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Yellow
2017-04-21 00:02:47 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.

Worth a look.
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2017-04-21 07:54:40 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?

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Norman Wells
2017-04-21 07:56:47 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Omega
2017-04-21 08:22:11 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!

Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.

Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.

Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.

omega
Omega
2017-04-21 08:23:37 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
omega
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Ophelia
2017-04-21 08:56:51 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
omega
Oops!

http://youtu.be/-NpD8RFl3zQ

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The Todal
2017-04-21 11:30:33 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
omega
Oops!
http://youtu.be/-NpD8RFl3zQ
Thanks for that.

The title to the Youtube video is "Andrew Neil destroys Gina Miller". I
think that is the sort of language we've come to expect from fanatical
Kippers, who derive what little political vocabulary they have from the
terraces of football games.

Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.

Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.

I'm amused by your description of Miller as a "nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap" which conveniently combines sexism and ignorance. I don't
think you'd describe Farage as a spoiled little boy having a yap,
because you'd assume that as a man and the head of his household, he's
in charge of his wealth. But Gina Miller has courageously done more for
British democracy and for "taking back control" than Farage, Neil or
indeed Theresa May. And in that interview she was plainly the most
intelligent person in the room.

Ann Widdecombe is plainly delighted to be summoned to so many TV studios
to be asked her opinion on Brexit, a subject that she is uniquely
unqualified to speak about. "What is a soft Brexit?" she asks, as if she
hasn't done her revision. She's in favour of a Brexit vote which
eventually presents Parliament with one deal, take it or leave it, with
no option to tell Theresa May to go back and try again. She knows
nothing about economics or business. A devout Catholic, she lives on her
own with her beloved cats (she has also adopted some goats, far less
trouble than a husband), watching old recordings of Doctor Finlay's
Casebook and enjoying whatever limelight she can get.
Norman Wells
2017-04-21 12:31:00 UTC
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http://youtu.be/-NpD8RFl3zQ
Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.

I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
Yellow
2017-04-21 12:48:32 UTC
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http://youtu.be/-NpD8RFl3zQ
Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.
I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
I know that last question is not aimed at me, but....

I had forgotten about Chuka. I was thinking that Benn was the Labour
Party's way out but of course, they also have Chuka.

And how different our political landscape would now be if Chuka had not
stepped down before and had managed to win.

I see in the papers though, that they say Yvette Cooper is being groomed
for leadership.
The Todal
2017-04-21 19:23:11 UTC
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Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.
I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
My Momentum troops wouldn't vote for Chuka.

That's mainly because Chuka proved himself to be disloyal and too keen
to accuse the Labour Party of institutional antisemitism.

Chuka can consider himself chucked.
Norman Wells
2017-04-21 20:50:52 UTC
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Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.
I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
My Momentum troops wouldn't vote for Chuka.
That's mainly because Chuka proved himself to be disloyal and too keen
to accuse the Labour Party of institutional antisemitism.
Chuka can consider himself chucked.
That's Labour in terminal decline then.
The Todal
2017-04-21 21:18:14 UTC
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Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.
I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
My Momentum troops wouldn't vote for Chuka.
That's mainly because Chuka proved himself to be disloyal and too keen
to accuse the Labour Party of institutional antisemitism.
Chuka can consider himself chucked.
That's Labour in terminal decline then.
Try not to lose sleep over it.

I wonder if that nice Jacob Rees-Mogg is ready to challenge for the Tory
leadership, given that by the end of this year it will be apparent to
the nation that Theresa May is an incompetent bungler. Jacob seems to me
potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to the centrist
Tory membership. What's your view?
Norman Wells
2017-04-21 21:29:26 UTC
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Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.
I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the
election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
My Momentum troops wouldn't vote for Chuka.
That's mainly because Chuka proved himself to be disloyal and too keen
to accuse the Labour Party of institutional antisemitism.
Chuka can consider himself chucked.
That's Labour in terminal decline then.
Try not to lose sleep over it.
I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the next
leader of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately after the
election, as all losing leaders do.
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I wonder if that nice Jacob Rees-Mogg is ready to challenge for the Tory
leadership, given that by the end of this year it will be apparent to
the nation that Theresa May is an incompetent bungler. Jacob seems to me
potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to the centrist
Tory membership. What's your view?
Well, there won't be a vacancy for at least the next 5 years, and
probably 10, so it's a bit premature.

