
among us and they still do.”
Speaking on a microphone, he concluded: “We need to start focusing on
the real enemy. The real enemy is the Jew. Thank you.”
</quote>
Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
Is he inciting murder? What he is asking for (I'm not saying I agree
with him) could be achieved through deportation.
GB
2018-01-11 13:00:05 UTC
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Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
Is he inciting murder?  What he is asking for (I'm not saying I agree
with him) could be achieved through deportation.
His audience seem to have thought he was:

'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'



Of course, we only get to see excerpts from what he said. The jury heard
the whole lot.

BTW, I hope he gets fairly leniently treated when he gets sentenced. We
are all in favour of free speech, but there are limits, and there needs
to be a clear indication that this isn't acceptable. It's not just
offensive, but some idiot in his audience might go off and commit murder.
Incubus
2018-01-11 13:23:36 UTC
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Post by GB
Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
Is he inciting murder?  What he is asking for (I'm not saying I agree
with him) could be achieved through deportation.
'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'
Of course, we only get to see excerpts from what he said. The jury heard
the whole lot.
BTW, I hope he gets fairly leniently treated when he gets sentenced. We
are all in favour of free speech, but there are limits, and there needs
to be a clear indication that this isn't acceptable. It's not just
offensive, but some idiot in his audience might go off and commit murder.
In some ways, it's a fine line. I think incitement to murder or assault
should definitely be prosecuted but I'm not convinced this counts. The
'far right' doesn't seem to commit all that many murders per capita and
seems to draw a disproportionate level of attention from the justice
system, media and political establishment. I wonder why that is. Why
is that when people ask for white people to be killed, sterilised or
aborted, no action is taken?
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2018-01-11 19:38:10 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:00:05 +0000, jewboi GB (jb)
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Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
Is he inciting murder?  What he is asking for (I'm not saying I agree
with him) could be achieved through deportation.
'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'
Of course, we only get to see excerpts from what he said. The jury heard
the whole lot.
BTW, I hope he gets fairly leniently treated when he gets sentenced. We
are all in favour of free speech, but there are limits, and there needs
to be a clear indication that this isn't acceptable. It's not just
offensive, but some idiot in his audience might go off and commit murder.
Oh stop kvetching already....it seems to be all you subpeople do!
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Nazi........." and even *that* he aped from some other imbecile. His
other attempts at posting in usenet usually consist of one line or
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2018-01-11 20:53:23 UTC
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Post by GB
'The address was met with applause and one male was heard to say: “Yeah!
Kill the f***ers.”'
Of course, we only get to see excerpts from what he said. The jury heard
the whole lot.
BTW, I hope he gets fairly leniently treated when he gets sentenced. We
are all in favour of free speech, but there are limits, and there needs
to be a clear indication that this isn't acceptable. It's not just
offensive, but some idiot in his audience might go off and commit murder.
Oh stop kvetching already....it seems to be all you subpeople do!
Oh KEEP making a complete ass of yourself, Razoshit! It seems to be your one
and only "talent"! <BG>
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Lancer
2018-01-11 22:41:24 UTC
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to
a Jewish person?
What he said was <quote>
“In World War Two we took the wrong side. We should have been fighting
the communists, instead we took the wrong side with communists and
fought the national socialists who were there to remove Jewry from
Europe once and for all.
“That’s what the final solution was. Instead we let these parasites
live among us and they still do.”
Speaking on a microphone, he concluded: “We need to start focusing on
the real enemy. The real enemy is the Jew. Thank you.”
</quote>
Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
Is he inciting murder? What he is asking for (I'm not saying I agree
with him) could be achieved through deportation.
That is what Nazi Germany tried at first, wasn't quick enough.
Handsome Jack
2018-01-11 17:40:45 UTC
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress
to a Jewish person?
What he said was <quote>
“In World War Two we took the wrong side. We should have been
fighting the communists, instead we took the wrong side with communists
and fought the national socialists who were there to remove Jewry from
Europe once and for all.
“That’s what the final solution was. Instead we let these parasites
live among us and they still do.”
Speaking on a microphone, he concluded: “We need to start focusing on
the real enemy. The real enemy is the Jew. Thank you.”
</quote>
Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
No he's not.
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Post by Handsome Jack
I have many times heard such views expressed in pubs and the
equivalent.
Which pubs do you frequent and do you eavesdrop a lot on other
peoples conversations?
One thing to say shit like that to your mates in a casual
conversation,
Gor blimey! Do people actually advocate murder in a casual conversation
with their mates?
The person concerned did not incite murder.
Post by GB
It's one thing to say that you don't like or trust particular people,
but advocating their murder in a casual conversation doesn't sound at
all casual to me.
The person concerned did not incite murder.
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Post by Lancer
totally different to be at a rally using a megaphone to drum up
support of a banned organisation.
The real difference is that he'd have probably got away with it
chatting to his mates in the pub.
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2018-01-12 10:33:16 UTC
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The person concerned did not incite murder.
Do you accept that, if he did, it was right he was prosecuted?

