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25 things that are more expensive since Brexit
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MM
2017-11-06 08:39:14 UTC
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!

And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/

1.LEGO prices up five per cent
2. Marmite up 12.5 per cent at Morrisons
3. Costly condiments, including Coleman's mustard and Hellman's mayo
4. Christmas pudding up 21 per cent
5. Primary school lunch £20 more expensive
6. Price of bananas rise for first time in five years
7. Fish fingers to get stinkingly more expensive next year
8. Walkers crisps set for 10 per cent price hike
9. Typhoo Tea 50 per cent more
10. Maltesers packets are shrinking
11. Mind the gap: Toblerone changes to reduce weight
12. Average basket of goods goes up (by 2.7% to end 2017)
13. Turkeys up three per cent
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
15. Washing machine manufacturers increase prices
16. Comic book issues to go up from Jan (2017)
17. Car prices, including Vauxhall models, to go up
18. New Apple macbooks cost a staggering £2k
19. Dell and HP computers raise prices
20. Customers forking out more for holidays
21. Mr Kipling cakes could get more expensive
22. Drinkers to shell out 29p more for wine
23. Milk supplies under pressure
24. Olive oil prices sky-high
25. Holiday money means less bang for your buck abroad

And the items that are cheaper since Brexit...

Mince pies
Ryanair fares

Apart from the price rises due to Brexit, the economy is struggling,
with the worst growth rate in the EU, wages are stagnating, except for
the already-rich, and there's just been the first interest rate rise
in 10 years due to inflation having reached 3%.

As Yellow might put it, "Good innit!"

MM
Ian Jackson
2017-11-06 10:52:15 UTC
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And the items that are cheaper since Brexit...
Mince pies
That's a bugger! I've got some at the back of the freezer. They must be
at least five years old, and I was hoping they would go up in value.
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The Other Mike
2017-11-06 13:12:14 UTC
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352

Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand

https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf

Brexit really has SFA to do with it

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Ian Jackson
2017-11-06 13:18:47 UTC
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Brexit really has SFA to do with it
As I've said on several occasions, in the next few years whatever
happens that is 'good' will be because of Brexit. Whatever happens that
is 'bad' will have nothing to do with Brexit.
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tim...
2017-11-06 15:28:31 UTC
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Post by The Other Mike
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
As I've said on several occasions, in the next few years whatever happens
that is 'good' will be because of Brexit. Whatever happens that is 'bad'
will have nothing to do with Brexit.
I think you've got that the wrong way around

tim
abelard
2017-11-06 17:38:59 UTC
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Brexit really has SFA to do with it
As I've said on several occasions, in the next few years whatever happens
that is 'good' will be because of Brexit. Whatever happens that is 'bad'
will have nothing to do with Brexit.
I think you've got that the wrong way around
if he were honest...it may be correct...

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MM
2017-11-07 12:02:21 UTC
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Brexit really has SFA to do with it
As I've said on several occasions, in the next few years whatever happens
that is 'good' will be because of Brexit. Whatever happens that is 'bad'
will have nothing to do with Brexit.
I think you've got that the wrong way around
No, he's speaking from the point of view of a Brexiter.

Read it again, then you'll understand.

MM
tim...
2017-11-07 14:03:03 UTC
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Post by The Other Mike
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
As I've said on several occasions, in the next few years whatever happens
that is 'good' will be because of Brexit. Whatever happens that is 'bad'
will have nothing to do with Brexit.
I think you've got that the wrong way around
No, he's speaking from the point of view of a Brexiter.
No he was pretending to be speaking from the POV of a Brexiteer

But he was wrong, we don't think like that at all.