His loyalty to Mrs May in the meantime is unimpeachable.
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2017-04-23 09:44:48 UTC
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Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.
I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the
election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
My Momentum troops wouldn't vote for Chuka.
That's mainly because Chuka proved himself to be disloyal and too keen
to accuse the Labour Party of institutional antisemitism.
Chuka can consider himself chucked.
That's Labour in terminal decline then.
Try not to lose sleep over it.
I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the next leader
of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately after the election, as
all losing leaders do.
only recent history

there is no reason why he wont try to turn the clock back

tim
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2017-04-23 12:44:49 UTC
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I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the next
leader of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately after the
election, as all losing leaders do.
Take cover! Tony Blair just said he was thinking of returning to
politics. Can he afford to lose all those speech payments, though?
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I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the next
leader of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately after the
election, as all losing leaders do.
Take cover! Tony Blair just said he was thinking of returning to
politics. Can he afford to lose all those speech payments, though?

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I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the next
leader of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately after the
election, as all losing leaders do.
Take cover! Tony Blair just said he was thinking of returning to
politics. Can he afford to lose all those speech payments, though?
I was just reading about that.

Apparently Brexiters have hijacked politics, what with the winning and
all that.
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I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the next
leader of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately after the
election, as all losing leaders do.
Take cover! Tony Blair just said he was thinking of returning to
politics. Can he afford to lose all those speech payments, though?
I was just reading about that.

Apparently Brexiters have hijacked politics, what with the winning and
all that.

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I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the
next leader of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately
after the election, as all losing leaders do.
Take cover! Tony Blair just said he was thinking of returning to
politics. Can he afford to lose all those speech payments, though?
I was just reading about that.
Apparently Brexiters have hijacked politics, what with the winning and
all that.
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It's that pesky Democracy stuff again.
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I won't. But I'm interested to know who you think will be the
next leader of the Labour Party when Corbyn resigns immediately
after the election, as all losing leaders do.
Take cover! Tony Blair just said he was thinking of returning to
politics. Can he afford to lose all those speech payments, though?
I was just reading about that.
Apparently Brexiters have hijacked politics, what with the winning and
all that.
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It's that pesky Democracy stuff again.