If so, I suggest that you read what he said and what the audience
reaction was.
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2018-01-11 19:36:53 UTC
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Post by Lancer
Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to a
Jewish person?
What he said was <quote>
“In World War Two we took the wrong side. We should have been fighting
the communists, instead we took the wrong side with communists and
fought the national socialists who were there to remove Jewry from
Europe once and for all.
“That’s what the final solution was. Instead we let these parasites live
among us and they still do.”
Speaking on a microphone, he concluded: “We need to start focusing on
the real enemy. The real enemy is the Jew. Thank you.”
</quote>
Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
No, he's not. He's inciting expulsions, which would be a Good Thing™
for Yurp.
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" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

"The jew g-d is your g-d's dad."
- quoted from the Foreskin Peeler's doctoral dissertation
(Divinity, 'University' of Salonica, 2001)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

"Actually, it is obvious he's not all there. Most wannabes are short
on IQ and have severe mental problems. I have yet to see a post from
this cretin that makes sense. Usually, he just does his "You are a
Nazi........." and even *that* he aped from some other imbecile. His
other attempts at posting in usenet usually consist of one line or
even one word drivel."
- Boadicea, about GBLTP dreckgook Ejershito
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Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
Post by GB
What he said was <quote>
“In World War Two we took the wrong side. We should have been fighting
the communists, instead we took the wrong side with communists and
fought the national socialists who were there to remove Jewry from
Europe once and for all.
“That’s what the final solution was. Instead we let these parasites live
among us and they still do.”
Speaking on a microphone, he concluded: “We need to start focusing on
the real enemy. The real enemy is the Jew. Thank you.”
</quote>
Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
No, he's not.
Yes, he did incite murder as he referred to the "final solution", you
retarded piece of serbian shit!
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
He's inciting expulsions, which would be a Good Thing™
for Yurp.
He didn't incite expulsions, he referred to the "final solution", dreckserb!
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Lancer
2018-01-11 22:43:37 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to
a Jewish person?
What he said was <quote>
“In World War Two we took the wrong side. We should have been fighting
the communists, instead we took the wrong side with communists and
fought the national socialists who were there to remove Jewry from
Europe once and for all.
“That’s what the final solution was. Instead we let these parasites live
among us and they still do.”
Speaking on a microphone, he concluded: “We need to start focusing on
the real enemy. The real enemy is the Jew. Thank you.”
</quote>
Those are, thankfully, not typical political views. He's inciting murder.
Surprised he never went on about Muslims, but I suppose the enemy of his
enemy...
Post by GB
Post by Lancer
Post by Handsome Jack
I have many times heard such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
Which pubs do you frequent and do you eavesdrop a lot on other peoples
conversations?
One thing to say shit like that to your mates in a casual conversation,
Gor blimey! Do people actually advocate murder in a casual conversation
with their mates? It's one thing to say that you don't like or trust
particular people, but advocating their murder in a casual conversation
doesn't sound at all casual to me.
Have one work colleague that says we should strafe the boats full of
migrants coming to Europe, could get him sacked for saying that but I
just roll my eyes and let him carry on.

Poor bloke is on blood pressure tablets, one day he will go off on one
and something will pop.
Post by GB
Post by Lancer
totally different to be at a rally using a megaphone to drum up
support of a banned organisation.
The real difference is that he'd have probably got away with it chatting
to his mates in the pub.
If others overheard it and complained to the landlord the landlord could
lose their licence if they did not take action, which makes me think the
OP is exaggerating somewhat.