Many of us are quite happy to accept that some future things will be worse
because of Brexuit. We consider them a price worth paying for the
advantages
Post by MM
Read it again, then you'll understand.
I think I understood perfectly well, thank you very much

I am disagreeing with him on the fundamental point he was making

tim
R. Mark Clayton
2017-11-07 14:29:10 UTC
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SNIP
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Many of us are quite happy to accept that some future things will be worse
because of Brexuit. We consider them a price worth paying for the
advantages
About the only advantage I can see is happy racists, and I supposed several thousand jobsworths getting paid wages for currently unnecessary bureaucracy.
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Post by MM
Read it again, then you'll understand.
I think I understood perfectly well, thank you very much
I am disagreeing with him on the fundamental point he was making
tim
tim...
2017-11-07 15:58:54 UTC
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Post by tim...
Many of us are quite happy to accept that some future things will be worse
because of Brexuit. We consider them a price worth paying for the
advantages
About the only advantage I can see is happy racists, and I supposed
several thousand jobsworths getting paid wages for currently unnecessary
bureaucracy.
then you haven't been listening to the arguments, have you?

no wonder you opinion is so bigoted

tim
pamela
2017-11-08 21:03:10 UTC
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Post by The Other Mike
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
As I've said on several occasions, in the next few years
whatever happens
that is 'good' will be because of Brexit. Whatever happens
that is 'bad' will have nothing to do with Brexit.
I think you've got that the wrong way around
No, he's speaking from the point of view of a Brexiter.
No he was pretending to be speaking from the POV of a Brexiteer
But he was wrong, we don't think like that at all.
Many of us are quite happy to accept that some future things
will be worse because of Brexuit. We consider them a price
worth paying for the advantages
Most things will be worse. What advantages do you have in mind?
R. Mark Clayton
2017-11-06 15:45:00 UTC
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
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Ash Burton
2017-11-06 15:56:28 UTC
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Post by MM
And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
Post by The Other Mike
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.

There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.

It is an opportunity for home producers to increase production but wiil
they? Pigs might fly!
R. Mark Clayton
2017-11-06 16:24:08 UTC
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Post by MM
And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.
And the **** exchange rate after the referendum
Post by Ash Burton
There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.
Without tariffs and both import and export controls it will sell at around the world price.
Post by Ash Burton
It is an opportunity for home producers to increase production but wiil
they? Pigs might fly!
Bullocks - that's part of the problem.

To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.

Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
Ash Burton
2017-11-06 16:46:52 UTC
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
Post by The Other Mike
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.
And the **** exchange rate after the referendum
Post by Ash Burton
There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.
Without tariffs and both import and export controls it will sell at around the world price.
Post by Ash Burton
It is an opportunity for home producers to increase production but wiil
they? Pigs might fly!
Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
sid@hits.com
2017-11-06 16:53:53 UTC
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-warning-arla/

Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.


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R. Mark Clayton
2017-11-06 22:24:30 UTC
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-warning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
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Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly following and as a result of the leave vote.
Ash Burton
2017-11-10 15:59:20 UTC
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-warning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
--
Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact of the
leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as butter where there
is no imported element.
R. Mark Clayton
2017-11-10 16:39:04 UTC
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-warning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
--
Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact of the
leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as butter where there
is no imported element.
Which planet do you live on?

I live on planet earth - you can move goods around. When the price of a commodity changes or the exchange rate of a currency moves substantially (like the 10% fall in the pound) then the price of the commodity changes in the domestic market because either the imported element will cost more in pounds (e.g. wine, tea, coffee, cocoa of which is negligible UK production) or because more is exported (butter, fish e.g. salmon, meat). Obviously low value goods, like potatoes, will be affected less because of the cost of transport, but to imagine that goods produced in the UK are only sold here and are unaffected by fluctuations in the world price and / or exchange rates is naive indeed.
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2017-11-10 16:51:14 UTC
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-warning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
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Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact of the
leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as butter where there
is no imported element.
Which planet do you live on?
I live on planet earth - you can move goods around. When the price of
a commodity changes or the exchange rate of a currency moves
substantially (like the 10% fall in the pound) then the price of the
commodity changes in the domestic market because either the imported
element will cost more in pounds (e.g. wine, tea, coffee, cocoa of
which is negligible UK production) or because more is exported
(butter, fish e.g. salmon, meat). Obviously low value goods, like
potatoes, will be affected less because of the cost of transport, but
to imagine that goods produced in the UK are only sold here and are
unaffected by fluctuations in the world price and / or exchange rates
is naive indeed.
I have noticed two thing increase in price - Tesco own brand Marmite and
Laughing Cow cheese spread and can't say anything else has jumped out at
me.