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Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
That's because neither of them was answering the questions he put, but
just going off on their own self-aggrandising agendas.
I just wonder if Chuka thinks he's old enough now to challenge for the
Labour leadership following Corbyn's resignation after the election? He
seems to me potentially electable but far too right wing to appeal to
the Trotskyite membership and Unions. What's your view?
My Momentum troops wouldn't vote for Chuka.
That's mainly because Chuka proved himself to be disloyal and too keen
to accuse the Labour Party of institutional antisemitism.
Chuka can consider himself chucked.
There is no one I would vote for. Corbyn came nearest but he will not
stop immigration so I will not vote this time.
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2017-04-21 17:05:06 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
omega
Oops!
http://youtu.be/-NpD8RFl3zQ
Thanks for that.
The title to the Youtube video is "Andrew Neil destroys Gina Miller". I
think that is the sort of language we've come to expect from fanatical
Kippers, who derive what little political vocabulary they have from the
terraces of football games.
Gina Miller is a businesswoman and an expert in finance and pensions.
She therefore knows rather more about economics than, say, Nigel Farage
who dabbled in commodities at the London Metal Exchange when he was a
young lad, before moving to his chosen vocation of telling the EU why we
no longer need it.
Andrew Neil is an expert on nothing at all - a hack journalist who
devises witty questions in advance of an interview and is quite hopeless
at adapting to the answers he gets. He simply repeats his aggressive
questions, pretending to be a barrister questioning a reluctant witness.
And like any pretend barrister, he never lets any witness finish
speaking before he interrupts - same when he was speaking to Chuka
Umunna. He tries to look clever by ensuring that nobody else manages to
put their views across.
I'm amused by your description of Miller as a "nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap" which conveniently combines sexism and ignorance. I don't
think you'd describe Farage as a spoiled little boy having a yap,
because you'd assume that as a man and the head of his household, he's
in charge of his wealth. But Gina Miller has courageously done more for
British democracy and for "taking back control" than Farage, Neil or
indeed Theresa May. And in that interview she was plainly the most
intelligent person in the room.
Ann Widdecombe is plainly delighted to be summoned to so many TV studios
to be asked her opinion on Brexit, a subject that she is uniquely
unqualified to speak about. "What is a soft Brexit?" she asks, as if she
hasn't done her revision. She's in favour of a Brexit vote which
eventually presents Parliament with one deal, take it or leave it, with
no option to tell Theresa May to go back and try again. She knows
nothing about economics or business. A devout Catholic, she lives on her
own with her beloved cats (she has also adopted some goats, far less
trouble than a husband), watching old recordings of Doctor Finlay's
Casebook and enjoying whatever limelight she can get.
As it happens Toodles, I'm no fan of Neil whatsoever either. I don't
put Miller in this category but when I had television, he did
occasionally get quite able interviewees but the brazen sod would never
let them finish a sentence though well on cue and pertinent to what he'd
asked only seconds earlier. I don't like the term bully applied to one
who is purporting towards investigative journalism but he applies the
heavy hand many times over when not needed.

Very courageous of Miller to take the Government all the way to the
Supreme Court AND win her cause, but her chasing publicity now, and I
have to admit, I'm not sure what, puts her in rich spoiled brat mode for
me. Last night, with Neil, she displayed herself as not really knowing
what her goal is, do you know? Had I not known who she was last night,
she certainly broke down very easily, into a woman with 'attitude', but
then, how many would endure a slob as Neil.

A damn fine looking woman by the way, but don't want you running the
idea, I'm ignorant.

Widdicombe on the other hand had no redeeming qualities, did she ever?

omega
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2017-04-21 08:29:24 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
See what you're missing by ridiculously avoiding television!
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke or
perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
Yep

she tried to justify that by saying "I have a full time career" and my
response to that was, so this must be a hobby then, you stupid little woman

tim
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
It was. :-)

And of course he is right.

But, before I get flamed, that doesn't mean it is not her right to do
what she is doing.
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
You'll just have to try to keep up however you can.
Okay, so I should have looked here first but only exemplifies why I got
rid of my television, Gina Miller, Ann Widdicombe, what nauseating shrews!
Was it just me but I could hear Millers' teeth clicking while she spoke
or perhaps some distant click language still inherent in her genes.
Generally I live debate but this was just a nasty spoiled little girl
having a yap.
Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
It was. :-)

And of course he is right.

But, before I get flamed, that doesn't mean it is not her right to do
what she is doing.

===

Why would you be flamed??? Pah, they can flame me too in that case because
I agree!

I don't know if you have come across Idris Francis? He runs a mailing
group. He has politicians, businessmen et al in the group and Miller's
company was investigated. I am afraid she isn't doing too well for all her
boasts. It might be her husband who is financing some ofit, but it also
seems there is group funding.
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Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
It was. :-)
And of course he is right.
But, before I get flamed, that doesn't mean it is not her right to do
what she is doing.
===
Why would you be flamed??? Pah, they can flame me too in that case because
I agree!
I could just see it coming. :-)

I did think though it was a good interview, hearing what she had to say.
But I did agree, as we have all said before, that her clear aim is to
stop Brexit and all this "I just want it done right" bollocks is just
that - bollocks.