That or frequent some rather nasty establishments.
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2018-01-12 08:48:57 UTC
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The real difference is that he'd have probably got away with it chatting
to his mates in the pub.
If others overheard it and complained to the landlord the landlord
could lose their licence if they did not take action,
You what?
Post by Lancer
which makes me think the OP is exaggerating somewhat.
That or frequent some rather nasty establishments.
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to a
Jewish person?
In the article I cited, he did not say that Jews needed to be
eradicated.

However, even if he had said that, no it should not cause alarm or
distress to anyone.
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2018-01-11 22:40:06 UTC
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to
a Jewish person?
In the article I cited, he did not say that Jews needed to be eradicated.
However, even if he had said that, no it should not cause alarm or
distress to anyone.
Why not?

Do you think the likes of Anjem Choudary should be allowed to preach his
hate so long as he never actually harms anyone?
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to
a Jewish person?
In the article I cited, he did not say that Jews needed to be eradicated.
However, even if he had said that, no it should not cause alarm or
distress to anyone.
Why not?
There wouldn't have been any Jews at the rally, for one thing.
Post by Lancer
Do you think the likes of Anjem Choudary should be allowed to preach
his hate so long as he never actually harms anyone?
Depends exactly what he says, but generally speaking, yes.
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2018-01-12 09:28:32 UTC
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Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to
a Jewish person?
In the article I cited, he did not say that Jews needed to be eradicated.
However, even if he had said that, no it should not cause alarm or
distress to anyone.
Why not?
There wouldn't have been any Jews at the rally, for one thing.
Was it was held in a private place with security guards demanding to see ID?
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Do you think the likes of Anjem Choudary should be allowed to preach
his hate so long as he never actually harms anyone?
Depends exactly what he says, but generally speaking, yes.
You seem to be accepting that there are limits, so it's just a question
of where those limits lie. Can you be more specific?
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2018-01-12 12:12:28 UTC
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Do you think the likes of Anjem Choudary should be allowed to preach
his hate so long as he never actually harms anyone?
Depends exactly what he says, but generally speaking, yes.
You seem to be accepting that there are limits,
Of course I accept there ought to be limits to free speech. Everybody
does.
Post by GB
so it's just a question of where those limits lie. Can you be more
specific?
In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to prosecute
deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible threats of
violence that would make the threatened person fear that they might be
carried out.
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Post by Lancer
Do you think the likes of Anjem Choudary should be allowed to preach
his hate so long as he never actually harms anyone?
 Depends exactly what he says, but generally speaking, yes.
You seem to be accepting that there are limits,
Of course I accept there ought to be limits to free speech. Everybody does.
Post by GB
so it's just a question of where those limits lie. Can you be more
specific?
In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to prosecute
deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible threats of
violence that would make the threatened person fear that they might be
carried out.
So, Abu Hamza should not have been prosecuted?
pensive hamster
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Do you think the likes of Anjem Choudary should be allowed to preach
his hate so long as he never actually harms anyone?
 Depends exactly what he says, but generally speaking, yes.
You seem to be accepting that there are limits,
Of course I accept there ought to be limits to free speech. Everybody does.
Post by GB
so it's just a question of where those limits lie. Can you be more
specific?
In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to prosecute
deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible threats of
violence that would make the threatened person fear that they might be
carried out.
So, Abu Hamza should not have been prosecuted?
While I don't entirely understand the process, it does seem
that some radical preachers like Abu Hamza are able to
"radicalise" (or brainwash, or exert undue influence over)
some of their followers, to the extent of persuading them to
commit terrorist acts.

Quite where you draw the line between free speech, and the
ability to actually persuade some people to commit violent
acts, I'm not sure.

Also, I'm not sure how much radicalisation or brainwashing
might go on in extreme right-wing groups, but it seems possible
some might. Thomas Mair must have got his ideas from
somewhere.