It helps that I buy most of my shopping when it is on offer, including
the Laughing Cow cheese spread, but there has certainly been no increase
on the fresh salad or vegetables that I buy, nor on the frozen veg.

Bought a couple of fresh chicken breasts in Tesco last week for £1.89
and I am sure they were 2 quid last time, and my green tea is still 75p
for 50 bags in Asda and coffee beans in Sainsburys are still £2 a pack.

I am not trying to say some prices are rising as some must be because of
the exchange rate but it is no where near as dramatic as some people are
trying to make out.
MM
2017-11-11 08:43:39 UTC
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I am not trying to say some prices are rising as some must be because of
the exchange rate but it is no where near as dramatic as some people are
trying to make out.
It may not be dramatic for people like me who live frugally, don't
have debts, and won't stop buying e.g. butter, just because its price
has almost doubled in a year. I don't need to go without. But many on
tight budgets will have to start counting the pennies, especially
since the recent interest rate rise. I doubt whether such people have
any savings, as it seems most Britons prefer tp spend what they don't
have on credit cards, then borrow at exorbitant rates of interest from
pay-day loan companies.

The fact is that all those on a tight budget ~can~ only blame Brexit
for their worsening situation. For instance, it's unlikely that
inflation would have risen like it did but for Brexit causing large
jumps in import costs.

MM
MM
2017-11-11 08:37:17 UTC
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-warning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
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Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact of the
leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as butter where there
is no imported element.
Of course there are imported elements in butter production, like
animal feed, cost of fuel, general transport costs -- all due to
Brexit. Add the Brexit element and you can see why prices have risen
so much in such a short time.