She would be respected more, and probably get more support, if she was
honest - not least because of the irony that her stance is that she
wants to keep Mrs May "honest".
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I don't know if you have come across Idris Francis? He runs a mailing
group. He has politicians, businessmen et al in the group and Miller's
company was investigated. I am afraid she isn't doing too well for all her
boasts. It might be her husband who is financing some ofit, but it also
seems there is group funding.
I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
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Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
It was. :-)
And of course he is right.
But, before I get flamed, that doesn't mean it is not her right to do
what she is doing.
===
Why would you be flamed??? Pah, they can flame me too in that case because
I agree!
I could just see it coming. :-)

I did think though it was a good interview, hearing what she had to say.
But I did agree, as we have all said before, that her clear aim is to
stop Brexit and all this "I just want it done right" bollocks is just
that - bollocks.

She would be respected more, and probably get more support, if she was
honest - not least because of the irony that her stance is that she
wants to keep Mrs May "honest".
Post by Yellow
I don't know if you have come across Idris Francis? He runs a mailing
group. He has politicians, businessmen et al in the group and Miller's
company was investigated. I am afraid she isn't doing too well for all her
boasts. It might be her husband who is financing some ofit, but it also
seems there is group funding.
I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.

==

Yes. So we have to look at her saying 'it is all my own money' and bow down
to her ... spit!
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Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
It was. :-)
And of course he is right.
But, before I get flamed, that doesn't mean it is not her right to do
what she is doing.
===
Why would you be flamed??? Pah, they can flame me too in that case because
I agree!
I could just see it coming. :-)
I did think though it was a good interview, hearing what she had to say.
But I did agree, as we have all said before, that her clear aim is to
stop Brexit and all this "I just want it done right" bollocks is just
that - bollocks.
She would be respected more, and probably get more support, if she was
honest - not least because of the irony that her stance is that she
wants to keep Mrs May "honest".
Post by Yellow
I don't know if you have come across Idris Francis? He runs a mailing
group. He has politicians, businessmen et al in the group and Miller's
company was investigated. I am afraid she isn't doing too well for all her
boasts. It might be her husband who is financing some ofit, but it also
seems there is group funding.
I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Many thanks. The page is here, and I've now
contributed a hundred quid.

https://www.gofundme.com/whats-best-for-britain
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I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Many thanks. The page is here, and I've now
contributed a hundred quid.
https://www.gofundme.com/whats-best-for-britain
The page says -> We are a group of campaigners and public-minded people
who are crowdfunding to get people to use their vote tactically.

I wonder how that is going they are going to do that? Pick their
preferred candidate and then leaflet people? Will be interesting to see
how they go about it, and whether it works or whether it pisses people
off.
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I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Many thanks. The page is here, and I've now
contributed a hundred quid.
https://www.gofundme.com/whats-best-for-britain
The page says -> We are a group of campaigners and public-minded people
who are crowdfunding to get people to use their vote tactically.
I wonder how that is going they are going to do that? Pick their
preferred candidate and then leaflet people? Will be interesting to see
how they go about it, and whether it works or whether it pisses people
off.
It certainly pisses me off but then, I don't count, I already have a
mind of my own.

If I pretend for a moment I'm a dithering idiot and needed a push one
way or the other, oh go on then, it still pisses me off.

I believe many of these radical campaigners simply don't think things
through, not dissimilar from the end of the world scenarios the
Remainers reported prior to the Referendum.

As I've said elsewhere, I haven't had a lively interest in politics, the
whole of my adult life and my first vote ever was for Brexit in the
Referendum.

When they flew in the twat Obama to tell us all, with an arrogant
snigger on his jug eared countenance, "leave, and you go to the back of
the queue", he marked my cross there and then!