Of course, proving a causative link between extremist speech
and actual violent or criminal acts, is quite difficult.
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2018-01-12 22:07:28 UTC
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In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to
prosecute deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible
threats of violence that would make the threatened person fear that
they might be carried out.
So, Abu Hamza should not have been prosecuted?
I don't know. What did he actually say, that he was prosecuted for?
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In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to
prosecute deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible
threats of violence that would make the threatened person fear that
they might be carried out.
So, Abu Hamza should not have been prosecuted?
I don't know. What did he actually say, that he was prosecuted for?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri

'In 2004, Hamza was arrested by British police after the United
States requested he be extradited to face charges. He was later
charged by British authorities with sixteen offences for inciting
violence and racial hatred.[3] In 2006, a British court found him
guilty of inciting violence, and sentenced him to seven years'
imprisonment. On 5 October 2012, after an eight-year legal battle,
he was extradited from the UK to the United States to face
terrorism charges[4][5] and on 14 April 2014 his trial began in New
York.[6] On 19 May 2014, Hamza was found guilty of eleven
terrorism charges by a federal jury in Manhattan. On 9 January
2015, he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of
parole.[7]'

Note [3] is:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/oct/20/terrorism.september111
20 Oct 2004
'The radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza appeared in court yesterday
accused of 16 offences, including 10 of encouraging his followers
to murder Jews or other non-Muslims, for which he could face a
life sentence.

'Mr Hamza, 47, faces four charges under the 1986 Public Order
Act of "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour
with the intention of stirring up racial hatred". He is also accused,
on one count, of having eight video and audio recordings, with
intent to distribute them to incite racial hatred.

'He faces one charge under the Terrorism Act 2000, of possessing
a document containing information "of a kind likely to be useful to
a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".
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Post by GB
Post by Handsome Jack
In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to
prosecute deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible
threats of violence that would make the threatened person fear that
they might be carried out.
So, Abu Hamza should not have been prosecuted?
I don't know. What did he actually say, that he was prosecuted for?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri
'In 2004, Hamza was arrested by British police after the United
States requested he be extradited to face charges. He was later
charged by British authorities with sixteen offences for inciting
violence and racial hatred.[3] In 2006, a British court found him
guilty of inciting violence, and sentenced him to seven years'
imprisonment. On 5 October 2012, after an eight-year legal battle,
he was extradited from the UK to the United States to face
terrorism charges[4][5] and on 14 April 2014 his trial began in New
York.[6] On 19 May 2014, Hamza was found guilty of eleven
terrorism charges by a federal jury in Manhattan. On 9 January
2015, he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of
parole.[7]'
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/oct/20/terrorism.september111
20 Oct 2004
'The radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza appeared in court yesterday
accused of 16 offences, including 10 of encouraging his followers
to murder Jews or other non-Muslims, for which he could face a
life sentence.
'Mr Hamza, 47, faces four charges under the 1986 Public Order
Act of "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour
with the intention of stirring up racial hatred". He is also accused,
on one count, of having eight video and audio recordings, with
intent to distribute them to incite racial hatred.
'He faces one charge under the Terrorism Act 2000, of possessing
a document containing information "of a kind likely to be useful to
a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".
Did you notice that they don't say exactly what he said?
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Post by Handsome Jack
In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to
prosecute deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible
threats of violence that would make the threatened person fear that
they might be carried out.
So, Abu Hamza should not have been prosecuted?
I don't know. What did he actually say, that he was prosecuted for?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri
'In 2004, Hamza was arrested by British police after the United
States requested he be extradited to face charges. He was later
charged by British authorities with sixteen offences for inciting
violence and racial hatred.[3] In 2006, a British court found him
guilty of inciting violence, and sentenced him to seven years'
imprisonment. On 5 October 2012, after an eight-year legal battle,
he was extradited from the UK to the United States to face
terrorism charges[4][5] and on 14 April 2014 his trial began in New
York.[6] On 19 May 2014, Hamza was found guilty of eleven
terrorism charges by a federal jury in Manhattan. On 9 January
2015, he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of
parole.[7]'
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/oct/20/terrorism.september111
20 Oct 2004
'The radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza appeared in court yesterday
accused of 16 offences, including 10 of encouraging his followers
to murder Jews or other non-Muslims, for which he could face a
life sentence.
'Mr Hamza, 47, faces four charges under the 1986 Public Order
Act of "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour
with the intention of stirring up racial hatred". He is also accused,
on one count, of having eight video and audio recordings, with
intent to distribute them to incite racial hatred.
'He faces one charge under the Terrorism Act 2000, of possessing
a document containing information "of a kind likely to be useful to
a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".
Did you notice that they don't say exactly what he said?
Yes I did. I did try Googling for some kind of details or record
of what he said, but couldn't find any.

