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Speaker John Bercow says MPs should not feel obliged to back Brexit
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MM
2017-10-12 09:23:31 UTC
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"Commons Speaker says it is ‘opinion, rather than a constitutional
fact’ that MPs must vote through Brexit because of referendum result"

"The Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said MPs have the right to
attempt to block Brexit using the parliamentary process, rather than
feeling obliged to vote in line with the referendum result.

"In a wide-ranging Q&A, Bercow also referred to the Daily Mail as 'the
Daily Fail' for its criticism of parliament’s new £7m education
centre, though he himself has often been the target of the newspaper’s
attacks.

"Bercow was the target of a short-lived plot by Conservative MPs to
oust him from the role, which he has held since 2009, with several
alleging he had failed to be impartial having declared he voted remain
in the EU referendum, among other accusations.

"Speaking to the Hansard Society, Bercow said it was an 'opinion,
rather than a constitutional fact' that MPs were obliged to vote
through Brexit because of the referendum result.

" 'There will be some members of parliament who say: ‘I want to be
able at the end of all this if I’m not satisfied, to say no, to try to
persuade other members of parliament to say no, and to hope that no
might delay Brexit or prevent Brexit,’' he said, in comments reported
by Politico. 'Do they have a right to argue that point of view? They
absolutely do.'"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/12/mps-should-not-feel-obliged-to-back-brexit-says-john-bercow

MM
Dan S. MacAbre
2017-10-12 09:29:00 UTC
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"Commons Speaker says it is ‘opinion, rather than a constitutional
fact’ that MPs must vote through Brexit because of referendum result"
"The Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said MPs have the right to
attempt to block Brexit using the parliamentary process, rather than
feeling obliged to vote in line with the referendum result.
"In a wide-ranging Q&A, Bercow also referred to the Daily Mail as 'the
Daily Fail' for its criticism of parliament’s new £7m education
centre, though he himself has often been the target of the newspaper’s
attacks.
"Bercow was the target of a short-lived plot by Conservative MPs to
oust him from the role, which he has held since 2009, with several
alleging he had failed to be impartial having declared he voted remain
in the EU referendum, among other accusations.
"Speaking to the Hansard Society, Bercow said it was an 'opinion,
rather than a constitutional fact' that MPs were obliged to vote
through Brexit because of the referendum result.
" 'There will be some members of parliament who say: ‘I want to be
able at the end of all this if I’m not satisfied, to say no, to try to
persuade other members of parliament to say no, and to hope that no
might delay Brexit or prevent Brexit,’' he said, in comments reported
by Politico. 'Do they have a right to argue that point of view? They
absolutely do.'"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/12/mps-should-not-feel-obliged-to-back-brexit-says-john-bercow
MM
Sure, haven't they always been able to do that? But they'll still have
to face their constituents. So, a risky strategy, unless they can be
sure of getting most of them onside at some time in the future; which
(of course) is what they'll be planning to do by hook or by crook.
R. Mark Clayton
2017-10-12 11:31:21 UTC
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Post by Dan S. MacAbre
"Commons Speaker says it is ‘opinion, rather than a constitutional
fact’ that MPs must vote through Brexit because of referendum result"
"The Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said MPs have the right to
attempt to block Brexit using the parliamentary process, rather than
feeling obliged to vote in line with the referendum result.
"In a wide-ranging Q&A, Bercow also referred to the Daily Mail as 'the
Daily Fail' for its criticism of parliament’s new £7m education
centre, though he himself has often been the target of the newspaper’s
attacks.
"Bercow was the target of a short-lived plot by Conservative MPs to
oust him from the role, which he has held since 2009, with several
alleging he had failed to be impartial having declared he voted remain
in the EU referendum, among other accusations.
"Speaking to the Hansard Society, Bercow said it was an 'opinion,
rather than a constitutional fact' that MPs were obliged to vote
through Brexit because of the referendum result.
" 'There will be some members of parliament who say: ‘I want to be
able at the end of all this if I’m not satisfied, to say no, to try to
persuade other members of parliament to say no, and to hope that no
might delay Brexit or prevent Brexit,’' he said, in comments reported
by Politico. 'Do they have a right to argue that point of view? They
absolutely do.'"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/12/mps-should-not-feel-obliged-to-back-brexit-says-john-bercow
MM
Sure, haven't they always been able to do that? But they'll still have
to face their constituents.
like Zac Goldsmith...
Post by Dan S. MacAbre
So, a risky strategy, unless they can be
sure of getting most of them onside at some time in the future; which
(of course) is what they'll be planning to do by hook or by crook.
Norman Wells
2017-10-12 11:10:46 UTC
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Raw Message
"Commons Speaker says it is ‘opinion, rather than a constitutional
fact’ that MPs must vote through Brexit because of referendum result"
"The Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said MPs have the right to
attempt to block Brexit using the parliamentary process, rather than
feeling obliged to vote in line with the referendum result.
"In a wide-ranging Q&A, Bercow also referred to the Daily Mail as 'the
Daily Fail' for its criticism of parliament’s new £7m education
centre, though he himself has often been the target of the newspaper’s
attacks.
"Bercow was the target of a short-lived plot by Conservative MPs to
oust him from the role, which he has held since 2009, with several
alleging he had failed to be impartial having declared he voted remain
in the EU referendum, among other accusations.
"Speaking to the Hansard Society, Bercow said it was an 'opinion,
rather than a constitutional fact' that MPs were obliged to vote
through Brexit because of the referendum result.
" 'There will be some members of parliament who say: ‘I want to be
able at the end of all this if I’m not satisfied, to say no, to try to
persuade other members of parliament to say no, and to hope that no
might delay Brexit or prevent Brexit,’' he said, in comments reported
by Politico. 'Do they have a right to argue that point of view? They
absolutely do.'"
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/12/mps-should-not-feel-obliged-to-back-brexit-says-john-bercow
And what?
Vidcapper
2017-10-12 13:58:59 UTC
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"Commons Speaker says it is ‘opinion, rather than a constitutional
fact’ that MPs must vote through Brexit because of referendum result"
"The Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said MPs have the right to
attempt to block Brexit using the parliamentary process, rather than
feeling obliged to vote in line with the referendum result.
What he forgets to mention is that he is virtually immune from facing
the electorate, due to the convention that the main parties do not
oppose the Speaker in GE's.
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Ophelia
2017-10-12 16:46:10 UTC
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Raw Message
"Commons Speaker says it is ‘opinion, rather than a constitutional
fact’ that MPs must vote through Brexit because of referendum result"
"The Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said MPs have the right to
attempt to block Brexit using the parliamentary process, rather than
feeling obliged to vote in line with the referendum result.
What he forgets to mention is that he is virtually immune from facing
the electorate, due to the convention that the main parties do not
oppose the Speaker in GE's.

Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

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It's time he was out on his backside!
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kat
2017-10-12 17:38:54 UTC
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Post by Vidcapper
"Commons Speaker says it is ‘opinion, rather than a constitutional
fact’ that MPs must vote through Brexit because of referendum result"
"The Commons Speaker, John Bercow, has said MPs have the right to
attempt to block Brexit using the parliamentary process, rather than
feeling obliged to vote in line with the referendum result.
What he forgets to mention is that he is virtually immune from facing
the electorate, due to the convention that the main parties do not
oppose the Speaker in GE's.
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
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It's time he was out on his backside!
Long past time!
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kat
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