Miller will send hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, to the very
opposite camp she had hoped and all beautifully paid for, by The Madding
Crowd.

Oh what glee!

omega
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I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Many thanks. The page is here, and I've now
contributed a hundred quid.
https://www.gofundme.com/whats-best-for-britain
The page says -> We are a group of campaigners and public-minded people
who are crowdfunding to get people to use their vote tactically.
I wonder how that is going they are going to do that? Pick their
preferred candidate and then leaflet people? Will be interesting to see
how they go about it, and whether it works or whether it pisses people
off.
It certainly pisses me off but then, I don't count, I already have a
mind of my own.
If I pretend for a moment I'm a dithering idiot and needed a push one
way or the other, oh go on then, it still pisses me off.
I believe many of these radical campaigners simply don't think things
through, not dissimilar from the end of the world scenarios the
Remainers reported prior to the Referendum.
What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?

As far as I am aware, the end of the world scenarios allegedly
reported by the Remainers, were actually invented by Leavers
trying to discredit the Remain camp. Eg.:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/669189/EU-referendum-Boris-Johnson-David-Cameron-totally-demented-scaremongering-Brexit
May 11, 2016

'... Mr Johnson said: ... “I think all this talk of World War Three and
bubonic plague is totally demented frankly.”

Boris was the only one talking of WW3 and bubonic plague.
Post by Omega
As I've said elsewhere, I haven't had a lively interest in politics, the
whole of my adult life and my first vote ever was for Brexit in the
Referendum.
When they flew in the twat Obama to tell us all, with an arrogant
snigger on his jug eared countenance, "leave, and you go to the back of
the queue", he marked my cross there and then!
Miller will send hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, to the very
opposite camp she had hoped and all beautifully paid for, by The Madding
Crowd.
Oh what glee!
omega
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I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Many thanks. The page is here, and I've now
contributed a hundred quid.
https://www.gofundme.com/whats-best-for-britain
The page says -> We are a group of campaigners and public-minded people
who are crowdfunding to get people to use their vote tactically.
I wonder how that is going they are going to do that? Pick their
preferred candidate and then leaflet people? Will be interesting to see
how they go about it, and whether it works or whether it pisses people
off.
It certainly pisses me off but then, I don't count, I already have a
mind of my own.
If I pretend for a moment I'm a dithering idiot and needed a push one
way or the other, oh go on then, it still pisses me off.
I believe many of these radical campaigners simply don't think things
through, not dissimilar from the end of the world scenarios the
Remainers reported prior to the Referendum.
What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?
As far as I am aware, the end of the world scenarios allegedly
reported by the Remainers, were actually invented by Leavers
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/669189/EU-referendum-Boris-Johnson-David-Cameron-totally-demented-scaremongering-Brexit
May 11, 2016
'... Mr Johnson said: ... “I think all this talk of World War Three and
bubonic plague is totally demented frankly.”
Boris was the only one talking of WW3 and bubonic plague.
Post by Omega
As I've said elsewhere, I haven't had a lively interest in politics, the
whole of my adult life and my first vote ever was for Brexit in the
Referendum.
When they flew in the twat Obama to tell us all, with an arrogant
snigger on his jug eared countenance, "leave, and you go to the back of
the queue", he marked my cross there and then!
Miller will send hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, to the very
opposite camp she had hoped and all beautifully paid for, by The Madding
Crowd.
Oh what glee!
omega
You're not making sense Hammy.

Cameron *was* a Remainer. His government spent £9,000,000 of our tax
money telling us so!

I have read and re-read your post, have you just scored a home goal?
Perhaps you're having an early slurp?

omega
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What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?
Don't you get bored, keep posting this same thing over and over?

I ask because I am sure people have got bored giving you answers that
you then seem to simply disregard.
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What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?
Don't you get bored, keep posting this same thing over and over?
Yes I do, but then I didn't start it. Most recently Omega posted
(which you snipped for some reason):
on Saturday, 22 April 2017 08:42:27 UTC+1:

'I believe many of these radical campaigners simply don't think things
through, not dissimilar from the end of the world scenarios the
Remainers reported prior to the Referendum.'