I guess that repeating words that have been found to be
"threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour [used]
with the intention of stirring up racial hatred" might itself be an
offence, a bit like repeating a libel.
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
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pensive hamster posted
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GB posted
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Post by Handsome Jack
In the context we are discussing, it would be reasonable to
prosecute deliberate, specific incitements to violence, or credible
threats of violence that would make the threatened person fear that
they might be carried out.
So, Abu Hamza should not have been prosecuted?
I don't know. What did he actually say, that he was prosecuted for?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri
'In 2004, Hamza was arrested by British police after the United
States requested he be extradited to face charges. He was later
charged by British authorities with sixteen offences for inciting
violence and racial hatred.[3] In 2006, a British court found him
guilty of inciting violence, and sentenced him to seven years'
imprisonment. On 5 October 2012, after an eight-year legal battle,
he was extradited from the UK to the United States to face
terrorism charges[4][5] and on 14 April 2014 his trial began in New
York.[6] On 19 May 2014, Hamza was found guilty of eleven
terrorism charges by a federal jury in Manhattan. On 9 January
2015, he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of
parole.[7]'
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/oct/20/terrorism.september111
20 Oct 2004
'The radical Muslim cleric Abu Hamza appeared in court yesterday
accused of 16 offences, including 10 of encouraging his followers
to murder Jews or other non-Muslims, for which he could face a
life sentence.
'Mr Hamza, 47, faces four charges under the 1986 Public Order
Act of "using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour
with the intention of stirring up racial hatred". He is also accused,
on one count, of having eight video and audio recordings, with
intent to distribute them to incite racial hatred.
'He faces one charge under the Terrorism Act 2000, of possessing
a document containing information "of a kind likely to be useful to
a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism".
Did you notice that they don't say exactly what he said?
Yes I did. I did try Googling for some kind of details or record
of what he said, but couldn't find any.
I guess that repeating words that have been found to be
"threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour [used]
with the intention of stirring up racial hatred" might itself be an
offence, a bit like repeating a libel.
When you're quoting someone else??? Don't be absurd!
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" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

"The jew g-d is your g-d's dad."
- quoted from the Foreskin Peeler's doctoral dissertation
(Divinity, 'University' of Salonica, 2001)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

"Actually, it is obvious he's not all there. Most wannabes are short
on IQ and have severe mental problems. I have yet to see a post from
this cretin that makes sense. Usually, he just does his "You are a
Nazi........." and even *that* he aped from some other imbecile. His
other attempts at posting in usenet usually consist of one line or
even one word drivel."
- Boadicea, about GBLTP dreckgook Ejershito
The Peeler
2018-01-13 19:32:26 UTC
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On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 09:36:52 -0800, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
of herself as "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry'
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
Post by pensive hamster
Post by Handsome Jack
Did you notice that they don't say exactly what he said?
Yes I did. I did try Googling for some kind of details or record
of what he said, but couldn't find any.
I guess that repeating words that have been found to be
"threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour [used]
with the intention of stirring up racial hatred" might itself be an
offence, a bit like repeating a libel.
When you're quoting someone else??? Don't be absurd!
Nothing absurd about it, Retardovic! Decent people aren't willing to give
scum like him a platform, nor the satisfaction that he sees his sick shit
repeated in public!
--
sully to stinking Goran Razovic, our resident psychopath (aka "The Rectum"):
"frankly you're a dingleberry on usenet's ass"
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Sick old pedo Andrew "Andrzej" Baron (aka "Ron Jacobson"/etc)
2018-01-13 21:15:54 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>,
A shiteating cowardly nazoid sub-louse PEDO named Andrew "Andrzej"
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
When you're quoting someone else??? Don't be absurd!
You are SO stupid, you old nazoid pedo.
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2018-01-11 19:35:38 UTC
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Post by Handsome Jack
Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence.
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to a
Jewish person?
Of course not...they're USED to it!