MM
Ian Jackson
2017-11-11 09:08:45 UTC
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-war
ning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
--
Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities
will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly
following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact of the
leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as butter where there
is no imported element.
Of course there are imported elements in butter production, like
animal feed, cost of fuel, general transport costs -- all due to
Brexit. Add the Brexit element and you can see why prices have risen
so much in such a short time.
Even as a remainer, I haven't noticed (note I said "noticed") any
crippling price rises in my basic shopping bill. Some things even seem
to have gone down. I'm sure Waitrose iceberg lettuces used to be £1 -
but after a substantial hike caused by disastrous weather in Spain, when
it rose to £2, recently the price has been 50p. Their boxed grapes
(usually £2) dropped to £1-60 - and are now £1-80. Cucumbers remain at a
ridiculous 60p. I definitely know that my frozen rice rose to £1-30, but
has now dropped back to £1. Nevertheless, I'm sure that there are some
things where the price HAS risen, and I simply haven't realised -
possibly those where their prices naturally tend to vary a little, or
because they often used to be on some kind of offer.
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Yellow
2017-11-11 18:49:10 UTC
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Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities
will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly
following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact of the
leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as butter where there
is no imported element.
Of course there are imported elements in butter production, like
animal feed, cost of fuel, general transport costs -- all due to
Brexit. Add the Brexit element and you can see why prices have risen
so much in such a short time.
Even as a remainer, I haven't noticed (note I said "noticed") any
crippling price rises in my basic shopping bill.
Your experience is the same as mine and while I want to leave the EU, as
someone on a strict budget, I am not blind to rises.
Post by Ian Jackson
Some things even seem
to have gone down. I'm sure Waitrose iceberg lettuces used to be £1 -
but after a substantial hike caused by disastrous weather in Spain, when
it rose to £2, recently the price has been 50p.
Yes, I have noticed icebergs have dropped too and paid 44p for one in
Lidl the other day which is extraordinary given the time of year.
Post by Ian Jackson
Their boxed grapes
(usually £2) dropped to £1-60 - and are now £1-80. Cucumbers remain at a
ridiculous 60p. I definitely know that my frozen rice rose to £1-30, but
has now dropped back to £1. Nevertheless, I'm sure that there are some
things where the price HAS risen, and I simply haven't realised -
possibly those where their prices naturally tend to vary a little, or
because they often used to be on some kind of offer.
I noticed this week that the cheese I tend to buy if there are no
cheaper offers, Tesco's mature cheddar, has gone up from to £2.70. At
least I think it has gone up as I don't buy it very often but £2.50
rings a bell from last time I bought it.
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-milk-shortage-war
ning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
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Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of commodities
will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly
following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact of the
leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as butter where there
is no imported element.
Of course there are imported elements in butter production, like
animal feed, cost of fuel, general transport costs -- all due to
Brexit. Add the Brexit element and you can see why prices have risen
so much in such a short time.
Even as a remainer, I haven't noticed (note I said "noticed") any
crippling price rises in my basic shopping bill. Some things even seem
to have gone down. I'm sure Waitrose iceberg lettuces used to be £1 -
but after a substantial hike caused by disastrous weather in Spain, when
it rose to £2, recently the price has been 50p. Their boxed grapes
(usually £2) dropped to £1-60 - and are now £1-80. Cucumbers remain at a
ridiculous 60p. I definitely know that my frozen rice rose to £1-30, but
has now dropped back to £1. Nevertheless, I'm sure that there are some
things where the price HAS risen, and I simply haven't realised -
possibly those where their prices naturally tend to vary a little, or
because they often used to be on some kind of offer.
Don't forget that the main supermarkets are really up against it with
the discounters, which are going from strength to strength. I was
amazed the other day in Boston to see the new Lidl store, opening in
2018, under construction. It is MASSIVE! And it's literally a stone's
throw from Tesco Boston. In the newly refurbished and extended Aldi in
Spalding on Friday I could hardly move for shoppers. Sainsbury's by
comparison had only a modicum of customers when I popped in to buy
Warburtons breakfast muffins (the ONLY kind that tastes good).

MM
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Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk
you need more milking cows. To produce another milking cow
you need to breed an existing on, bring its female calf to
maturity, breed it, kill its male calf and then you can
milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their
progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in
price other than producers cashing in because they can but
it has very little to do with Brexit.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/3959673/butter-cream-
milk-shortage-war ning-arla/
Its only Billy Big Pants Clayton spouting remainer bullshit.
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Whatever fluctuations there might be in world price of
commodities
will be 10%+ worse here due to the fall in the pound directly
following and as a result of the leave vote.
Not so for goods produced in the UK, there should be no impact
of the leave vote on the price of UK produced goods such as
butter where there is no imported element.
Of course there are imported elements in butter production, like
animal feed, cost of fuel, general transport costs -- all due
to Brexit. Add the Brexit element and you can see why prices
have risen so much in such a short time.
Even as a remainer, I haven't noticed (note I said "noticed")
any crippling price rises in my basic shopping bill. Some things
even seem to have gone down. I'm sure Waitrose iceberg lettuces
used to be £1 - but after a substantial hike caused by
disastrous weather in Spain, when it rose to £2, recently the
price has been 50p. Their boxed grapes (usually £2) dropped to
£1-60 - and are now £1-80. Cucumbers remain at a ridiculous 60p.
I definitely know that my frozen rice rose to £1-30, but has now
dropped back to £1. Nevertheless, I'm sure that there are some
things where the price HAS risen, and I simply haven't realised
- possibly those where their prices naturally tend to vary a
little, or because they often used to be on some kind of offer.
The rise in food prices was only 4%, so you may not have noticed.