So it seems Leavers don't get bored, posting this same thing over
and over. Perhaps they just do it to provoke.
I ask because I am sure people have got bored giving you answers that
you then seem to simply disregard.
I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
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What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?
Don't you get bored, keep posting this same thing over and over?
Yes I do.
Then......
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What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?
Don't you get bored, keep posting this same thing over and over?
Yes I do.
Then......

==

In which case and since you know that is all he will post, he isn't worth
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What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?
Don't you get bored, keep posting this same thing over and over?
Yes I do.
Then......
Goodness, you seem snarky. It seem you can't bring yourself to
respond directly to any of the points I raised, but instead try and
twist my words by means of selective snipping and changing the
punctuation. Weird.
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What end of the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly
report prior to the Referendum? I suppose a cite would be
out of the question?
Don't you get bored, keep posting this same thing over and over?
Yes I do.
Then......
Goodness, you seem snarky. It seem you can't bring yourself to
respond directly to any of the points I raised, but instead try and
twist my words by means of selective snipping and changing the
punctuation. Weird.
Say something new and I will be happy to spend time replying. :-)
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting their
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting their
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
Oh I see, thanks. I wouldn't describe that as an end of the world
scenario though, it's quite a long way short of that. More like a
dose of economic flu.

And all of that could still happen over the next decade or two. Or
it might not, Brexit might turn out to be a good thing. I'm not all
that optimistic about that personally, but time will tell. Either way,
we will survive.
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting their
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
Oh I see, thanks. I wouldn't describe that as an end of the world
scenario though, it's quite a long way short of that. More like a
dose of economic flu.
Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers' money on Pro-EU Referendum
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Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting
their
Post by pensive hamster
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
Oh I see, thanks. I wouldn't describe that as an end of the world
scenario though, it's quite a long way short of that. More like a
dose of economic flu.
Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers' money on Pro-EU Referendum
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Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
That wasn't me predicting doom. It was the IMF and Barack Obama.

You may have noticed over the weekend that Donald Trump has decided to
put the UK further back in the queue, behind the EU, when it comes to
any trade deals made by the USA. That was the scenario that Barack Obama
warned us about, and the Leavers said that he was interfering and had no
right to tell us what US policy would be, in case people changed their
vote.

It was important to the Leavers that the electorate should dismiss all
the advice from "experts" (as advised by Michael Gove) and should vote
purely on the basis of reducing immigration, getting huge sums of extra
dosh for the NHS and stopping those queues of refugees from coming into
England's green and pleasant land.
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
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Referendum?'
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Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
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Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
That wasn't me predicting doom. It was the IMF and Barack Obama.
Whatever and whoever. I was just answering the question PH asked.
Post by The Todal
You may have noticed over the weekend that Donald Trump has decided to
put the UK further back in the queue, behind the EU, when it comes to
any trade deals made by the USA.
You mean the front lead of Saturday's Times? Yes, I read it, and never
have I seen such a load of bollocks. There was not *one* single quote in
the article that supported the headline in any way whatsoever.
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
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Referendum?'
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Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
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Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
That wasn't me predicting doom. It was the IMF and Barack Obama.
Whatever and whoever. I was just answering the question PH asked.
Post by The Todal
You may have noticed over the weekend that Donald Trump has decided to
put the UK further back in the queue, behind the EU, when it comes to
any trade deals made by the USA.
You mean the front lead of Saturday's Times? Yes, I read it, and never
have I seen such a load of bollocks. There was not *one* single quote in
the article that supported the headline in any way whatsoever.
Farage said on LBC today that he doesn't "believe it", so that's okay
then. I mean, as a close buddy of Trump and groom of the king's stool,
he'd know.
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You may have noticed over the weekend that Donald Trump has decided to
put the UK further back in the queue, behind the EU, when it comes to
any trade deals made by the USA.
You mean the front lead of Saturday's Times? Yes, I read it, and never
have I seen such a load of bollocks. There was not *one* single quote in
the article that supported the headline in any way whatsoever.
Farage said on LBC today that he doesn't "believe it", so that's okay
then. I mean, as a close buddy of Trump and groom of the king's stool,
he'd know.
More likely he did what I did, read the article and dismissed it as
worthless propaganda. And (nod to PH) another example of groundless
doom-mongering.
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting
their
Post by pensive hamster
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
Oh I see, thanks. I wouldn't describe that as an end of the world
scenario though, it's quite a long way short of that. More like a
dose of economic flu.
Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers' money on Pro-EU Referendum
Post by pensive hamster
Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
That wasn't me predicting doom. It was the IMF and Barack Obama.
You may have noticed over the weekend that Donald Trump has decided to put
the UK further back in the queue, behind the EU, when it comes to any
trade deals made by the USA.
after being asked the question 11 times before giving that answer