Pogroms, purges, discriminations, persecutions, beatings, massacres,
expulsions, ethnic cleansings, inquisitions, 'holocausts'®™ and
intifadas DEFINE the jew experience!
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Post by Handsome Jack
I have many times heard such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
Which pubs do you frequent and do you eavesdrop a lot on other peoples
conversations?
One thing to say shit like that to your mates in a casual conversation,
totally different to be at a rally using a megaphone to drum up support
of a banned organisation.
Nope. Same thing. Either you got, free speech or you don't.
- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

"The jew g-d is your g-d's dad."
- quoted from the Foreskin Peeler's doctoral dissertation
(Divinity, 'University' of Salonica, 2001)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
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"Actually, it is obvious he's not all there. Most wannabes are short
on IQ and have severe mental problems. I have yet to see a post from
this cretin that makes sense. Usually, he just does his "You are a
Nazi........." and even *that* he aped from some other imbecile. His
other attempts at posting in usenet usually consist of one line or
even one word drivel."
- Boadicea, about GBLTP dreckgook Ejershito
The Peeler
2018-01-11 20:53:47 UTC
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:35:38 -0800, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
of herself as "jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry'
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
Post by Lancer
Saying Jews need to be eradicated will not cause alarm or distress to a
Jewish person?
Of course not...they're USED to it!
Psychotic NONSENSE!
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
Pogroms, purges, discriminations, persecutions, beatings, massacres,
expulsions, ethnic cleansings, inquisitions, 'holocausts'®™ and
intifadas DEFINE the jew experience!
Yet more psychotic NONSENSE!
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
Post by Lancer
Post by Handsome Jack
I have many times heard such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
Which pubs do you frequent and do you eavesdrop a lot on other peoples
conversations?
One thing to say shit like that to your mates in a casual conversation,
totally different to be at a rally using a megaphone to drum up support
of a banned organisation.
Nope. Same thing. Either you got, free speech or you don't.
Says WHO? YOU, a known psychotic idiot, troll and nazitard? LMAO
--
tomcov about poor psychotic asshole Razovic:
"Assholes come
Assholes go
But the revd asshole goes on forever.
(and he speaks through it)"
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BurfordTJustice
2018-01-11 13:00:58 UTC
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Freedom is long gone fromthe UK.


The empire is dead for a reason...





"Handsome Jack" <***@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:***@none.demon.co.uk...
: Nothing quoted here suggests the defendant threatened anybody or caused
: alarm or distress, as opposed to mere offence. I have many times heard
: such views expressed in pubs and the equivalent.
:
: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jan/08/self-proclaimed-nazi-foun
: d-guilty-of-stirring-antisemitism-in-uk-racial-hatred-preston
:
: "Self-proclaimed Nazi found guilty of stirring antisemitism in UK
: Man, 22, convicted at Preston crown court after speeches at two
: far-right events
:
: A self-proclaimed Nazi who claimed Britain took the wrong side in the
: second world war has been convicted of stirring racial hatred against
: Jewish people.
:
: A jury at Preston crown court unanimously found that the 22-year-old man
: from Lancashire, who cannot be named for legal reasons, had breached the
: Public Order Act 1986 by using "threatening, abusive or insulting
: words or behaviour" intended to stir up racial hatred.
:
: The man committed the offences in two speeches, the first in March 2016
: at a demonstration by a group called North West Infidels in Blackpool
: and the second at a meeting of the Yorkshire forum for nationalists,
: attended by people from various far-right groups.
:
: The jury was played a recording of the Blackpool demonstration in which
: the defendant could be heard describing Jewish people as "parasites"
: and arguing that Britain should have joined the Nazis to fight the
: communists in the second world war.
:
: The man added: "Yes, I am a national socialist, I'm not scared of
: that label. You can call me Nazi. You can call me fascist. That is what
: I am."
:
: In the second speech the defendant said he thought Hitler had shown too
: much mercy towards Jewish people.
:
: Matthew Brook, prosecuting said the man had been using the speech to
: explain his support for the now banned group National Action, and was
: "in effect recruiting for them".
:
: Brook told the court: "He was clearly saying in both speeches that the
: Jewish race should be killed . He is making both of those speeches to
: recruit members to his cause and to encourage people who already agree
: with his racist views to stand firm."
:
: Giving evidence, the defendant confirmed he was a Nazi but said that did
: not mean he hated all Jews. He denied intending to stir racial hatred
: and instead said he was trying to provoke lively debate and to shift
: people's views further to the right.
:
: After the verdict, the anti-racism organisation Hope Not Hate said it
: was pleased to have provided "the impetus and evidence" for the
: man's prosecution."
:
:
: --
: Jack
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