You may not notice the next 4%. Nor the 4% one after that.
However, in the end you will most likely notice.

It was by the same little-by-little process that Britain's
standard of living slipped, decades ago, from its enviable
position to one which was behind many European countries. Now
we're set to repeat that all over again.
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The rise in food prices was only 4%, so you may not have noticed.
You may not notice the next 4%. Nor the 4% one after that.
However, in the end you will most likely notice.
It was by the same little-by-little process that Britain's
standard of living slipped, decades ago, from its enviable
position to one which was behind many European countries. Now
we're set to repeat that all over again.
Two points.

1. The sterling-induced effect on inflation will slowly drop out of prices.

2. Once we are out of the EU, if the government believes it's right do
to so, we will be able to buy food at world prices without the EU's
import tariff.
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Post by pamela
The rise in food prices was only 4%, so you may not have noticed.
You may not notice the next 4%. Nor the 4% one after that.
However, in the end you will most likely notice.
It was by the same little-by-little process that Britain's
standard of living slipped, decades ago, from its enviable
position to one which was behind many European countries. Now
we're set to repeat that all over again.
Two points.
1. The sterling-induced effect on inflation will slowly drop out of prices.
Like the Hike in VAT from 8 & 12% to 15% - yes of course it does - still paying higher prices though.
Post by James Harris
2. Once we are out of the EU, if the government believes it's right do
to so, we will be able to buy food at world prices without the EU's
import tariff.
Does that mean pigs will fly here on budget airlines? Get real!
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Post by pamela
The rise in food prices was only 4%, so you may not have noticed.
You may not notice the next 4%. Nor the 4% one after that.
However, in the end you will most likely notice.
It was by the same little-by-little process that Britain's
standard of living slipped, decades ago, from its enviable
position to one which was behind many European countries. Now
we're set to repeat that all over again.
Two points.
1. The sterling-induced effect on inflation will slowly drop out of prices.
Like the Hike in VAT from 8 & 12% to 15% - yes of course it does - still paying higher prices though.
No.
Post by R. Mark Clayton
Post by James Harris
2. Once we are out of the EU, if the government believes it's right do
to so, we will be able to buy food at world prices without the EU's
import tariff.
Does that mean pigs will fly here on budget airlines? Get real!
Explain what you think is wrong with point 2.
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None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
One of the reasons for the increased cost of butter is that it has been
officially declared that it isn't the killer it was thought to be - and
lots of people have switched from the supposedly 'healthy' alternatives
back to real butter.

This increase in demand has resulted in a general world-wide shortage
and, of course, the inevitable price-rise.

In the UK, the increased demand has led to more butter being imported -
and as the pound is at least 10% down, we're not only paying more
because of the world-wide price, but also because of the exchange rate.
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None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to
do with Brexit.
One of the reasons for the increased cost of butter is that it has been
officially declared that it isn't the killer it was thought to be - and
lots of people have switched from the supposedly 'healthy' alternatives
back to real butter.
This increase in demand has resulted in a general world-wide shortage
and, of course, the inevitable price-rise.
In the UK, the increased demand has led to more butter being imported -
and as the pound is at least 10% down, we're not only paying more
because of the world-wide price, but also because of the exchange rate.
That still doesn't justify british made butter increasing in price.

Furthermore if it had not been for EU milk quotas taking out viable milk
production in the UK we would not have had to import as much.