it is clear that he simply said what the other side wanted to hear so that
he didn't get asked the question for a 12th time

(and no I haven't made that up)

tim
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting their
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
Oh I see, thanks. I wouldn't describe that as an end of the world
scenario though, it's quite a long way short of that. More like a
dose of economic flu.
Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers' money on Pro-EU Referendum
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Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
I don't want to speak for The Todal, but I'm pretty sure he was
using the word "doom" in the sense of the phrase "doom and
gloom" - "A general feeling of pessimism or despondency",
rather than literally in the sense of "Death, destruction, or some
other terrible fate."

Definitions from:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/doom

So I don't think that counts as "an end of the world scenario",
not unless you are deliberately misinterpreting what The Todal
wrote.
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2017-04-24 17:35:35 UTC
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting their
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
Oh I see, thanks. I wouldn't describe that as an end of the world
scenario though, it's quite a long way short of that. More like a
dose of economic flu.
Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers' money on Pro-EU Referendum
Post by pensive hamster
Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
I don't want to speak for The Todal, but I'm pretty sure he was
using the word "doom" in the sense of the phrase "doom and
gloom" - "A general feeling of pessimism or despondency",
rather than literally in the sense of "Death, destruction, or some
other terrible fate."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/doom
So I don't think that counts as "an end of the world scenario",
not unless you are deliberately misinterpreting what The Todal
wrote.
Or you are. I just did what you asked - twice, in detail, and with
precise sources. Sorry to have wasted my valuable time.
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2017-04-26 16:19:11 UTC
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I can't remember anyone ever answering the question 'What end of
the world scenarios did the Remainers allegedly report prior to the
Referendum?'
Let's suppose for the sake of argument there is a narrow Brexit
vote and as predicted by just about every major source of
economic wisdom (PWC, LSE, IMF, OECD, Treasury, BoE etc.
etc.) there is a sterling crisis, interest rates, unemployment and
inflation shoot up, major players announce that they are shifting their
factories and or HQ's out of the UK), EU states announce import
tariffs and bans (e.g. no UK lamb for France) and so on.
Oh I see, thanks. I wouldn't describe that as an end of the world
scenario though, it's quite a long way short of that. More like a
dose of economic flu.
Ah, here's another. Posted by the Todal in uk.legal thread "Re: Petition
STOP CAMERON spending British taxpayers' money on Pro-EU Referendum
Post by pensive hamster
Do you find it easy to dismiss the views of the IMF and the USA,
predicting doom for the UK economy and the world economy if the
UK leaves the EC?
I don't want to speak for The Todal, but I'm pretty sure he was
using the word "doom" in the sense of the phrase "doom and
gloom" - "A general feeling of pessimism or despondency",
rather than literally in the sense of "Death, destruction, or some
other terrible fate."
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/doom
So I don't think that counts as "an end of the world scenario",
not unless you are deliberately misinterpreting what The Todal
wrote.
Or you are. I just did what you asked - twice, in detail, and with
precise sources. Sorry to have wasted my valuable time.
Well, thanks for posting the quotes, anyway. I don't agree
that they represent end of the world scenarios, so I guess
we'll just have to agree to disagree.
tim...
2017-04-28 09:52:02 UTC
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Well, thanks for posting the quotes, anyway. I don't agree
that they represent end of the world scenarios,
Well if you don't think they represent end of the world scenarios, why are
Remoaners so worried that they will happen then?