All the more reason to get out of the EU PDQ.
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None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price
other than producers cashing in because they can but it has very
little to do with Brexit.
One of the reasons for the increased cost of butter is that it has
been officially declared that it isn't the killer it was thought to
be - and lots of people have switched from the supposedly 'healthy'
alternatives back to real butter.
This increase in demand has resulted in a general world-wide
shortage and, of course, the inevitable price-rise.
In the UK, the increased demand has led to more butter being
imported - and as the pound is at least 10% down, we're not only
paying more because of the world-wide price, but also because of the
exchange rate.
That still doesn't justify british made butter increasing in price.
Furthermore if it had not been for EU milk quotas taking out viable
milk production in the UK we would not have had to import as much.
All the more reason to get out of the EU PDQ.
If you were in the butter UK business, would you really charge
substantially less for it in the UK than competitive products from
abroad?
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None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
One of the reasons for the increased cost of butter is that it has been
officially declared that it isn't the killer it was thought to be - and
lots of people have switched from the supposedly 'healthy' alternatives
back to real butter.
Yes, I have done exactly that.

MM
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.
And the **** exchange rate after the referendum
Post by Ash Burton
There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.
Without tariffs and both import and export controls it will sell at
around the world price.
Post by Ash Burton
It is an opportunity for home producers to increase production but wiil
they? Pigs might fly!
Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more
milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an
existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male
calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other than
producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do with
Brexit.
I don't know where people have got these numbers from

for the past coupe of years 500g packs of Lurpak have been 3.25, last week
they were 3.50

in Lidl, their own brand, not equivalent (it contains three times as much
margarine and that shows in the inferior taste) used to 1.69 and is now 1.89
(I buy it to cook with, can't stand it on bread)

so that's an increase in price of 10%

tim
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.... (it contains three times as much
margarine
If whatever you're buying contains margarine, it's not butter, is it!
Obviously a blended spread of some kind, but not butter.

MM
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.
And the **** exchange rate after the referendum
Post by Ash Burton
There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.
Without tariffs and both import and export controls it will sell at around the world price.
Post by Ash Burton
It is an opportunity for home producers to increase production but wiil
they? Pigs might fly!
Bullocks - that's part of the problem.
To make more butter you need more milk. To make more milk you need more milking cows. To produce another milking cow you need to breed an existing on, bring its female calf to maturity, breed it, kill its male calf and then you can milk it - takes about two years.
Cows might breed, but they do so slowly and half their progeny are bullocks...
None of which justifies british made butter increasing in price other
than producers cashing in because they can but it has very little to do
with Brexit.
Why does the price rise need justification. The fall in the £ meant no EU producer was going to sell here for 10% less, and conversely UK producers could export for 11% more (and they did). So the price in the UK rose 10%+ just because of the Leave vote. Same for salmon, tea, coffee, cocoa, oranges, wine and a host of other commodities.
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.......... and half their progeny are bullocks...
...which I don't see why we can't rear them for veal. I really like a
tasty Wiener Schnitzel, and the genuine Austrian recipe always
specifies veal.

MM
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.......... and half their progeny are bullocks...
...which I don't see why we can't rear them for veal. I really like a
tasty Wiener Schnitzel, and the genuine Austrian recipe always
specifies veal.
MM
We do, but most are exported to France. When the BSE panic caused the French to refuse UK veal, tonnes of it ended up in the market at a pound a pound. We bought several racks, five shoulders, a couple of legs and numerous other cuts - lovely...
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.
There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.
What about the higher cost of red diesel for tractors and other farm
machinery, the higher charges for electricity, and the higher import
cost of cattle feed and other raw materials a dairy farmer needs
daily?

MM
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Post by MM
And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.
There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.
What about the higher cost of red diesel for tractors and other farm
machinery, the higher charges for electricity, and the higher import
cost of cattle feed and other raw materials a dairy farmer needs
daily?
MM
None of those commodities have gone up anywhere near 80%, the milk cows
round here eat grass and bed on locally grown straw.

Were being conned on this butter price increase and it has nothing to do
with Brexit.
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
Indeed it has, but it has also risen on the world markets by exactly the same
amount give or take a few percentage points for the currency shifts, the only
place it hasn't yet risen for the consumer is France but then they have a severe
butter shortage in the retail marketplace there.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41766352
Demand for butter and other milk based products is rising in China, and
production has fallen in the likes of New Zealand
https://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/sites/agriculture/files/market-observatory/milk/pdf/trade-main-competitors_en.pdf
Brexit really has SFA to do with it
No it is whatever the price hike world wide is PLUS 11% due to Brexit in the UK
Post by The Other Mike
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English butter has also gone up commesurately in price due to the world
increase.
There is no real justification for english produced butter increasing in
price at all.
What about the higher cost of red diesel for tractors and other farm
machinery, the higher charges for electricity, and the higher import
cost of cattle feed and other raw materials a dairy farmer needs
daily?
MM
None of those commodities have gone up anywhere near 80%, the milk cows
round here eat grass and bed on locally grown straw.
Were being conned on this butter price increase and it has nothing to do
with Brexit.
10% of the change has, more like 20% this time last year.
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-
that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-
few-that-are-cheaper/
1.LEGO prices up five per cent
2. Marmite up 12.5 per cent at Morrisons
3. Costly condiments, including Coleman's mustard and Hellman's
mayo 4. Christmas pudding up 21 per cent
5. Primary school lunch £20 more expensive
6. Price of bananas rise for first time in five years
7. Fish fingers to get stinkingly more expensive next year
8. Walkers crisps set for 10 per cent price hike
9. Typhoo Tea 50 per cent more
10. Maltesers packets are shrinking
11. Mind the gap: Toblerone changes to reduce weight
12. Average basket of goods goes up (by 2.7% to end 2017)
13. Turkeys up three per cent
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
15. Washing machine manufacturers increase prices
16. Comic book issues to go up from Jan (2017)
17. Car prices, including Vauxhall models, to go up
18. New Apple macbooks cost a staggering £2k
19. Dell and HP computers raise prices
20. Customers forking out more for holidays
21. Mr Kipling cakes could get more expensive
22. Drinkers to shell out 29p more for wine
23. Milk supplies under pressure
24. Olive oil prices sky-high
25. Holiday money means less bang for your buck abroad
And the items that are cheaper since Brexit...
Mince pies
Ryanair fares
Apart from the price rises due to Brexit, the economy is
struggling, with the worst growth rate in the EU, wages are
stagnating, except for the already-rich, and there's just been
the first interest rate rise in 10 years due to inflation having
reached 3%.
As Yellow might put it, "Good innit!"
MM
Gullible Brexiteers thought Australia and the USA were going to
help us out. No sign of that.
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
1.LEGO prices up five per cent
2. Marmite up 12.5 per cent at Morrisons
3. Costly condiments, including Coleman's mustard and Hellman's mayo
4. Christmas pudding up 21 per cent
5. Primary school lunch £20 more expensive
6. Price of bananas rise for first time in five years
7. Fish fingers to get stinkingly more expensive next year
8. Walkers crisps set for 10 per cent price hike
9. Typhoo Tea 50 per cent more
10. Maltesers packets are shrinking
11. Mind the gap: Toblerone changes to reduce weight
12. Average basket of goods goes up (by 2.7% to end 2017)
13. Turkeys up three per cent
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
15. Washing machine manufacturers increase prices
16. Comic book issues to go up from Jan (2017)
17. Car prices, including Vauxhall models, to go up
18. New Apple macbooks cost a staggering £2k
19. Dell and HP computers raise prices
20. Customers forking out more for holidays
21. Mr Kipling cakes could get more expensive
22. Drinkers to shell out 29p more for wine
23. Milk supplies under pressure
24. Olive oil prices sky-high
25. Holiday money means less bang for your buck abroad
And the items that are cheaper since Brexit...
Mince pies
Ryanair fares
Apart from the price rises due to Brexit, the economy is struggling,
with the worst growth rate in the EU, wages are stagnating, except for
the already-rich, and there's just been the first interest rate rise
in 10 years due to inflation having reached 3%.
As Yellow might put it, "Good innit!"
MM
And most of those price rises have absolutely nothing to do with Brexit,
only point 25 has any credibility.