tim

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2017-04-22 15:41:04 UTC
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I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Many thanks. The page is here, and I've now
contributed a hundred quid.
https://www.gofundme.com/whats-best-for-britain
The page says -> We are a group of campaigners and public-minded people
who are crowdfunding to get people to use their vote tactically.
I wonder how that is going they are going to do that? Pick their
preferred candidate and then leaflet people? Will be interesting to see
how they go about it, and whether it works or whether it pisses people
off.
It certainly pisses me off but then, I don't count, I already have a
mind of my own.
If I pretend for a moment I'm a dithering idiot and needed a push one
way or the other, oh go on then, it still pisses me off.
I suspect many will feel the same for the same reason, as reported, it
pisses people of when the political parties talk about getting together
to only stand one candidate in their constituency, so as not to split
the vote.

It seems British folk inherently rebel to this sort of thing.
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I believe many of these radical campaigners simply don't think things
through, not dissimilar from the end of the world scenarios the
Remainers reported prior to the Referendum.
As I've said elsewhere, I haven't had a lively interest in politics, the
whole of my adult life and my first vote ever was for Brexit in the
Referendum.
When they flew in the twat Obama to tell us all, with an arrogant
snigger on his jug eared countenance, "leave, and you go to the back of
the queue", he marked my cross there and then!
Miller will send hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, to the very
opposite camp she had hoped and all beautifully paid for, by The Madding
Crowd.
Oh what glee!
It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
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2017-04-23 09:46:26 UTC
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Neils', "Is this a rich womans' hobby" was mildly entertaining mind.
It was. :-)
And of course he is right.
But, before I get flamed, that doesn't mean it is not her right to do
what she is doing.
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Why would you be flamed??? Pah, they can flame me too in that case because
I agree!
I could just see it coming. :-)
I did think though it was a good interview, hearing what she had to say.
But I did agree, as we have all said before, that her clear aim is to
stop Brexit and all this "I just want it done right" bollocks is just
that - bollocks.
She would be respected more, and probably get more support, if she was
honest - not least because of the irony that her stance is that she
wants to keep Mrs May "honest".
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I don't know if you have come across Idris Francis? He runs a mailing
group. He has politicians, businessmen et al in the group and Miller's
company was investigated. I am afraid she isn't doing too well for all her
boasts. It might be her husband who is financing some ofit, but it also
seems there is group funding.
I saw though that this latest venture is being crowd funded.
Ah, I hadn't noticed that. Many thanks. The page is here, and I've now
contributed a hundred quid.
money down the drain

whatever else your politics, surely you can see that a fund for
"encouraging" tactical voting is never going to have any effect

tim
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https://www.gofundme.com/whats-best-for-britain
Yellow
2017-04-21 11:41:39 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
And for those of us who don't have television?
Read a book? Go out for a walk?
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2017-04-21 08:44:09 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.

Worth a look.

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Please give me a link!!! I would like to see that:))
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2017-04-21 08:49:16 UTC
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
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Please give me a link!!! I would like to see that:))
There a Utube link in my 09:23 post

omega
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Andrew Neil interviewed Gina Miller on last night's This Week.
Worth a look.
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Please give me a link!!! I would like to see that:))
There a Utube link in my 09:23 post

omega

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