E.G No.5 School luch price to increase by £20 ??? They don't cost £20 a
week or No.7 Fish fingers to get 'stinkingly'more expensive next year
(sic). Journalistic crap.

No mention of newspapers going up in price though (yet) wait for it.
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
1.LEGO prices up five per cent
2. Marmite up 12.5 per cent at Morrisons
3. Costly condiments, including Coleman's mustard and Hellman's mayo
4. Christmas pudding up 21 per cent
5. Primary school lunch £20 more expensive
6. Price of bananas rise for first time in five years
7. Fish fingers to get stinkingly more expensive next year
8. Walkers crisps set for 10 per cent price hike
9. Typhoo Tea 50 per cent more
10. Maltesers packets are shrinking
11. Mind the gap: Toblerone changes to reduce weight
12. Average basket of goods goes up (by 2.7% to end 2017)
13. Turkeys up three per cent
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
15. Washing machine manufacturers increase prices
16. Comic book issues to go up from Jan (2017)
17. Car prices, including Vauxhall models, to go up
18. New Apple macbooks cost a staggering £2k
19. Dell and HP computers raise prices
20. Customers forking out more for holidays
21. Mr Kipling cakes could get more expensive
22. Drinkers to shell out 29p more for wine
23. Milk supplies under pressure
24. Olive oil prices sky-high
25. Holiday money means less bang for your buck abroad
And the items that are cheaper since Brexit...
Mince pies
Ryanair fares
Apart from the price rises due to Brexit, the economy is struggling,
with the worst growth rate in the EU, wages are stagnating, except for
the already-rich, and there's just been the first interest rate rise
in 10 years due to inflation having reached 3%.
As Yellow might put it, "Good innit!"
MM
What a stupid posting,things are going up at the same rate all over the
world.
R. Mark Clayton
2017-11-07 10:21:04 UTC
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Post by MM
And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
1.LEGO prices up five per cent
2. Marmite up 12.5 per cent at Morrisons
3. Costly condiments, including Coleman's mustard and Hellman's mayo
4. Christmas pudding up 21 per cent
5. Primary school lunch £20 more expensive
6. Price of bananas rise for first time in five years
7. Fish fingers to get stinkingly more expensive next year
8. Walkers crisps set for 10 per cent price hike
9. Typhoo Tea 50 per cent more
10. Maltesers packets are shrinking
11. Mind the gap: Toblerone changes to reduce weight
12. Average basket of goods goes up (by 2.7% to end 2017)
13. Turkeys up three per cent
14. Butter soars by 80 per cent since Brexit
15. Washing machine manufacturers increase prices
16. Comic book issues to go up from Jan (2017)
17. Car prices, including Vauxhall models, to go up
18. New Apple macbooks cost a staggering £2k
19. Dell and HP computers raise prices
20. Customers forking out more for holidays
21. Mr Kipling cakes could get more expensive
22. Drinkers to shell out 29p more for wine
23. Milk supplies under pressure
24. Olive oil prices sky-high
25. Holiday money means less bang for your buck abroad
And the items that are cheaper since Brexit...
Mince pies
Ryanair fares
Apart from the price rises due to Brexit, the economy is struggling,
with the worst growth rate in the EU, wages are stagnating, except for
the already-rich, and there's just been the first interest rate rise
in 10 years due to inflation having reached 3%.
As Yellow might put it, "Good innit!"
MM
What a stupid posting,things are going up at the same rate all over the
world.
WRONG inflation in the UK is double that in rEU - do check facts.
Vidcapper
2017-11-07 07:58:21 UTC
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And it's the Sun wot's telling us!
And that was LAST year! This year it's even worse!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2388127/the-25-things-that-are-more-expensive-since-the-brexit-vote-and-the-few-that-are-cheaper/
5. Primary school lunch £20 more expensive
Then stop lunching at the Ritz. :p
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
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